Russia threatens to attack new US base in Poland as ‘priority target’

[Zavulon]

Probably not while there is a major build up of NATO an US Forces in Eastern Europe. Plus, Trump has a certain unpredictability. He might be willing to give away Ukraine to Russia, but I really don't see him walking away for NATO and Europe, so attacking Poland would be a very bad idea.

No. It was very bad idea to attack Russia directly. Now you should face the consequences of you ideas.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Russia already attacked US military bases in 3rd countries (as it was in Syria). Its not a big deal and nothing actually new. The proper answer for American attack against Russian bases in Bryansk oblast will be attack against US bases on US soil. And, I think, such attack is now preparing.

Attacking America on their soil directly would not be good for anyone.

Do you know how much the Neo-Con and WarHawks would be salivating over the prospect of a war with Russia? America would fund their military to the tune of trillions and the rest of NATO would also be involved.

Russia has to be wise and realize the best offramp will occur after Trump takes power.

 

[Zavulon]

And we thought the Japanese would never attack Pearl Harbor.

Whoops.

Yeah. Not just didn't know about such an attack, but deliberately and lively denied such an opportunity. "There will be American Port-Artur" they've been saying.

 

[BackAgain]

Perhaps WWIII will commence before Trump gets into office.

This is all dangerous, especially the timing.

Russia threatens to attack new US base in Poland as ‘priority target’

Russia has threatened to attack a new US defense base in Poland with “advanced weapons” — just hours after reportedly launching an intercontinental ballistic missile at Ukraine on Thursday. Moscow leveled the warning after saying the opening of the ballistic missile defense base, located in the...

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Russia has threatened to attack a new US defense base in Poland with “advanced weapons” — just hours after reportedly launching an intercontinental ballistic missile at Ukraine on Thursday. Moscow leveled the warning after saying the opening of the ballistic missile defense base, located in the town of Redzikowo near the Baltic coast, would lead to an increase in overall nuclear danger.

If they did that, the next target would be the Kremlin.

I give Putin very little credit for thinking reasonably, but maybe even he doesn’t want his bones glowing in the dark.

 

[Zavulon]

Attacking America on their soil directly would not be good for anyone.

Not "good", but "lesser evil". We attack one of your bases and, may be, you'll understand that you shouldn't attack our bases.

Do you know how much the Neo-Con and WarHawks would be salivating over the prospect of a war with Russia? America would fund their military to the tune of trillions and the rest of NATO would also be involved.

If you wish the fight there will be a fight. Its not what we can change. But if we attack one of your bases, may be, you'll not be that warmongering.

Russia has to be wise and realize the best offramp will occur after Trump takes power.

Nothing will change. Whatever he said, Trump can't recognise and accept the legitimate Russian demands.

 

[Zavulon]

If they did that, the next target would be the Kremlin.

You won't attack Kremlin without certain preparations for Moscow ABD is able to intercept a limited attack. And them Russia will try to attack first. But even if Russia failed attack first - Russian retaliation will virtually annihilate the USA.

I give Putin very little credit for thinking reasonably, but maybe even he doesn’t want his bones glowing in the dark.

He won't be in Moscow. He will be on his command post under Yamantau. Good luck in your attempt of destroying it without cumulative nukes (or even with them).

 

[marvin martian]

Par for the course.

Putin fools his populace into thinking defensive installations are offensive. Then he gets the support to ply his vain war of aggression.

Been the playbook since before the war.

Putin is going to get hyper-aggressive with one of his vassals in the White House.

And there goes Petersburg.

Look how wet the DemoKKKrat warmongers are for the holocaust with Russia they've been fantasizing about for years. Sick.

 

[BackAgain]

You won't attack Kremlin without certain preparations for Moscow ABD is able to intercept a limited attack. And them Russia will try to attack first. But even if Russia failed attack first - Russian retaliation will virtually annihilate the USA.


He won't be in Moscow. He will be on his command post under Yamantau. Good luck in your attempt of destroying it without cumulative nukes (or even with them).

Your propaganda is worthless. Russia is a second rate world power. If it came to war, Russia would lose in mere hours.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Not "good", but "lesser evil". We attack one of your bases and, may be, you'll understand that you shouldn't attack our bases.


If you wish the fight there will be a fight. Its not what we can change. But if we attack one of your bases, may be, you'll not be that warmongering.


Nothing will change. Whatever he said, Trump can't recognise and accept the legitimate Russian demands.

You won't be attacking one of my bases, I'm Canadian.

I would prefer we avoid WWIII, what about you? Haven't enough people died in Ukraine/Russia? If Russia has the goal of taking all of Ukraine, you will be awakening a sleeping giant in Europe most definitely.

 

[marvin martian]

Putin is going to get hyper-aggressive with one of his vassals in the White House.

Is that why Putin invades another country every time Barack Obama or Joe Biden are in the White House?

You fucking moron.

 

[Zavulon]

Look how wet the DemoKKKrat warmongers are for the holocaust with Russia they've been fantasizing about for years. Sick.

No problems. Sometimes it's better to give them a lesson, or just kill them all.

 

[Zavulon]

You won't be attacking one of my bases, I'm Canadian.

You are a part of NATO, aren't you?

I would prefer we avoid WWIII, what about you?

Me too. But, if the war is inevitable (and it looks like inevitable) its much better to attack first.

Haven't enough people died in Ukraine/Russia?

It's not about death, it's about life. It's about equal rights and equal safety for everyone. And for this goal we need to push NATO's military infrastructure at least back to the borders of 1997.

If Russia has the goal of taking all of Ukraine, you will be awakening a sleeping giant in Europe most definitely.

No problem. This giant wake up every century once or twice, to gather its forces and go to Russia to be beaten and raped after it. Hitler, Napoleon, Charles XII, Sigismund II and many, many other freaks tried to do it. We'll beat them one more time (and may be, this time will be last for them).

 

[White 6]

No. It was very bad idea to attack Russia directly. Now you should face the consequences of you ideas.

There will be no consequences, that matter, Ivan. Get another hit of that cheap Grolovka Vodka, bum a Донской Табак, smoke and tell your handler, they are buying it.

 

[Zavulon]

There will be no consequences, that matter, Ivan.

Any action (and even lack of action) has consequences. When people forget about it, they became reckless and it leads them to the certain fall.

 

[shockedcanadian]

You are a part of NATO, aren't you?


Me too. But, if the war is inevitable (and it looks like inevitable) its much better to attack first.


It's not about death, it's about life. It's about equal rights and equal safety for everyone. And for this goal we need to push NATO's military infrastructure at least back to the borders of 1997.


No problem. This giant wake up every century once or twice, to gather its forces and go to Russia to be beaten and raped after it. Hitler, Napoleon, Charles XII, Sigismund II and many, many other freaks tried to do it. We'll beat them one more time (and may be, this time will be last for them).

The old Soviet Union was no delicate flower and far from innocent. The vast majority of your problems have been internal, from the Czar to Stalin. No nation is without skeletons and Russia is far from innocent. The old Soviet Union and China hold the record for the most murders...of their own citizens.

Let's not pretend that Russia didn't expand their influence and cause great harm to many nations, from the old Czechoslovakia to Poland, Hungary, East Germany, and, you starved 2M Ukranian farmers which surely ensured decades of stories past on through the generations. Also, despite your denials, you also invaded Afghanistan.

The spreading of communism into China perhaps did the most long term damage to the world, and eventually I presume, to Russia once China becomes a prime enemy again. Nothing lasts forever, even close alliances.

There was a short relationship of convenience during WWII, Stalin should have leveraged this and embraced freedom for his citizens. You could have been the manufacturing juggernaught that China became. Alas, 40 years later, Gorbachev was rejected and viewed as an enemy by the oligarchs. Quite unfortunate. They could have brought down the military expansion across the globe if they had created a friendship with the West and we might have a cure for cancer today instead of million dollar missiles being fired.

 

[White 6]

Any action (and even lack of action) has consequences. When people forget about it, they became reckless and it leads them to the certain fall.

Simple. Don't take a stupid action, you won't have any consequence, and don't let your battleship ass overload your rowboat mouth.

 

[Zavulon]

The old Soviet Union was no delicate flower and far from innocent. The vast majority of your problems have been internal, from the Czar to Stalin. No nation is without skeletons and Russia is far from innocent. The old Soviet Union and China hold the record for the most murders...of their own citizens.

Let's not pretend that Russia didn't expand their influence and cause great harm to many nations, from the old Czechoslovakia to Poland, Hungary, East Germany, and, you starved 2M Ukranian farmers which surely ensured decades of stories past on through the generations. Also, despite your denials, you also invaded Afghanistan.

The spreading of communism into China perhaps did the most long term damage to the world, and eventually I presume, to Russia once China becomes a prime enemy again. Nothing lasts forever, even close alliances.

There was a short relationship of convenience during WWII, Stalin should have leveraged this and embraced freedom for his citizens. You could have been the manufacturing juggernaught that China became. Alas, 40 years later, Gorbachev was rejected and viewed as an enemy by the oligarchs. Quite unfortunate. They could have brought down the military expansion across the globe if they had created a friendship with the West and we might have a cure for cancer today instead of million dollar missiles being fired.

If you really want to make friendship with Russia, you, for starters, should stop killing them and discriminating them. If you can't do it (and I believe you can't do it), the war will be escalating until decisive defeat or virtual annihilation of at least one side.

 

[shockedcanadian]

If you really want to make friendship with Russia, you, for starters, should stop killing them and discriminating them. If you can't do it (and I believe you can't do it), the war will be escalating until decisive defeat or virtual annihilation of at least one side.

All you are doing is shilling for powerful people with weapons, there are people like you on both sides of the ocean, they are found all over in America as well.

Who wins? No one. No nation has ever won a war. They may be the one who loses a little less but no one ever wins a war.

 

[Zavulon]

Simple. Don't take a stupid action, you won't have any consequence, and don't let your battleship ass overload your rowboat mouth.

You already made a fatal mistake of attacking Russia.
Russia has a simple choice:
1) Ignore it. The only results of the said ignorance will be increasing leven of the further American attacks, with more and more deadly weapons. Eventually, the USA will give Ukraine nukes and order to attack Russian cities. So, its not an option at all.
2) Try to answer more or less equally. Just respond. "An eye for an eye and a base for a base". May be, it will cause de-escalation, but there will be significant risk that the enemy will launch an all-out nuclear attack first. So, uncontrollable escalation has an option worth to try, but without real guarantees.
3) Controlled escalation, when on every provocation you launch more significant, but well-calculated higher-level retaliation, rasing on the ladder of escalation (slowly but steadily) giving you opponent the opportunity to make few steps back. Good, but also not reliable option, because it depends on your opponent, because on the highest levels of escalation he still can try to attack first.
4) Direct well-prepared counter-force attack at the relatively low steps of the ladder of escalation, attacking and degrading his actual capabilities to retaliate. In some circumstances it will be the best option.

 

[Zavulon]

All you are doing is shilling for powerful people with weapons, there are people like you on both sides of the ocean, they are found all over in America as well.

Who wins? No one. No nation has ever won a war. They may be the one who loses a little less but no one ever wins a war.

It depends on your definition of victory. If they are dead and we are alive - its quite good victory I believe.