S.C. school brat told friends before cop encounter: "Get yall phones out". She did it purposely.

[Asclepias]

Girl arrested during Spring Valley incident says she told classmates to film

Some people can't see a ******* setup coming. This *****....before the cop even spoke to her....told her friends "Get yall phones out because something is about to happen".

SHE PLANNED IT. She knew damn well that she was going to resist and become a ghetto YouTube superstar. She knew NOTHING the cop did was she going to cooperate with.

She knew "something is gonna happen" because she was determined to MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN. Had she followed directions....NOTHING would happen.

Do we call this "premeditated oppression"?? Planning your own victimhood!!!

Doesn't matter. Officer has to follow procedure regardless. Once he's in the classroom he has to do his job regardless of circumstances. Can't turn around and leave unless the kid capitulated. If it's a setup that's that. Still has to act as though it's 'live' and do what he'd do any other time.

He could have simply dragged her and desk out of the class. Instead he wanted to prove how brave he was by attacking a teenage girl. I'm surprised he didnt do a chimp roll to establish dominance before attacking her like the other feral chimp cop in Texas did.

***** got off light. Coulda peppered her, tased her.

The feral chimp could have dragged the desk into the hallway. He got didnt get off light. He got fired.

Its why cops don't give a rats ass what happens in the ghettos. You go out to help then the crowd turns on you for being too rough on the murderers and drug dealers. I wouldn't even show up to a black 911 call if I were a cop.

When the community as a whole has a bad attitude, it lowers the bar.

Do you think that girl will be a good employee one day? I don't.

No one cares if they are rough with murderers and drug dealers. The problem is that they are not rough enough with them because they make money on the side keeping them on the street. They arrest and harass innocent Black people and thats why the Black community doesnt trust or support them. I guess thats why you arent a cop. You are lazy and wouldnt do your job.

When the PD as a whole has a bad attitude and is corrupt it destroys any trust the community has in it.

Doesnt really matter what you think. I hope to hell she is never a good employee. I know she will take the money she won in the lawsuit and become a business owner and hire you as an employee. Will you act right?

 

[irosie91]

The cop is a victim of POLITICS. I wish him well-----the girl is a victim of
bad parenting----I wish her well. The matter was mishandled ----sit back
and watch for KOPY KAT episodes

The girls mother recently passed away, and the girl placed in a foster care.

She may be suffering from PTSD or just overwhelmed by stressors....an adolescent like her needs a counselor a student service staff to have a relationship with her...that person could have been called to settle the situation with no violence.

right there and then-------like there are counselors packed into the hall lockers
for JOHNNY ON THE SPOT---consultations...... that would be nice

I have worked in school system and yes that is exactly correct...adolescence is a difficult stage of life...the Germans call it "storm and stress"...... a period of Sturm und Drang," --storm and stress." so good practice in education and child well being calls for that...our children are worth it ........... you know we tell kids "violence is not the answer" then this adult comes in and teaches "violence is the answer"

There was a student-----16 year old girl-----sitting in a classroom----with a cell phone---in a school with a "turn off the cell phone when in class" policy. Her
cell phone was squeaking and squawking------the teacher said----turn it off or leave
the room. The 16 year old girl REFUSED. (I did my best ---ie to the best of
my knowledge---to recreate the scenario) The cop comes in and she continues to refuse. Cop tyrone will now solve the problem so that lessons can resume

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

It would've been better if the Officer Roid Testicles came in and said "Whats the problem?"

But that would take more effort for Officer Rage to think about it. Bye bye loser.

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the very first thing he did he removed her stuff from the desk...in Military parlance "shaping the battlefield"...that means he came for a battle... and he delivered....

 

[irosie91]

It would've been better if the Officer Roid Testicles came in and said "Whats the problem?"

But that would take more effort for Officer Rage to think about it. Bye bye loser.

.

the very first thing he did he removed her stuff from the desk...in Military parlance "shaping the battlefield"...that means he came for a battle... and he delivered....

Did he speak to her while "clearing the battle field" ? Did he have any information about her before the event in question? What "stuff"?

 

[Asclepias]

It would've been better if the Officer Roid Testicles came in and said "Whats the problem?"

But that would take more effort for Officer Rage to think about it. Bye bye loser.

.

the very first thing he did he removed her stuff from the desk...in Military parlance "shaping the battlefield"...that means he came for a battle... and he delivered....

Did he speak to her while "clearing the battle field" ? Did he have any information about her before the event in question? What "stuff"?

Why does that matter at all? He chimped out and lost his job. There was no excuse for his actions.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

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There was a student-----16 year old girl-----sitting in a classroom----with a cell phone---in a school with a "turn off the cell phone when in class" policy. Her
cell phone was squeaking and squawking------the teacher said----turn it off or leave
the room. The 16 year old girl REFUSED. (I did my best ---ie to the best of
my knowledge---to recreate the scenario) The cop comes in and she continues to refuse. Cop tyrone will now solve the problem so that lessons can resume

That is not what happened and its on record through interviews with other students there...she pulled the phone out ..she was seen asked for the phone she refused to give it up...
I was part of the clinical staff in a school for children who could not attend normal schools because of their behavioral problems . These were not like that student....some were assault prone with staff... I saw a 9 year old pick up a heavy lock and throw it at the school secretary... I was the respond-er to behavioral problems ... If its a given that I would have had a counseling relationship with that child I certainly have confidence I would have walked out with her.....no violence... I was not allowed to be violent in that program by the way ...even if a child threw a punch at me all I could do was place them in holds not fight back as such...
I was good at my job "no brag just fact"

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

It would've been better if the Officer Roid Testicles came in and said "Whats the problem?"

But that would take more effort for Officer Rage to think about it. Bye bye loser.

.

the very first thing he did he removed her stuff from the desk...in Military parlance "shaping the battlefield"...that means he came for a battle... and he delivered....

Did he speak to her while "clearing the battle field" ? Did he have any information about her before the event in question? What "stuff"?

Her stuff, her school computer that was on top of her desk and the child behind her also who can be seen

 

[Asclepias]

It would've been better if the Officer Roid Testicles came in and said "Whats the problem?"

But that would take more effort for Officer Rage to think about it. Bye bye loser.

.

the very first thing he did he removed her stuff from the desk...in Military parlance "shaping the battlefield"...that means he came for a battle... and he delivered....

Did he speak to her while "clearing the battle field" ? Did he have any information about her before the event in question? What "stuff"?

Her stuff, her school computer that was on top of her desk and the child behind her also who can be seen

Rosie is just trying to find anything to deflect from the point. Unless she had a gun and was holding the class hostage the feral chimp cop had no excuse for his behavior. Thats why he got his ass fired.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

a 300 lb weight lifter does not have to visit that stuff on what is I repeat a minor child ...and by happenstance a recent orphan....

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

He was supposed to treat her like any other citizen that is about to be arrested. Inform the person they are about to be arrested and charged with a specific crime(s) and that failure to comply with instructions will result in further and more serious charges that will cause incarceration.

what was she supposed to be arrested for? not going to the principal's office?

does that even begin to sound normal to you?

Protocol and procedure would have required the officer to transition the situation from an administrative situation to a legal one. The officer should have let the student know the situation was now being turned into a demand that she leave the room or face a formal charge of trespassing, not a breaking of a school rule. Added to that would be his informing the student that failure to comply with his instructions would lead to even more serious charges that would result in her incarceration at a juvenile facility. Until that procedure is followed the officer is only presenting himself as muscle for the principal.

i can't respond as i'm not sure what protocol was. it isn't my expertise. what i can say is that teachers i know are appalled by what happened. they say criminalizing the student's behavior was a breach of the student/teacher relationship; that clearly the girl has issues that need attention; and police were not necessary to intervene at all as the girl was not violent.

How odd then, that Deputy Fields has wide support from the school's teachers, administrators, and even students. Maybe you just hear what you want to.

given that he was fired, I think you're overstating a "tad".

One person made that decision, duncecap.

 

[Asclepias]

what was she supposed to be arrested for? not going to the principal's office?

does that even begin to sound normal to you?

Protocol and procedure would have required the officer to transition the situation from an administrative situation to a legal one. The officer should have let the student know the situation was now being turned into a demand that she leave the room or face a formal charge of trespassing, not a breaking of a school rule. Added to that would be his informing the student that failure to comply with his instructions would lead to even more serious charges that would result in her incarceration at a juvenile facility. Until that procedure is followed the officer is only presenting himself as muscle for the principal.

i can't respond as i'm not sure what protocol was. it isn't my expertise. what i can say is that teachers i know are appalled by what happened. they say criminalizing the student's behavior was a breach of the student/teacher relationship; that clearly the girl has issues that need attention; and police were not necessary to intervene at all as the girl was not violent.

How odd then, that Deputy Fields has wide support from the school's teachers, administrators, and even students. Maybe you just hear what you want to.

given that he was fired, I think you're overstating a "tad".

One person made that decision, duncecap.

That one person was his boss. Just accept the fact he is no longer legally able to chimp out.

 

[Conservative65]

Did she have a right to refuse the rightful order of a police officer? Seems many on here believe she did.

All of us have a right to question what appears to us to be an unlawful order from a police officer. That is why a specific protocol and procedure is used when making an arrest. Failure to follow those procedures and protocol and specified in numerous SCOTUS rulings can, and do leading to invalidating an arrest.

There is no evidence of your claim they didn't inform her. You're saying they didn't do something you can't prove they didn't do.

You are claiming the student disregarded Officer Slam and is thus, guilty of a crime. In America even racist people like you have to live with a simple American constitutional right that demands a person, even a black teenager, is innocent until proven guilty. She nor anyone else has to prove her innocence, you and the other racist attacking her have to prove her guilt. So far no legal authority is even attempting to make the claims you are attempting to make.

If she gets off this time we will just wait for her to commit another crime down the road just like we did with OJ and just like we will do with George Zimmerman when he eventually snaps again.

There is a major difference. OJ and Zimmerman were adults and the student in question is still a youth and at the age where she can be helped and taught. You are comparing grown adult men to a teenage girls, and what appears to be an immature and confused one. With adults we take an attitude that they need to be punished or removed from society for safety. That doesn't always happen, but we rarely take that position with children, even teenage ones. Our position with kids is that they need education and rehab and professional help before the reach the age of adulthood. The racist jerks commenting here don't want that kind of treatment given to the the teenage girl who happens to be a black child.

Wasn't she 18?? If she was 10...hell yes it would be 100% wrong.

It would be wrong at 10, 16, or 18. Idiot.

At 18, she's an ADULT.

 

[Conservative65]

Protocol and procedure would have required the officer to transition the situation from an administrative situation to a legal one. The officer should have let the student know the situation was now being turned into a demand that she leave the room or face a formal charge of trespassing, not a breaking of a school rule. Added to that would be his informing the student that failure to comply with his instructions would lead to even more serious charges that would result in her incarceration at a juvenile facility. Until that procedure is followed the officer is only presenting himself as muscle for the principal.

i can't respond as i'm not sure what protocol was. it isn't my expertise. what i can say is that teachers i know are appalled by what happened. they say criminalizing the student's behavior was a breach of the student/teacher relationship; that clearly the girl has issues that need attention; and police were not necessary to intervene at all as the girl was not violent.

How odd then, that Deputy Fields has wide support from the school's teachers, administrators, and even students. Maybe you just hear what you want to.

given that he was fired, I think you're overstating a "tad".

One person made that decision, duncecap.

That one person was his boss. Just accept the fact he is no longer legally able to chimp out.

Accept that fact that from the day you were born to the day you die, you'll be a monkey.

 

[Conservative65]

Did she have a right to refuse the rightful order of a police officer? Seems many on here believe she did.

All of us have a right to question what appears to us to be an unlawful order from a police officer. That is why a specific protocol and procedure is used when making an arrest. Failure to follow those procedures and protocol and specified in numerous SCOTUS rulings can, and do leading to invalidating an arrest.

There is no evidence of your claim they didn't inform her. You're saying they didn't do something you can't prove they didn't do.

You are claiming the student disregarded Officer Slam and is thus, guilty of a crime. In America even racist people like you have to live with a simple American constitutional right that demands a person, even a black teenager, is innocent until proven guilty. She nor anyone else has to prove her innocence, you and the other racist attacking her have to prove her guilt. So far no legal authority is even attempting to make the claims you are attempting to make.

If she gets off this time we will just wait for her to commit another crime down the road just like we did with OJ and just like we will do with George Zimmerman when he eventually snaps again.

There is a major difference. OJ and Zimmerman were adults and the student in question is still a youth and at the age where she can be helped and taught. You are comparing grown adult men to a teenage girls, and what appears to be an immature and confused one. With adults we take an attitude that they need to be punished or removed from society for safety. That doesn't always happen, but we rarely take that position with children, even teenage ones. Our position with kids is that they need education and rehab and professional help before the reach the age of adulthood. The racist jerks commenting here don't want that kind of treatment given to the the teenage girl who happens to be a black child.

They all need to learn respect. I wonder how many of the kids in that class would have disrespected that cop and how many would not. When I was a kid, I would have done what the cop asked. For fear of him and my parents.

The girl had just lost her mother and was placed in a foster home. You don't know how you would have acted under those circumstances.

So that justifies the student refusing to follow school policy and break the law?

Actually many people do know how they would have acted under those circumstances. Plenty have dealt with far worse and didn't do anywhere near what you justify her doing.

 

[Conservative65]

The SUPREME COURT has ruled that taking video of police is a constitutional right. The girl had a constitutional right to tell other students to video Officer Slam and to video him herself.

Did she have a right to refuse the rightful order of a police officer? Seems many on here believe she did.

All of us have a right to question what appears to us to be an unlawful order from a police officer. That is why a specific protocol and procedure is used when making an arrest. Failure to follow those procedures and protocol and specified in numerous SCOTUS rulings can, and do leading to invalidating an arrest.

There is no evidence or even claim that the officer was there to make an arrest. The decision to charge the students with a crime was made after the incident. The evidence to this is the video and again, the fact that the claim of a warning of an arrest was not claimed.

There is no evidence of your claim they didn't inform her. You're saying they didn't do something you can't prove they didn't do.

You are claiming the student disregarded Officer Slam and is thus, guilty of a crime. In America even racist people like you have to live with a simple American constitutional right that demands a person, even a black teenager, is innocent until proven guilty. She nor anyone else has to prove her innocence, you and the other racist attacking her have to prove her guilt. So far no legal authority is even attempting to make the claims you are attempting to make.

If she gets off this time we will just wait for her to commit another crime down the road just like we did with OJ and just like we will do with George Zimmerman when he eventually snaps again.

There is a major difference. OJ and Zimmerman were adults and the student in question is still a youth and at the age where she can be helped and taught. You are comparing grown adult men to a teenage girls, and what appears to be an immature and confused one. With adults we take an attitude that they need to be punished or removed from society for safety. That doesn't always happen, but we rarely take that position with children, even teenage ones. Our position with kids is that they need education and rehab and professional help before the reach the age of adulthood. The racist jerks commenting here don't want that kind of treatment given to the the teenage girl who happens to be a black child.

They all need to learn respect. I wonder how many of the kids in that class would have disrespected that cop and how many would not. When I was a kid, I would have done what the cop asked. For fear of him and my parents.

Same here. My dad stated in no uncertain terms what he would do if I disrespected the family name and did anything close to what this girl did by not following policy and willfully breaking the law. While I don't know whether he would have actually done it, I do know that I was smart enough not to give him the chance to prove it.

 

[Conservative65]

No, they act like that girl did.

No. No they don't. The girl was not violent. The girl was a victim of a rogue cop with a massive chip on his shoulder. A cop who failed in his duty and his behavior.

Can it be that there are just lousy cops? Can it be that cops use their power in an abusive manner? Can cops be wrong? Or is it just easier to blame the victims of police brutality? Is that an easier rationalization for you to make?

When she started resisting and trying to punch...she brought the toss on herself.

In the video I watched, it looks as if she punched the cop's hand with her throat.

Are cops in school supposed to meet out beatings in the guise of discipline?

Right hand. She punched his upper chest trying to hit his face.

Who got beaten?? I never saw him strike her. In fact....she was completely uninjured....UNTIL 2 days later when the NAACP got her a lawyer and told her "Yo...you need to be hurt."

Thats what happens when someone attempts to put you in a choke hold. You defend yourself. Looks like the teenage girl was braver than the feral chimp that lost his job for being a chimp about the situation.

Looks like the feral chimp got what she deserved.

 

[Conservative65]

The "planning" is nothing but another lie from the worthless lying scum on the Right.

The SUPREME COURT has ruled that taking video of police is a constitutional right. The girl had a constitutional right to tell other students to video Officer Slam and to video him herself.

Did she have a right to refuse the rightful order of a police officer? Seems many on here believe she did.

All of us have a right to question what appears to us to be an unlawful order from a police officer. That is why a specific protocol and procedure is used when making an arrest. Failure to follow those procedures and protocol and specified in numerous SCOTUS rulings can, and do leading to invalidating an arrest.

Actually, there is . It doesn't matter what she thought. I matters what he was there to do and that was to arrest her under SC Code of Laws 17-16-420. It's called disturbing school.

You say there is no evidence to indicate she was being arrested but you've determined she wasn't informed of the situation transitioning. The sad thing is that you make that claim, get this, without evidence.

There is no evidence or even claim that the officer was there to make an arrest. The decision to charge the students with a crime was made after the incident. The evidence to this is the video and again, the fact that the claim of a warning of an arrest was not claimed.

There is no evidence of your claim they didn't inform her. You're saying they didn't do something you can't prove they didn't do.

You are claiming the student disregarded Officer Slam and is thus, guilty of a crime. In America even racist people like you have to live with a simple American constitutional right that demands a person, even a black teenager, is innocent until proven guilty. She nor anyone else has to prove her innocence, you and the other racist attacking her have to prove her guilt. So far no legal authority is even attempting to make the claims you are attempting to make.

If she gets off this time we will just wait for her to commit another crime down the road just like we did with OJ and just like we will do with George Zimmerman when he eventually snaps again.

There is a major difference. OJ and Zimmerman were adults and the student in question is still a youth and at the age where she can be helped and taught. You are comparing grown adult men to a teenage girls, and what appears to be an immature and confused one. With adults we take an attitude that they need to be punished or removed from society for safety. That doesn't always happen, but we rarely take that position with children, even teenage ones. Our position with kids is that they need education and rehab and professional help before the reach the age of adulthood. The racist jerks commenting here don't want that kind of treatment given to the the teenage girl who happens to be a black child.

Hate to break it to you but even at her age, unless it's already been taught, it's not going to happen.

What they need, and what I want, is a parent(s) to raise them to do what they're told, when they're told, by someone having the authority to tell them. Whether or not they agree or like what they're told to do is irrelevant.

I could care less her color. I'm concerned with the justification too many on here are giving for what she did because her personal situation wasn't going well at then time.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Don't give me any lip kid or I will taser you pre school or not...

 

[Conservative65]

She was a witness to the little ***** planning on defying the law.

The "planning" is nothing but another lie from the worthless lying scum on the Right.

The SUPREME COURT has ruled that taking video of police is a constitutional right. The girl had a constitutional right to tell other students to video Officer Slam and to video him herself.

Did she have a right to refuse the rightful order of a police officer? Seems many on here believe she did.

All of us have a right to question what appears to us to be an unlawful order from a police officer. That is why a specific protocol and procedure is used when making an arrest. Failure to follow those procedures and protocol and specified in numerous SCOTUS rulings can, and do leading to invalidating an arrest.

There is no evidence to indicate Officer Slam was there to make an arrest or that the student knew she was being arrested. In her mind Officer Slam was just doing the bidding of the teacher and administrator. Neither the administrator nor Officer Slam informed her that the situation was transitioning from an administrative to a legal situation.

Actually, there is . It doesn't matter what she thought. I matters what he was there to do and that was to arrest her under SC Code of Laws 17-16-420. It's called disturbing school.

You say there is no evidence to indicate she was being arrested but you've determined she wasn't informed of the situation transitioning. The sad thing is that you make that claim, get this, without evidence.

There is no evidence or even claim that the officer was there to make an arrest. The decision to charge the students with a crime was made after the incident. The evidence to this is the video and again, the fact that the claim of a warning of an arrest was not claimed.

There is no evidence of your claim they didn't inform her. You're saying they didn't do something you can't prove they didn't do.

You are claiming the student disregarded Officer Slam and is thus, guilty of a crime. In America even racist people like you have to live with a simple American constitutional right that demands a person, even a black teenager, is innocent until proven guilty. She nor anyone else has to prove her innocence, you and the other racist attacking her have to prove her guilt. So far no legal authority is even attempting to make the claims you are attempting to make.

If she gets off this time we will just wait for her to commit another crime down the road just like we did with OJ and just like we will do with George Zimmerman when he eventually snaps again.

The most that will happen to her is suspension. That's nothing to someone who doesn't want to be there in the first place.

 

[Conservative65]

You know this how?

Because I am not a ******* moron like you.

So you don't know. You sound like a ******* moron guessing what the DA will or will not do.

As opposed to sounding like a moron for pushing a narrative about the wrong girl , an imaginary wrongful termination settlement or the idea that the sheriff somehow folded to political pressure.
If we're comparing, Paddy has far more credibility.

Is this sheriff not capable of conducting and investigation? He immediately called for the feds.

He explained that in his statements. His was only an investigation into violation of departmental policy. He turned the rest over to the feds so they would be impartial in investigating further. Smart move if you ask me. The department handled their employee and the feds handle the rest.

Nothing but pandering because the girl is black.