Sanders Campaign Prepares For Run As An Independent

[Care4all]

remember, karl rove's PAC has been backing Bernie all through the primary against Hillary,

and Rove is the boy genius who got journalists like Armstrong Williams to promote the Bush agenda on no child left behind, and paid Armstrong and other journalists, without the public knowing while it was happening....

in other words, it would not be a surprise if many of these bloggers that appear to be for Bernie, are really Rove paid shills to cause problems with democrats or to instigate fake stories in to the mix....as part of his strategy to hurt hillary and democrats....

just a heads up...

 

[flacaltenn]

As usual -- the Greens are not gonna make it onto 50 ballots this year. It's a hell of a struggle for 3rd parties.

As of June 1st --- This is what they got and deadlines start closing in July..

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The thread belongs in Political Satire or Conspiracy Theories.

 

[oreo]

In a move sure to shake the Democrat party to it’s core Bernie Sanders’ campaign is not yet done fighting their revolution against the establishment.
A quiet burst of activity from the Sanders campaign seems to all but guarantee that Sanders will run as an independent this election cycle. All across the country Sanders’ core infrastructure of volunteers and paid staff are mobilizing to collect signatures and perform necessary paperwork to get him on the general election ballots in the states.

Officials highly placed within the Sanders campaign remain evasive and deny that the senator plans, at this time, to run as an independent. Bernie’s campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, has stated time and time again that they intend to go all the way to the convention and make the case that Sanders should be the Democratic nominee for the 2016 general election. But the Sanders campaign is actively engaging in activities, within the states, that have no other purpose besides putting Sanders in the position of being able to run as an independent candidate against Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

Read more here Sanders Campaign Prepares For Run As An Independent - Aldipest

IN COMPARISON:

2008 Primary. Obama won the primary by a mere 41,622 popular votes. Hillary Clinton graciously conceded the race and endorsed Barack Obama.
2008 Democratic Popular Vote | RealClearPolitics

2016 Primary. Hillary Clinton currently has a popular vote lead of 3,720,322 popular votes, which is going to grow on Tuesday when Washington D.C. votes, and when those provisional ballots are counted in California. She has more pledged delegates, more Super Delegates and has won more states, yet Sanders still won't concede this race or endorse her. Hillary Clinton is the CONFIRMED nominee of the party.
RealClearPolitics - 2016 Democratic Popular Vote

If Bernie Sanders were to run as an Independent at this time, he would be the most hated Senator in Washington D.C. Those that supported him, would turn their backs on him. He would probably even be censored in the Senate, and Democrats would most certainly launch an attack on his Senate seat in Vermont, possibly even trying to recall him if he isn't up for reelection this year. The DNC would attack without mercy, chew him up, & spit him out at every single opportunity.

It was Sanders decision, and his decision alone to change his party status to run on the Democrat ticket. At that time he agreed to all DNC rules and procedures, including the 714 Democrat Super Delegates. He also agreed to each and every state primary and caucus rules.

So there would be enormous consequences for Bernie Sanders to run as a 3rd party candidate at this time. Which is probably why he won't do it.

 

[The Great Goose]

wow, on the eve of the death of the GOP, suddenly maybe the death of the democrats.

great entertainment!

It's like Trump is Darth Vader, returning balance to the force.

 

[oreo]

wow, on the eve of the death of the GOP, suddenly maybe the death of the democrats.

great entertainment!

It's like Trump is Darth Vader, returning balance to the force.

Bernie Sanders isn't going to do it. The old fart has got an ego bigger than a bus, and just can't stand the thought of having to publicly admit that he got his ass kicked by a WOMAN.

 

[oreo]

remember, karl rove's PAC has been backing Bernie all through the primary against Hillary,

and Rove is the boy genius who got journalists like Armstrong Williams to promote the Bush agenda on no child left behind, and paid Armstrong and other journalists, without the public knowing while it was happening....

in other words, it would not be a surprise if many of these bloggers that appear to be for Bernie, are really Rove paid shills to cause problems with democrats or to instigate fake stories in to the mix....as part of his strategy to hurt hillary and democrats....

just a heads up...

I don't think Carl Rove will be voting for Donald Trump, I believe he would much prefer Hillary Clinton in the Oval Office. There are a lot of Republicans that are bailing on Trump, and I believe Carl Rove is one of them.

So I think these theories are all coming from Sanders Supporters.

 

[Two Thumbs]

bernie lacks the gnads to run indy.

it's just posturing to get a job in her admin, nothing more.


it would be nice to see 4 people running for Pres though

 

[oreo]

bernie lacks the gnads to run indy.

it's just posturing to get a job in her admin, nothing more.


it would be nice to see 4 people running for Pres though

If Bernie Sanders wanted to run as an Independent that's what he should have done from the start. He changed his party status to Democrat to get Democrat donations. Now that the Democrat nominee, Hillary Clinton has won--it's way too late for Bernie Sanders to go back to Independent, without pissing off the entire Democrat party, including those that voted for him.

A Sanders 3rd party could produce a Donald Trump Presidency, and I don't think the majority of Sanders voters would appreciate that. There's never been a 3rd party candidate that has ever won a National election, or even close to it, but they sure screw it up for the party they're most closely associated with. I think most people know that, if they don't they're dumber than dirt.

It's just the old fart doesn't want to concede to and or endorse a woman for POTUS. Hillary Clinton is not going to give him any concessions, she doesn't have to with a 4 million popular vote lead. Yes, that's probably what he is trying to do--but it ain't going to happen.

One thing for certain, it's going to be a very cold day in hell, before the Democrat party will ever allow someone to change their party status just to run on their ticket again.

 

[Two Thumbs]

bernie lacks the gnads to run indy.

it's just posturing to get a job in her admin, nothing more.


it would be nice to see 4 people running for Pres though

If Bernie Sanders wanted to run as an Independent that's what he should have done from the start. He changed his party status to Democrat to get Democrat donations. Now that the Democrat nominee, Hillary Clinton has won--it's way too late for Bernie Sanders to go back to Independent, without pissing off the entire Democrat party, including those that voted for him.

A Sanders 3rd party could produce a Donald Trump Presidency, and I don't think the majority of Sanders voters would appreciate that.

the rnc has plans to run an indy against him.

 

[oreo]

As usual -- the Greens are not gonna make it onto 50 ballots this year. It's a hell of a struggle for 3rd parties.

As of June 1st --- This is what they got and deadlines start closing in July..

There are many states that won't allow write in candidates.

 

[protectionist]

If Bernie Sanders wanted to run as an Independent that's what he should have done from the start. He changed his party status to Democrat to get Democrat donations. Now that the Democrat nominee, Hillary Clinton has won--it's way too late for Bernie Sanders to go back to Independent, without pissing off the entire Democrat party, including those that voted for him.

A Sanders 3rd party could produce a Donald Trump Presidency, and I don't think the majority of Sanders voters would appreciate that. There's never been a 3rd party candidate that has ever won a National election, or even close to it, but they sure screw it up for the party they're most closely associated with. I think most people know that, if they don't they're dumber than dirt.

It's just the old fart doesn't want to concede to and or endorse a woman for POTUS. Hillary Clinton is not going to give him any concessions, she doesn't have to with a 4 million popular vote lead. Yes, that's probably what he is trying to do--but it ain't going to happen.

One thing for certain, it's going to be a very cold day in hell, before the Democrat party will ever allow someone to change their party status just to run on their ticket again.

Why shouldn't the Sanders supporters appreciate the production of a Trump presidency ? All along, their big claim to an agenda has been eliminating big business lobbying & Wall St influence. Well, their guy Bernie has been taking 45% of his donations from exactly that entity, while it has donated near ZERO to Trump, who has been 95% self-financing.

By their own definitions of what they deem important, Trump ought to be their candidate far more so than Bernie. As for Hillary, forget it. She's up in the 70s% range, and deep in the pockets of big Wall St. banks and hedge fund companies. Also, Trump is more supportive of the American working class by opposing Mexico, China, et al countries' cheap labor attack on American workers, that has taken millions of jobs from them.

Trump also supports raising the minimum wage, protecting Social Security & Medicare, and taking care of veterans. I see Trump as maybe a better candidate for Bernie supporters, than maybe even Bernie himself.

 

[OKTexas]

In a move sure to shake the Democrat party to it’s core Bernie Sanders’ campaign is not yet done fighting their revolution against the establishment.
A quiet burst of activity from the Sanders campaign seems to all but guarantee that Sanders will run as an independent this election cycle. All across the country Sanders’ core infrastructure of volunteers and paid staff are mobilizing to collect signatures and perform necessary paperwork to get him on the general election ballots in the states.

Officials highly placed within the Sanders campaign remain evasive and deny that the senator plans, at this time, to run as an independent. Bernie’s campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, has stated time and time again that they intend to go all the way to the convention and make the case that Sanders should be the Democratic nominee for the 2016 general election. But the Sanders campaign is actively engaging in activities, within the states, that have no other purpose besides putting Sanders in the position of being able to run as an independent candidate against Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

Read more here Sanders Campaign Prepares For Run As An Independent - Aldipest

Great, I've got the checkbook open and ready, the day he announces as an independent.

 

[The Great Goose]

wow, on the eve of the death of the GOP, suddenly maybe the death of the democrats.

great entertainment!

It's like Trump is Darth Vader, returning balance to the force.

Bernie Sanders isn't going to do it. The old fart has got an ego bigger than a bus, and just can't stand the thought of having to publicly admit that he got his ass kicked by a WOMAN.

Bah

 

[The Great Goose]

wow, on the eve of the death of the GOP, suddenly maybe the death of the democrats.

great entertainment!

It's like Trump is Darth Vader, returning balance to the force.

Bernie Sanders isn't going to do it. The old fart has got an ego bigger than a bus, and just can't stand the thought of having to publicly admit that he got his ass kicked by a WOMAN.

give him a chance, you dinosaur.
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[BlackAsCoal]

I DO believe that the organization and support Bernie built will NOT go to waste. This is the birth of an American Socialist Party. What happens this election is not clear. But I'm CERTAIN that Bernie will endorse the venture and provide his donor lists and all polling and information..

For THIS election cycle -- it's too late to be a "third party". The only choice is to declare as Independent. Which is a much lower ballot access bar.. And that is still feasible up until somewhere in July..

What about the Green Party ? (running as their presidential candidate) Jill Stein said she would step down to the Vice Presidential candidate.

Wouldn't work.. Because USUALLY the Green Party never makes it onto all 50 state ballots. MAYBE they have this cycle. And if so --- That would work.. But I don't think Bernie wants a Socialist party with all the Green baggage. It's a bit weird in places. Ultimate situation is to ABSORB US Greens into an Amer. Socialist Party..

I'm a Green who voted for Stein last election and will do so again, but there is no real party organization .. barely even qualifies as a political party. The Green Party exists as a placebo for those of us who will not vote for democrats .. but it isn't much else.

In Georgia, we fought for and won a reduction of qualifying signatures to get candidates on the ballot, but impediments to ballot access exist all over the country as democrats and republicans pay millions of dollars to keep 3rd parties out of elections in any meaningful way.

Point being, any flirtation by Sanders with the Green Party ticket will go absolutely nowhere.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Bernie Sanders’ camp rules out a third-party run
Bernie Sanders camp: Sanders isn’t going to launch third party run

So much for that Trumpie wet dream.

 

[oreo]

If Bernie Sanders wanted to run as an Independent that's what he should have done from the start. He changed his party status to Democrat to get Democrat donations. Now that the Democrat nominee, Hillary Clinton has won--it's way too late for Bernie Sanders to go back to Independent, without pissing off the entire Democrat party, including those that voted for him.

A Sanders 3rd party could produce a Donald Trump Presidency, and I don't think the majority of Sanders voters would appreciate that. There's never been a 3rd party candidate that has ever won a National election, or even close to it, but they sure screw it up for the party they're most closely associated with. I think most people know that, if they don't they're dumber than dirt.

It's just the old fart doesn't want to concede to and or endorse a woman for POTUS. Hillary Clinton is not going to give him any concessions, she doesn't have to with a 4 million popular vote lead. Yes, that's probably what he is trying to do--but it ain't going to happen.

One thing for certain, it's going to be a very cold day in hell, before the Democrat party will ever allow someone to change their party status just to run on their ticket again.

Why shouldn't the Sanders supporters appreciate the production of a Trump presidency ? All along, their big claim to an agenda has been eliminating big business lobbying & Wall St influence. Well, their guy Bernie has been taking 45% of his donations from exactly that entity, while it has donated near ZERO to Trump, who has been 95% self-financing.

By their own definitions of what they deem important, Trump ought to be their candidate far more so than Bernie. As for Hillary, forget it. She's up in the 70s% range, and deep in the pockets of big Wall St. banks and hedge fund companies. Also, Trump is more supportive of the American working class by opposing Mexico, China, et al countries' cheap labor attack on American workers, that has taken millions of jobs from them.

Trump also supports raising the minimum wage, protecting Social Security & Medicare, and taking care of veterans. I see Trump as maybe a better candidate for Bernie supporters, than maybe even Bernie himself.

Donald Trump is Wall Street dumb ass. In fact in the 1990's he was accused many times of manipulating the stock market with big buys and sells. He is polar opposite of Bernie Sanders regarding Wall Street, taxing the rich etc. Why do you think in the last 40 years, he's the only candidate that has refused to release his income tax returns? And if you're too stupid to not know that then vote for him.

 

[flacaltenn]

I DO believe that the organization and support Bernie built will NOT go to waste. This is the birth of an American Socialist Party. What happens this election is not clear. But I'm CERTAIN that Bernie will endorse the venture and provide his donor lists and all polling and information..

For THIS election cycle -- it's too late to be a "third party". The only choice is to declare as Independent. Which is a much lower ballot access bar.. And that is still feasible up until somewhere in July..

What about the Green Party ? (running as their presidential candidate) Jill Stein said she would step down to the Vice Presidential candidate.

Wouldn't work.. Because USUALLY the Green Party never makes it onto all 50 state ballots. MAYBE they have this cycle. And if so --- That would work.. But I don't think Bernie wants a Socialist party with all the Green baggage. It's a bit weird in places. Ultimate situation is to ABSORB US Greens into an Amer. Socialist Party..

I'm a Green who voted for Stein last election and will do so again, but there is no real party organization .. barely even qualifies as a political party. The Green Party exists as a placebo for those of us who will not vote for democrats .. but it isn't much else.

In Georgia, we fought for and won a reduction of qualifying signatures to get candidates on the ballot, but impediments to ballot access exist all over the country as democrats and republicans pay millions of dollars to keep 3rd parties out of elections in any meaningful way.

Point being, any flirtation by Sanders with the Green Party ticket will go absolutely nowhere.

If a real ORGANIZED Socialist party gave a home to Greens --- there would be some accommodations. A coalition in the least. And the ardent Greens could still run State/Local candidates.

When I was active in Libertarian Party in Cali --- We worked with the national level Greens on ballot access. Still do. But you're right. They don't have the will or the organization to run that triathalon and get onto 50 state ballots.

It's the VISION of the Greens that keeps them from national status. It's not Socialist.. The idea of LOCAL economics and LOCAL control is far more tribal --- even Communal than Bernie's traditional liturgy..

 

[HenryBHough]

The only people who think Sanders will run as an independent are dip shit Trump tards

While I agree that Nutty Old Uncle Bernie may not authorize a candidacy I also believe that he would do nothing to stand in the way of others acting.....

I'd give greater cred, though, to Mrs. Rodham-Clinton/Lewinsky running at least a write-in campaign WHEN The Democrat Party throws her under the bus.