Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered

[Shusha]

Your argument is built on the premise that there is an existing international border which demarcates Israel from Arab Palestine. There is not. The border is under dispute and has never been settled between the parties involved. Your premise is incorrect and your argument has no validity.

Unless you want to argue for the Oslo Accords in which case Israel builds only on land which, by mutual agreement, is under her control.

The internationally recognized borders are the pre-1967 lines. The Green Line. Israel seized territory during the '67 war. One of those territories is the West Bank. Israel has no sovereign title to that land. You cannot hold onto land seized in a war. Period. Saying you can, is the same as saying it was okay for Germany to annex Poland.

On the contrary the international recognition is and always has been that final borders will be negotiated in a final peace treaty. There is no cause in international law or recognition to claim that a border already exists and that therefore a particular piece of land is or is not part of "Palestine".

 

[Shusha]

Which is exactly why the Arab Palestinians should accept a deal. Because it will recognize their sovereignty over a specifically defined territory. A recognition which they do not have now.

 

[Billo_Really]

You just didn’t like the response to your pointless babbling.

More off topic troll-speak.

 

[Billo_Really]

The Jews homeland is Israel. The Jews ancient historical crap is in Israel, not Wisconsin.

The Palestinians are the direct descendants of the Israelites.

 

[Billo_Really]

On the contrary the international recognition is and always has been that final borders will be negotiated in a final peace treaty. There is no cause in international law or recognition to claim that a border already exists and that therefore a particular piece of land is or is not part of "Palestine".

UN Resolution 242 tells Israel to get off that land. International law also states, you cannot hold onto land seized in a war. There is nothing to negotiate. All Israel needs to do, is stop breaking the law.

If someone robs a bank, the cops don't negotiate with the robber, a deal that would allow him to keep part of the money.

Your position is absurd! And not a single country on the planet agrees with you.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Jews homeland is Israel. The Jews ancient historical crap is in Israel, not Wisconsin.

The Palestinians are the direct descendants of the Israelites.

Now we really know that you are off your rockers.

(Wait..... we knew that even before this latest post )

 

[Sixties Fan]

On the contrary the international recognition is and always has been that final borders will be negotiated in a final peace treaty. There is no cause in international law or recognition to claim that a border already exists and that therefore a particular piece of land is or is not part of "Palestine".

UN Resolution 242 tells Israel to get off that land. International law also states, you cannot hold onto land seized in a war. There is nothing to negotiate. All Israel needs to do, is stop breaking the law.

If someone robs a bank, the cops don't negotiate with the robber, a deal that would allow him to keep part of the money.

Your position is absurd! And not a single country on the planet agrees with you.

More from your dream world.

 

[Billo_Really]

Now we really know that you are off your rockers.

(Wait..... we knew that even before this latest post )

And there never was a diaspora.

How do you like that deal?

 

[Billo_Really]

More from your dream world.

Listen junior, if you're this vapid with the relevant facts, maybe you should withdraw from this discussion until you have done your homework and are aware of what is in 242 and the UN Charter?

 

[P F Tinmore]

On the contrary the international recognition is and always has been that final borders will be negotiated in a final peace treaty. There is no cause in international law or recognition to claim that a border already exists and that therefore a particular piece of land is or is not part of "Palestine".

UN Resolution 242 tells Israel to get off that land. International law also states, you cannot hold onto land seized in a war. There is nothing to negotiate. All Israel needs to do, is stop breaking the law.

If someone robs a bank, the cops don't negotiate with the robber, a deal that would allow him to keep part of the money.

Your position is absurd! And not a single country on the planet agrees with you.

Don't forget the land illegally taken by war in 1948.

 

[Hollie]

On the contrary the international recognition is and always has been that final borders will be negotiated in a final peace treaty. There is no cause in international law or recognition to claim that a border already exists and that therefore a particular piece of land is or is not part of "Palestine".

UN Resolution 242 tells Israel to get off that land. International law also states, you cannot hold onto land seized in a war. There is nothing to negotiate. All Israel needs to do, is stop breaking the law.

If someone robs a bank, the cops don't negotiate with the robber, a deal that would allow him to keep part of the money.

Your position is absurd! And not a single country on the planet agrees with you.

Don't forget the land illegally taken by war in 1948.

Don’t forget the land invaded by Arabs-Moslems who crossed the frontier and were driven back.

 

[P F Tinmore]

On the contrary the international recognition is and always has been that final borders will be negotiated in a final peace treaty. There is no cause in international law or recognition to claim that a border already exists and that therefore a particular piece of land is or is not part of "Palestine".

UN Resolution 242 tells Israel to get off that land. International law also states, you cannot hold onto land seized in a war. There is nothing to negotiate. All Israel needs to do, is stop breaking the law.

If someone robs a bank, the cops don't negotiate with the robber, a deal that would allow him to keep part of the money.

Your position is absurd! And not a single country on the planet agrees with you.

Don't forget the land illegally taken by war in 1948.

Don’t forget the land invaded by Arabs-Moslems who crossed the frontier and were driven back.

Irrelevant.

 

[Billo_Really]

Don't forget the land illegally taken by war in 1948.

You mean this land?

 

[Hollie]

On the contrary the international recognition is and always has been that final borders will be negotiated in a final peace treaty. There is no cause in international law or recognition to claim that a border already exists and that therefore a particular piece of land is or is not part of "Palestine".

UN Resolution 242 tells Israel to get off that land. International law also states, you cannot hold onto land seized in a war. There is nothing to negotiate. All Israel needs to do, is stop breaking the law.

If someone robs a bank, the cops don't negotiate with the robber, a deal that would allow him to keep part of the money.

Your position is absurd! And not a single country on the planet agrees with you.

Don't forget the land illegally taken by war in 1948.

Don’t forget the land invaded by Arabs-Moslems who crossed the frontier and were driven back.

Irrelevant.

No. It's an uncomfortable fact that you’re unable and unwilling to address because your Islamist agenda is on the defensive.

1948 was just the first time Arabs-Moslems attempted to further their goal of destroying Israel. Why don’t you lecture us with some Koran verses?

 

[P F Tinmore]

On the contrary the international recognition is and always has been that final borders will be negotiated in a final peace treaty. There is no cause in international law or recognition to claim that a border already exists and that therefore a particular piece of land is or is not part of "Palestine".

UN Resolution 242 tells Israel to get off that land. International law also states, you cannot hold onto land seized in a war. There is nothing to negotiate. All Israel needs to do, is stop breaking the law.

If someone robs a bank, the cops don't negotiate with the robber, a deal that would allow him to keep part of the money.

Your position is absurd! And not a single country on the planet agrees with you.

Don't forget the land illegally taken by war in 1948.

Don’t forget the land invaded by Arabs-Moslems who crossed the frontier and were driven back.

Irrelevant.

No. It's an uncomfortable fact that you’re unable and unwilling to address because your Islamist agenda is on the defensive.

1948 was just the first time Arabs-Moslems attempted to further their goal of destroying Israel. Why don’t you lecture us with some Koran verses?

What does that have to do with the land taken in 1948?

 

[Hollie]

UN Resolution 242 tells Israel to get off that land. International law also states, you cannot hold onto land seized in a war. There is nothing to negotiate. All Israel needs to do, is stop breaking the law.

If someone robs a bank, the cops don't negotiate with the robber, a deal that would allow him to keep part of the money.

Your position is absurd! And not a single country on the planet agrees with you.

Don't forget the land illegally taken by war in 1948.

Don’t forget the land invaded by Arabs-Moslems who crossed the frontier and were driven back.

Irrelevant.

No. It's an uncomfortable fact that you’re unable and unwilling to address because your Islamist agenda is on the defensive.

1948 was just the first time Arabs-Moslems attempted to further their goal of destroying Israel. Why don’t you lecture us with some Koran verses?

What does that have to do with the land taken in 1948?

Was land taken after the Arab-Islamist invasion?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Don't forget the land illegally taken by war in 1948.

Don’t forget the land invaded by Arabs-Moslems who crossed the frontier and were driven back.

Irrelevant.

No. It's an uncomfortable fact that you’re unable and unwilling to address because your Islamist agenda is on the defensive.

1948 was just the first time Arabs-Moslems attempted to further their goal of destroying Israel. Why don’t you lecture us with some Koran verses?

What does that have to do with the land taken in 1948?

Was land taken after the Arab-Islamist invasion?

Doesn't matter. None of those countries won or lost any land.

 

[Shusha]

On the contrary the international recognition is and always has been that final borders will be negotiated in a final peace treaty. There is no cause in international law or recognition to claim that a border already exists and that therefore a particular piece of land is or is not part of "Palestine".

UN Resolution 242 tells Israel to get off that land. International law also states, you cannot hold onto land seized in a war. There is nothing to negotiate. All Israel needs to do, is stop breaking the law.

If someone robs a bank, the cops don't negotiate with the robber, a deal that would allow him to keep part of the money.

Your position is absurd! And not a single country on the planet agrees with you.

Um. Have you read 242? Where does it delineate an international border between Israel and "Palestine?" (It doesn't).

What it discusses is the relationship between the states in the dispute. Those states were Israel, Jordan and Egypt. The dispute between those states has been resolved in its entirety.

The Arab Palestinians, seeking independence and sovereignty, were not a Party to that resolution in that time. (Though I certainly do not dispute their current claims).

On the contrary, every country in the world agrees with me that the border between Israel and a future Palestine is a matter to be solved only through negotiation. Hence the entire idea of a peace process.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Don’t forget the land invaded by Arabs-Moslems who crossed the frontier and were driven back.

Irrelevant.

No. It's an uncomfortable fact that you’re unable and unwilling to address because your Islamist agenda is on the defensive.

1948 was just the first time Arabs-Moslems attempted to further their goal of destroying Israel. Why don’t you lecture us with some Koran verses?

What does that have to do with the land taken in 1948?

Was land taken after the Arab-Islamist invasion?

Doesn't matter. None of those countries won or lost any land.

Neither Jordan, nor Egypt won any land in 1948?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Irrelevant.

No. It's an uncomfortable fact that you’re unable and unwilling to address because your Islamist agenda is on the defensive.

1948 was just the first time Arabs-Moslems attempted to further their goal of destroying Israel. Why don’t you lecture us with some Koran verses?

What does that have to do with the land taken in 1948?

Was land taken after the Arab-Islamist invasion?

Doesn't matter. None of those countries won or lost any land.

Neither Jordan, nor Egypt won any land in 1948?