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China’s Historic Rise to the Top of the Scientific Ladder

China’s takeover happened with remarkable speed. As recently as 2020, the United States led China by 53 percent in Nature Index publications (29,172 to 19,097). But China’s growth rate of 18 percent per year vastly outpaced America’s 2.3 percent annual growth. By 2023, the gap narrowed to just 7 percent. In 2024, China pulled decisively ahead — partly due to returnees who are now publishing in China.

To understand the magnitude of this shift, I looked across multiple databases that track scholarly output: Web of Science, Scopus, OpenAlex, and Nature Index. The results appear in Figure 1 below. China now produces nearly twice as much total scientific research output as the U.S., and has a 17 percent advantage in elite publications.

Grant cuts, arrests, lay-offs: Trump made 2025 a tumultuous year for science

How the Trump administration caused seismic disruptions to the world’s premier scientific superpower.

In just the first weeks of Donald Trump’s second presidency, his administration embarked on making radical changes to US science.

Officials appointed by the new president started firing thousands of researchers and other government employees. At the same time, it cut billions of dollars of US support for global-health programmes, including dismantling the US Agency for International Development (USAID). It arrested some scholars from outside the United States as it stepped up efforts to restrict entry into the country and limit political speech. Over the next few months, the US government took steps to exert unprecedented control over universities by withholding federal research funding. The administration cancelled tens of billions of dollars in research grants to universities to force the adoption of policies on hiring and admissions, policing of campuses, curricula and other factors.

AI Overview

As of November 2025, China is generally considered the number one nation in the world in terms of volume of science research output (such as the number of scientific publications and patents filed), while the United States often leads in measures of research quality, impact, and innovation in specific high-tech fields.

These above are the FACTS. No TDS opinions here!

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China’s Historic Rise to the Top of the Scientific Ladder

China’s takeover happened with remarkable speed. As recently as 2020, the United States led China by 53 percent in Nature Index publications (29,172 to 19,097). But China’s growth rate of 18 percent per year vastly outpaced America’s 2.3 percent annual growth. By 2023, the gap narrowed to just 7 percent. In 2024, China pulled decisively ahead — partly due to returnees who are now publishing in China.

To understand the magnitude of this shift, I looked across multiple databases that track scholarly output: Web of Science, Scopus, OpenAlex, and Nature Index. The results appear in Figure 1 below. China now produces nearly twice as much total scientific research output as the U.S., and has a 17 percent advantage in elite publications.

Grant cuts, arrests, lay-offs: Trump made 2025 a tumultuous year for science

How the Trump administration caused seismic disruptions to the world’s premier scientific superpower.

In just the first weeks of Donald Trump’s second presidency, his administration embarked on making radical changes to US science.

Officials appointed by the new president started firing thousands of researchers and other government employees. At the same time, it cut billions of dollars of US support for global-health programmes, including dismantling the US Agency for International Development (USAID). It arrested some scholars from outside the United States as it stepped up efforts to restrict entry into the country and limit political speech. Over the next few months, the US government took steps to exert unprecedented control over universities by withholding federal research funding. The administration cancelled tens of billions of dollars in research grants to universities to force the adoption of policies on hiring and admissions, policing of campuses, curricula and other factors.

AI Overview

As of November 2025, China is generally considered the number one nation in the world in terms of volume of science research output (such as the number of scientific publications and patents filed), while the United States often leads in measures of research quality, impact, and innovation in specific high-tech fields.

These above are the FACTS. No TDS opinions here!


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Remember what the left considers "science":

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China’s Historic Rise to the Top of the Scientific Ladder

China’s takeover happened with remarkable speed. As recently as 2020, the United States led China by 53 percent in Nature Index publications (29,172 to 19,097). But China’s growth rate of 18 percent per year vastly outpaced America’s 2.3 percent annual growth. By 2023, the gap narrowed to just 7 percent. In 2024, China pulled decisively ahead — partly due to returnees who are now publishing in China.

To understand the magnitude of this shift, I looked across multiple databases that track scholarly output: Web of Science, Scopus, OpenAlex, and Nature Index. The results appear in Figure 1 below. China now produces nearly twice as much total scientific research output as the U.S., and has a 17 percent advantage in elite publications.

Grant cuts, arrests, lay-offs: Trump made 2025 a tumultuous year for science

How the Trump administration caused seismic disruptions to the world’s premier scientific superpower.

In just the first weeks of Donald Trump’s second presidency, his administration embarked on making radical changes to US science.

Officials appointed by the new president started firing thousands of researchers and other government employees. At the same time, it cut billions of dollars of US support for global-health programmes, including dismantling the US Agency for International Development (USAID). It arrested some scholars from outside the United States as it stepped up efforts to restrict entry into the country and limit political speech. Over the next few months, the US government took steps to exert unprecedented control over universities by withholding federal research funding. The administration cancelled tens of billions of dollars in research grants to universities to force the adoption of policies on hiring and admissions, policing of campuses, curricula and other factors.

AI Overview

As of November 2025, China is generally considered the number one nation in the world in terms of volume of science research output (such as the number of scientific publications and patents filed), while the United States often leads in measures of research quality, impact, and innovation in specific high-tech fields.

These above are the FACTS. No TDS opinions here!

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Really worked out well over the Wuhan virus, didn't it?
 
So china will now lead the world in shrimp on a treadmill studies?

I doubt they'll be much interested in funding trans experiments on children. The CCP is not quite as ruthless as the DNC.
 
So china will now lead the world in shrimp on a treadmill studies?

I doubt they'll be much interested in funding trans experiments on children. The CCP is not quite as ruthless as the DNC.
Your comment demonstrates you’re part of the problem.

 

China’s Historic Rise to the Top of the Scientific Ladder

China’s takeover happened with remarkable speed. As recently as 2020, the United States led China by 53 percent in Nature Index publications (29,172 to 19,097). But China’s growth rate of 18 percent per year vastly outpaced America’s 2.3 percent annual growth. By 2023, the gap narrowed to just 7 percent. In 2024, China pulled decisively ahead — partly due to returnees who are now publishing in China.

To understand the magnitude of this shift, I looked across multiple databases that track scholarly output: Web of Science, Scopus, OpenAlex, and Nature Index. The results appear in Figure 1 below. China now produces nearly twice as much total scientific research output as the U.S., and has a 17 percent advantage in elite publications.

Grant cuts, arrests, lay-offs: Trump made 2025 a tumultuous year for science

How the Trump administration caused seismic disruptions to the world’s premier scientific superpower.

In just the first weeks of Donald Trump’s second presidency, his administration embarked on making radical changes to US science.

Officials appointed by the new president started firing thousands of researchers and other government employees. At the same time, it cut billions of dollars of US support for global-health programmes, including dismantling the US Agency for International Development (USAID). It arrested some scholars from outside the United States as it stepped up efforts to restrict entry into the country and limit political speech. Over the next few months, the US government took steps to exert unprecedented control over universities by withholding federal research funding. The administration cancelled tens of billions of dollars in research grants to universities to force the adoption of policies on hiring and admissions, policing of campuses, curricula and other factors.

AI Overview

As of November 2025, China is generally considered the number one nation in the world in terms of volume of science research output (such as the number of scientific publications and patents filed), while the United States often leads in measures of research quality, impact, and innovation in specific high-tech fields.

These above are the FACTS. No TDS opinions here!

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The Biden admin allowed the US to be flooded with CCP spies who infiltrated the nation’s universities.
 
Really worked out well over the Wuhan virus, didn't it?

How is that relevant to the 2025 facts presented in the OP?

address the current facts! Can you do that? or you just don't have an answer that fulfills your love for Trump under these facts?
 
How is that relevant to the 2025 facts presented in the OP?

address the current facts! Can you do that? or you just don't have an answer that fulfills your love for Trump under these facts?
Really worked out well over the Wuhan virus, didn't it?
 
The Biden admin allowed the US to be flooded with CCP spies who infiltrated the nation’s universities.
Whatever YOUR explanation is, the fact is that Trump has cut spending and support for the science community. Explain to me how that is going to help us to get back up to being #1 in science?

There is a good chance that the U.S. scientists that were FIRED by Trump will go to China, get better pay, and make China even stronger scientifically.

Is that an option you like?
 

China’s Historic Rise to the Top of the Scientific Ladder

China’s takeover happened with remarkable speed. As recently as 2020, the United States led China by 53 percent in Nature Index publications (29,172 to 19,097). But China’s growth rate of 18 percent per year vastly outpaced America’s 2.3 percent annual growth. By 2023, the gap narrowed to just 7 percent. In 2024, China pulled decisively ahead — partly due to returnees who are now publishing in China.

To understand the magnitude of this shift, I looked across multiple databases that track scholarly output: Web of Science, Scopus, OpenAlex, and Nature Index. The results appear in Figure 1 below. China now produces nearly twice as much total scientific research output as the U.S., and has a 17 percent advantage in elite publications.

Grant cuts, arrests, lay-offs: Trump made 2025 a tumultuous year for science

How the Trump administration caused seismic disruptions to the world’s premier scientific superpower.

In just the first weeks of Donald Trump’s second presidency, his administration embarked on making radical changes to US science.

Officials appointed by the new president started firing thousands of researchers and other government employees. At the same time, it cut billions of dollars of US support for global-health programmes, including dismantling the US Agency for International Development (USAID). It arrested some scholars from outside the United States as it stepped up efforts to restrict entry into the country and limit political speech. Over the next few months, the US government took steps to exert unprecedented control over universities by withholding federal research funding. The administration cancelled tens of billions of dollars in research grants to universities to force the adoption of policies on hiring and admissions, policing of campuses, curricula and other factors.

AI Overview

As of November 2025, China is generally considered the number one nation in the world in terms of volume of science research output (such as the number of scientific publications and patents filed), while the United States often leads in measures of research quality, impact, and innovation in specific high-tech fields.

These above are the FACTS. No TDS opinions here!

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Dotard is methodically trying to make the US an, in his words, shithole country.
 
How is that relevant to the 2025 facts presented in the OP?

address the current facts! Can you do that? or you just don't have an answer that fulfills your love for Trump under these facts?
It is near impossible to consider current facts without examing past behavior.

There is a reaon liars are not trusted.
 
Dotard is methodically trying to make the US an, in his words, shithole country.
Only for Marxists, socialists, and communists.

The rest of us enjoy the added freedom and law and order.
 

China’s Historic Rise to the Top of the Scientific Ladder

China’s takeover happened with remarkable speed. As recently as 2020, the United States led China by 53 percent in Nature Index publications (29,172 to 19,097). But China’s growth rate of 18 percent per year vastly outpaced America’s 2.3 percent annual growth. By 2023, the gap narrowed to just 7 percent. In 2024, China pulled decisively ahead — partly due to returnees who are now publishing in China.

To understand the magnitude of this shift, I looked across multiple databases that track scholarly output: Web of Science, Scopus, OpenAlex, and Nature Index. The results appear in Figure 1 below. China now produces nearly twice as much total scientific research output as the U.S., and has a 17 percent advantage in elite publications.

Grant cuts, arrests, lay-offs: Trump made 2025 a tumultuous year for science

How the Trump administration caused seismic disruptions to the world’s premier scientific superpower.

In just the first weeks of Donald Trump’s second presidency, his administration embarked on making radical changes to US science.

Officials appointed by the new president started firing thousands of researchers and other government employees. At the same time, it cut billions of dollars of US support for global-health programmes, including dismantling the US Agency for International Development (USAID). It arrested some scholars from outside the United States as it stepped up efforts to restrict entry into the country and limit political speech. Over the next few months, the US government took steps to exert unprecedented control over universities by withholding federal research funding. The administration cancelled tens of billions of dollars in research grants to universities to force the adoption of policies on hiring and admissions, policing of campuses, curricula and other factors.

AI Overview

As of November 2025, China is generally considered the number one nation in the world in terms of volume of science research output (such as the number of scientific publications and patents filed), while the United States often leads in measures of research quality, impact, and innovation in specific high-tech fields.

These above are the FACTS. No TDS opinions here!

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I encourage you to emigrate to China before Trump's cuts in science make us forget how airplanes work!
 
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It is near impossible to consider current facts without examing past behavior.

There is a reaon liars are not trusted.

You are 100% right

During and between his terms as President of the United States, Donald Trump has made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. Fact-checkers at The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his first presidential term, an average of 21 per day. Commentators and fact-checkers have described Trump's lying as unprecedented in American politics. Scholarly analysis of Trump's tweets found significant evidence of an intent to deceive
 
You are 100% right

During and between his terms as President of the United States, Donald Trump has made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. Fact-checkers at The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his first presidential term, an average of 21 per day. Commentators and fact-checkers have described Trump's lying as unprecedented in American politics. Scholarly analysis of Trump's tweets found significant evidence of an intent to deceive
Feel bad for you then. Not really though.
 
Dotard is methodically trying to make the US an, in his words, shithole country.
China has been number one in a number of areas for awhile. Many Americans don’t know this or refuse to admit it, or think they’ve stolen everything from us.
 
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