Dear
Chuz Life:
Can you prove when a person's soul, consciousness, or will is created?
When does THAT enter the body that is forming physically.
Can you prove if a person's soul or will consents or doesn't agree to be born?
What remains "faith based" is when does the soul or will of
the unborn baby or person ENTER into the physical.
If that part of the person is still detached from the body forming,
it is still possible to terminate the physical body or pregnancy
and not kill or harm the conscious will, soul, spirit or personality
if that part remains separate from the body.
Now if that part of the person is already JOINED to the physical body,
yes, this causes harm to forcibly and unnaturally terminate and kill that body and the life in it.
But at what point does this entrance or connection occur?
You can point to the physical life energy starting at conception.
But how can we prove when the person's will and consciousness
that makes them a sentient being ENTERS and CONNECTS with that body?
This is still faith based.
And that's why people don't agree on govt setting the policy for defining this.
And it's also why the laws are argued as discriminating against women
because after pregnancy occurs, this is going to affect women more
than men. Although men are equally responsible for the decision to
have sex and cause pregnancy, if not MORE responsible in cases of
rape, coercion, abuse or other nonconsensual sex and pregnancy.
Instead of arguing on faith based points
Chuz Life
why not focus on where women and men might agree:
why not focus on banning sex where one or both partners
don't consent to either pregnancy or abortion?
Ban the sex, make it a form of sexual abuse,
relationship abuse, or some degree of statutory rape.
So that way you stop it at the onset of when the
wrong decision was made in the first place, whether
by abuse or coercion etc. where BOTH the MEN and the women
are equally responsible for reporting "relationship abuse"
or "sexual abuse" and not enabling it. To the point of unwanted pregnancy or abortion.
Why not hold BOTH partners responsible,
where if complaints of abuse are reported,
BOTH partners are subject to counseling to
identify and resolve any conflicts or complaints.
So if there is criminal level violence, abuse, rape or
other misconduct going on, this can be identified and stopped.
Since this approach would also catch domestic/sexual abuse
upon first complaint or signs of problems, the women's
groups should support this instead of approaches that
target or punish women more than men, especially in
cases of coercion or abuse blamed on the men. Why not target that?
