Hutch Starskey
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Sometimes children need to be handled with a certain degree of violence to get the point across. Have you ever seen an adult dog disciplining a puppy? Same thing.
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Sometimes children need to be handled with a certain degree of violence to get the point across. Have you ever seen an adult dog disciplining a puppy? Same thing.
You dumb ass! I'm not defending him. I'm saying that if she had behaved appropriately, the officer wouldn't have reacted the way he did, right or wrong. It was her actions that lead to the officers reaction. Why are you defending her? She is just as responsible for what happened, if not more so, since she refused to obey the officer. Her actions are the reason the officer reacted the way he did. Once again, I'm not defending him. I'm simply trying to get it through your thick head that she is not blameless in any of this.You still don't get it. If she had behaved herself, instead of acting like a spoiled little brat, NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED! How about you address THAT instead of deflecting? This is not about what the cop did. It's about what SHE did to get to that point. Actions have consequences, as hers did. Something leftist turds seem incapable of understanding.Can you honestly say that any of this would have happened if she had cooperated?Yes she is but she is not responsible for his tho. You keep saying that she is and that's wrong.
Once again you claim that she is responsible for his actions and he bears no responsibility at all.
Also, you keep repeating you're not excusing his actions then excuse his actions again hy saying she is responsible for the cops actions and not the cop.
Like I said, you are describing no responsibility and follow it up with "I didn't say he's not responsible"
Doesn't matter, the cop is responsible for his actions. Also there are other ways of dealing with it but because his name is Officer Slam he's known for acting just the way he did. I bet you think the name came from several incidents in which the students were responsible for his actions so many times he got the nickname
The answer is no. That is what I'm saying. I suppose that if someone robbed a store and the police shot him 27 times, you could rightly say that he may have over reacted. But if the crook hadn't robbed the store, he wouldn't have PLACED HIMSELF in a situation where he would have gotten shot. She willfully disobeyed a police officer. It's called resisting arrest. SHE placed herself in that position. No one else. Therefore, she is ultimately responsible for what happens, whether or not the cop over reacted. Do you understand now?
Yea she placed herself in that position. But she is not responsible for a grown man's actions no matter how many circles you speak in
I'll address it. Your story is speculation. And since he had the name Officer Slam he didn't get the name because of his calm demeanor.
This is about what the cop did and you keep saying yiu aren't excusing his actions after blaming her for the grown man's actions.
Only you would hold a child more responsible than the adult. Actions do have consequences...and now he's in the bread line.
You celebrate this shit? Every day you libtards outdo your worst.Damn outsmarted by a 16 year old "brat."
. Resisting arrest and you get tosseled.Mom being recently dead might have something to do with that. And you don't get to throw a child across the floor just because they won't obey you.She probably did, but all kids act out. It's up to the adults to be rational and controlled about it. In this case, nope.Throwing a teenage girl across the floor is never appropriate. That is Excessive Force, for which he was fired. Now you know.The cop did not lose anything, you damned liar.
He responded with appropriate force because the little shit was assaulting him.
Perhaps the girl's baby mama should have raised her to act properly. Now you know.
Not based on this thug girl's actions. If her mother had raised her properly, she wouldn't have planned to resist and would have done what she was told, when she was told, by someone that had the authority to tell her. When she planned it, based on what this thread indicates, I would say her mother is the cause of why she acts that way.
I'll address it. Your story is speculation. And since he had the name Officer Slam he didn't get the name because of his calm demeanor..
No, he got it because of racist Marxists who defend every thug and accuse every officer.
She got what she deserved? Really? A student deserves to be handled in such a brutal manner?Do you think that government is too intrusive? That government has no part to play in your personal life? Here is government run amok! Here is police brutality without justification! No student deserves to be treated in such a manner. She was not armed, she posed no threat. And yet Conservatives prefer Jack booted thuggery above professional comportment.
What is wrong with you people! Is it an 'ethical' requirement to be a brute, a thug, an asshole to carry any Conservative bona fides?
She resisted the cops attempt to remove her from the class room and she struck him.
She got exactly what she deserved.
Its a shame that people who depend on police protection like libtards cant ahve a shred of empathy for the difficult job cops have without having to deal with little bitches like this thug.
What is it about America you love? Thuggish police tactics or an erosion of civic comportment? How can you rationalize that she deserved such treatment?
Why should we tolerate brutality? Should we accept living in a police state in which tactics and the application of force should be unchecked? Uncivilized? Unwarranted?
Are all Conservatives brutes as well as Authoritarians?
Protocol and procedure would have required the officer to transition the situation from an administrative situation to a legal one. The officer should have let the student know the situation was now being turned into a demand that she leave the room or face a formal charge of trespassing, not a breaking of a school rule. Added to that would be his informing the student that failure to comply with his instructions would lead to even more serious charges that would result in her incarceration at a juvenile facility. Until that procedure is followed the officer is only presenting himself as muscle for the principal.He was supposed to treat her like any other citizen that is about to be arrested. Inform the person they are about to be arrested and charged with a specific crime(s) and that failure to comply with instructions will result in further and more serious charges that will cause incarceration.ok----what was he supposed to do?
what was she supposed to be arrested for? not going to the principal's office?
does that even begin to sound normal to you?
i can't respond as i'm not sure what protocol was. it isn't my expertise. what i can say is that teachers i know are appalled by what happened. they say criminalizing the student's behavior was a breach of the student/teacher relationship; that clearly the girl has issues that need attention; and police were not necessary to intervene at all as the girl was not violent.
How odd then, that Deputy Fields has wide support from the school's teachers, administrators, and even students. Maybe you just hear what you want to.
There is a difference between a request and an order. You are not required to follow a simple request without explanation. The officer is required to make an actual order and warn of an arrest if the order is not followed. If the order is not a legal order the officer opens himself or herself to liability in the form of a law suite.All of us have a right to question what appears to us to be an unlawful order from a police officer. That is why a specific protocol and procedure is used when making an arrest. Failure to follow those procedures and protocol and specified in numerous SCOTUS rulings can, and do leading to invalidating an arrest.The SUPREME COURT has ruled that taking video of police is a constitutional right. The girl had a constitutional right to tell other students to video Officer Slam and to video him herself.The "planning" is nothing but another lie from the worthless lying scum on the Right.She was a witness to the little ***** planning on defying the law.
Did she have a right to refuse the rightful order of a police officer? Seems many on here believe she did.
You are claiming the student disregarded Officer Slam and is thus, guilty of a crime. In America even racist people like you have to live with a simple American constitutional right that demands a person, even a black teenager, is innocent until proven guilty. She nor anyone else has to prove her innocence, you and the other racist attacking her have to prove her guilt. So far no legal authority is even attempting to make the claims you are attempting to make.There is no evidence or even claim that the officer was there to make an arrest. The decision to charge the students with a crime was made after the incident. The evidence to this is the video and again, the fact that the claim of a warning of an arrest was not claimed.There is no evidence to indicate Officer Slam was there to make an arrest or that the student knew she was being arrested. In her mind Officer Slam was just doing the bidding of the teacher and administrator. Neither the administrator nor Officer Slam informed her that the situation was transitioning from an administrative to a legal situation.
Actually, there is . It doesn't matter what she thought. I matters what he was there to do and that was to arrest her under SC Code of Laws 17-16-420. It's called disturbing school.
You say there is no evidence to indicate she was being arrested but you've determined she wasn't informed of the situation transitioning. The sad thing is that you make that claim, get this, without evidence.
There is no evidence of your claim they didn't inform her. You're saying they didn't do something you can't prove they didn't do.
While she may be innocent until proven guilty, she doesn't have a right to refuse a lawful request by a police officer. He wouldn't have been there other than to make an arrest. That's how the law works under these situations.
. Celebrating lawlessness. Is it because she's black? You are morally bankrupt like all liberals. Disgusting.You celebrate this shit? Every day you libtards outdo your worst.Damn outsmarted by a 16 year old "brat."
I celebrate that someone who can be outsmarted by a child is no longer wearing a badge. Too stupid for the job
The celebrating is for this he-man cop being canned.. Celebrating lawlessness. Is it because she's black? You are morally bankrupt like all liberals.You celebrate this shit? Every day you libtards outdo your worst.Damn outsmarted by a 16 year old "brat."
I celebrate that someone who can be outsmarted by a child is no longer wearing a badge. Too stupid for the job
I watched the video. I could not see her assault the cop in the school. I could see another egregious example of bad cop brutality that seems to be the way the uncivilized, Authoritarian American Conservative thinks police should handle every situation. What a pity. And what a scam the Conservatives have been pulling. All this braggado about 'freedom' and 'liberty'! What a crock of crap! You don't want citizens to have freedom! The intrusive government you ***** about is fine and dandy assaulting citizens. It's your money you want the freedom for.I gave the link, find it yourself.She assaulted the officer? Show us where. What point in the timeline can we see the assault by which you and your warped, Totalitarian thinking an assault happened.[
She got what she deserved? Really? A student deserves to be handled in such a brutal manner?
When she assaults an officer? HELL YES?
What god damned planet are you from, shit-for-brains?
Its the dirty little secret among many conservatives. For all their talk about liberty, freedom and small government...
.....they believe in a strict hierarchy of authority. And many believe in brutal enforcement of even the smallest infractions of that hierarchy.
Which is why so many conservatives watching a girl being slammed to the ground and dragged by her throat for *not putting a cell phone away* respond with 'yeah? And'?
This is how they think things should be. This is a window into the conservative vision of how they think things are supposed to be.
Dude the Police are not tough on everyone LOLCelebrating lawlessness. Is it because she's black? You are morally bankrupt like all liberals.
She wasn't under arrest.. Resisting arrest and you get tosseled.Mom being recently dead might have something to do with that. And you don't get to throw a child across the floor just because they won't obey you.She probably did, but all kids act out. It's up to the adults to be rational and controlled about it. In this case, nope.Throwing a teenage girl across the floor is never appropriate. That is Excessive Force, for which he was fired. Now you know.
Perhaps the girl's baby mama should have raised her to act properly. Now you know.
Not based on this thug girl's actions. If her mother had raised her properly, she wouldn't have planned to resist and would have done what she was told, when she was told, by someone that had the authority to tell her. When she planned it, based on what this thread indicates, I would say her mother is the cause of why she acts that way.
. Celebrating lawlessness. Is it because she's black? You are morally bankrupt like all liberals. Disgusting.You celebrate this shit? Every day you libtards outdo your worst.Damn outsmarted by a 16 year old "brat."
I celebrate that someone who can be outsmarted by a child is no longer wearing a badge. Too stupid for the job
Getting fired is not enough if this man is not prosecuted for aggravated child abuse and endangerment [two counts since he nearly injured an un-involved student directly behind his victim] there is still no justice.The celebrating is for this he-man cop being canned.
Time will tell. At least he's banned from the schools and the kids for now. That alone makes them safer.Getting fired is not enough if this man is not prosecuted for aggravated child abuse and endangerment [two counts since he nearly injured an un-involved student directly behind his victim] there is still no justice.The celebrating is for this he-man cop being canned.
If a parent was caught on camera man handling his child like that there would be arrests.
The other thing is test the man for steroids
Is that what witnesses said? If so, I think he restrained himself rather well. He should get a commendation.The man didn't have the right temperament for law enforcement.
none of the videos shown so far has not revealed (nor will we ever see this one) where she was throwing punches at the cop.., the last punch was on the crotch.., that is when he decided to teach the little niggroid kunt a valuable lesson.![]()
And this is the culture that has so deeply infected the "black community": A child who refuses to do what she's told multiple times is the hero.
The decay continues. American Blacks continue to be victimized by those who claim to "care".
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