Safe and Effective: The Fauci Moving Target

[Mac1958]

Harris said it in one of the debates.

Then it should be easy for you to pull up an example.

 

[Crepitus]

It doesn't prevent you from getting covid or spreading covid. But continue to do as fauci tells you.

What's the percentage of unvaccinated vs vaccinated clogging up the hospitals right now?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Sure, yeah, got it.

 

[jknowgood]

What's the percentage of unvaccinated vs vaccinated clogging up the hospitals right now?

30 to 40% are vaccinated, Fauci got you again. Without the vaccine you have over a 99% survival rate.

 

[Crepitus]

30 to 40% are vaccinated, Fauci got you again. Without the vaccine you have over a 99% survival rate.

Well that's a straight up lie. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 5% are fully vaccinated. And that 5% are mostly 70 year olds from care homes with more than three co-morbidities.

These charts show that COVID-19 vaccines are doing their job

COVID-19 shots may not always prevent infections, but for now, they are keeping the vast majority of vaccinated people out of the hospital.

www.sciencenews.org

 

[jknowgood]

Well that's a straight up lie. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 5% are fully vaccinated. And that 5% are mostly 70 year olds from care homes with more than three co-morbidities.

These charts show that COVID-19 vaccines are doing their job

COVID-19 shots may not always prevent infections, but for now, they are keeping the vast majority of vaccinated people out of the hospital.

www.sciencenews.org

You haven't heard, the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting covid, or cnn is still telling you it does?

 

[Crepitus]

You haven't heard, the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting covid, or cnn is still telling you it does?

Your desperate deflection is noted.

Did you even read my post?

 

[jknowgood]

Your desperate deflection is noted.

Did you even read my post?

The vaccine doesn't work. It does absolutely nothing for the wu version. Fauci loves the power he has over you.

 

[Crepitus]

The vaccine doesn't work. It does absolutely nothing for the wu version. Fauci loves the power he has over you.

Straight up lies.

You're hopeless, we're done here.

Have a nice day.

 

[JohnDB]

The answer for when this global pandemic will be over is not exactly what anyone really wants to hear.

When the Government Authorities tell you that the future sucks... people lose hope. It's one of the first rules about public speaking and giving bad news...give people hope.

Currently there isn't any good news.

This is going to be a long and protracted affair...new variants that bypass vaccinations and treatments...

 

[jknowgood]

Straight up lies.

You're hopeless, we're done here.

Have a nice day.

You too, don't forget to check in with Fauci to see how to live your life today!

 

[TNHarley]

Fauci is a fucking joke. It amazes me how people still listen to him.
I cant recall ONE FUCKING THING he has said that ended up being correct.

 

[colfax_m]

"If and when the vaccine comes, it’s not likely to go through all the tests that need to be done, and the trials that are needed to be done." Aug. 6, 2020

"Look at what’s happened. Enormous pressure put on the CDC not to put out the detailed guidelines. The enormous pressure being put on the FDA to say they’re going, that the following protocol will in fact reduce, it will have a giant impact on COVID. All these things turn out not to be true, and when a president continues to mislead and lie, when we finally do, God willing, get a vaccine, who’s going to take the shot? Who’s going to take the shot? You going to be the first one to say, ‘Put me — sign me up, they now say it’s OK’? I’m not being facetious." Sept. 2, 2020


"How are you going to distribute the vaccine when it arrives, when it arrives, when it’s there? And the question of whether it’s real, when it’s there, that requires enormous transparency. You’ve got to make all of it available to other experts across the nation, so they can look and see, so there’s consensus this is a safe vaccine. Because already you have, what percent is American people saying if the vaccine were there tomorrow, they wouldn’t take it? And it’s not the usual anti-vaccine crowd. It’s beyond that because people are losing faith in what the president says. Think about it." July 28, 2020

"Charting a clear path of science-based vaccines, free from politics. I get asked the question: ‘If the president announced tomorrow we have a vaccine, would you take it?’ Only if it was completely transparent, that other experts in the country could look at it, only if we knew all of what went into it. Because so far, nothing he’s told us has been true." Sept. 7, 2020

"Americans have had to endure President Trump’s incompetence and dishonesty, when it comes to testing and personal protective equipment. We can’t afford to repeat those fiascos when it comes to a vaccine. … Let me be clear: I trust vaccines, I trust scientists, but I don’t trust Donald Trump, and at this moment, the American people can’t either. Last week, Senator Harris and I laid out three questions this administration’s going to have to answer to assure the American people that politics will not play a role whatsoever in the vaccine process. If Donald Trump can’t give answers and the administration can’t give answers to these three questions, the American people should not have confidence." following week

“If public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it, absolutely,” she said. “But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I’m not taking it.”

He's criticizing Trump, not the vaccine.

 

[colfax_m]

Fauci is a fucking joke. It amazes me how people still listen to him.
I cant recall ONE FUCKING THING he has said that ended up being correct.

Fauci has consistently and accurately described the understanding of COVID.
What we understand about COVID changes as time goes on.

Making a guess that turns out to be correct is useless.

 

[colfax_m]

and there is not 1 today....

You guys really don't understand what you're talking about.

 

[Rawley]

Go ahead and provide examples. I'll look at them.

I did.

 

[TNHarley]

Making a guess that turns out to be correct is useless.

I would think setting policy on guesses that turned out to be correct would be better than being wrong every goddamn time.
But what do i know?

 

[colfax_m]

I would think setting policy on guesses that turned out to be correct would be better than being wrong every goddamn time.
But what do i know?

Problem is you never know which guess is correct and since the guesses are all over the map, it’s useless. You have a hindsight bias.

 

[Rawley]

He's criticizing Trump, not the vaccine.

He's criticising the process. He's explicitly telling people not to trust any vaccine developed during the Trump administration. Same thing with Cuomo. Same thing with Newsom. They were sowing skepticism of the process. For months, day after day. People were listening. which led directly to the vaccine hesitancy today.

Funny thing is that we now have FDA officials resigning because of the political pressure being put on the booster shot approval.by Biden.

Opinion | Why the FDA is floundering

The news comes on the heels of several confusing weeks of messaging from public health officials which might have fueled the pending departures.

www.msnbc.com

 

[TNHarley]

Problem is you never know which guess is correct and since the guesses are all over the map, it’s useless. You have a hindsight bias.

He has been wrong about everything. That isnt "hindsight bias" that is having standards. Something you should try instead of kissing failures ass all day.