Russia Continues Advance Toward The Dnieper

[Unkotare]

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An opulent dinner or opulent dining

Are you hungry?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

We will never know because you only go up against small weak Countries who can't fight back.

The understatement of the century.America is a great country but it’s the most corrupt government on the planet.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You can't "invade" a place if you are already there. And no, it was NATO, who started expansion eastward.

You took the words right out of my mouth,I could not have said it better word for word,you owned him handing his ass to him on a platter,what the corporate controlled media reports are not the facts of what has happened.he has been brainwashed by the corporate controlled media.

 

[Kruska]

Are you hungry?

Not anymore - I just had an opulent meal

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I think it's a waste of time trying to give these people a reality check, they have been so propagandized they will need to be de Zombified from their Truman Show version of reality.

The understatement of the year,you nailed it.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Where do you think those tanks, drones, boats, airplanes and missiles are coming from bro? NATO has been there causing trouble and killing civilians for years. That's why Russia invaded bro, to defend their country from the nazi invaders.

Careful,you will override his brain with too many facts thst go against his fantasy’s he will have a heart attack PeterPilot

 

[frigidweirdo]

Hitler messed things up, yes. But Germany had zero ability to defeat the British Empire OR the USA alone, most definitely not the two combined. Even if by some miracle Hitler could have conquered Great Britian, the rest of the Empire/Commonwealth would have fought on.

If things had broken its way, Germany could have defeated Russia and nearly did. Stalin was prepared to abandon Moscow and even had a special train standing by as the Germans approached. Taking Moscow would have severed the rail connections to the European USSR since unlike most countries, Soviet rail was sort of a series design rather than the parallel designs that most western countries used. All railroads led to Moscow lose Moscow and supplies from the relocated factories and food to feed them couldn't be distributed. Russia lacked a decent road network and depended on rail instead.

Oh, Hitler would have destroyed the UK had he bothered to invade.

The US would have been different, but with the UK gone, the US wouldn't have bothered.

 

[The Duke]

The Russians are fighting NATO and their proxy Ukrainian idiots, when we see NATO missiles hitting Russia then it's a NATO war, only thing that surprises me is that Russia has been so restrained, they should have sent a message by hitting a NATO asset as a reality check for those warmongers.

Yes they are just the same people, but many Ukrainians as a Russian soldier put it. Ukrainians have been bitten by a rabid Dog that is the US and NATO, once they have been cured we will welcome our Brothers home why wouldn't we.

Oh, seriously, **** off with that.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Oh, Hitler would have destroyed the UK had he bothered to invade.

The US would have been different, but with the UK gone, the US wouldn't have bothered.

Wrong. Hitler would have done no more to Great Britain IF he managed a successful invasion, than he did to France. He would have set Mosely up as a quisling patsy to rule under a Reichs chancellor. The Royal family would flee to Canada with the Royal Navy and as much of the Army and treasury as could be carried and the Commonwealth would continue the war as Allies of the USA. The USA would guarantee Ireland’s freedom and use it as a base to operate near Europe as it did with Iceland and Greenland.

Germany still loses, just a year or two later unless FDR nukes Berlin.

 

[The Duke]

Not anymore - I just had an opulent meal

And what did that consist of, brah? Look at me as just a man, trying to guide you on your spiritual path in this world..
that involves meat.
I tell ya wut, one of the best meals I ever had was a bear roast. Oh, it was good AF.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wrong. Hitler would have done no more to Great Britain IF he managed a successful invasion, than he did to France. He would have set Mosely up as a quisling patsy to rule under a Reichs chancellor. The Royal family would flee to Canada with the Royal Navy and as much of the Army and treasury as could be carried and the Commonwealth would continue the war as Allies of the USA. The USA would guarantee Ireland’s freedom and use it as a base to operate near Europe as it did with Iceland and Greenland.

Germany still loses, just a year or two later unless FDR nukes Berlin.

Well, that meets my definition of "destroyed" when he destroy France's military.

Ireland wouldn't have risked its neutrality to allow the US to use it as a base.

 

[Kruska]

And what did that consist of, brah? Look at me as just a man, trying to guide you on your spiritual path in this world..
that involves meat.
I tell ya wut, one of the best meals I ever had was a bear roast. Oh, it was good AF.

Man??

 

[Kruska]

And what did that consist of, brah? Look at me as just a man, trying to guide you on your spiritual path in this world..
that involves meat.
I tell ya wut, one of the best meals I ever had was a bear roast. Oh, it was good AF.

This topic is about CHINESE food and OPULENT DINING - and not about your bear-trapper delights

BTW - nothing beats Ostrich and Wild-boar - meat.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Well, that meets my definition of "destroyed" when he destroy France's military.

Ireland wouldn't have risked its neutrality to allow the US to use it as a base.

Vichy still had a military. Admittedly not a very capable one. Mosely would have needed the existing police and military structures to rule Great Britain as Germany's colony. Not to mention defending it from an American invasion that most of the population would support and welcome.

With a German occupies or allied Britian next door Ireland would be looking for any help it could get. With occupied Northern Ireland next door, the Irish Republic would be in trouble. An American division or two would make a dandy firewall against further German aggression.

 

[Deadstick]

Vichy still had a military. Admittedly not a very capable one. Mosely would have needed the existing police and military structures to rule Great Britain as Germany's colony. Not to mention defending it from an American invasion that most of the population would support and welcome.

With a German occupies or allied Britian next door Ireland would be looking for any help it could get. With occupied Northern Ireland next door, the Irish Republic would be in trouble. An American division or two would make a dandy firewall against further German aggression.

Every Country in Europe that the Nazis occupied those police and military structures you talk about collaborated to a large extent, it would have been no different in Britain, you only have to look at the Channel Islands, there were also some collaborators on the Islands some high profile but after the war it was all swept under the carpet, they gave lists of Jews to the occupation forces and many were transported to the death camps, and there were some concentration camps run by the SS most prisoners were Soviet soldiers, having said that there were some very brave Islanders who resisted best they could some escaped Soviet POWs were hidden by civilians.

 

[Deadstick]

What is even more important, Germany couldn't have rearmed it's Army and build the Fleet without British, American and French assistance (say nothing about American financial support).

Very true follow the money Caapitalists will be Capitalists thats why British business had shares in Krupp IG Farben and other German companies, after the first world war one condition was the German airforce didn't have to have anything bigger than a Glider, the Germans were also heavily involved in the Spanish civil war sending their Condor legion, that is when Hitler could and should have been stopped, instead there were some among Western Countries like in Britain who were supporting the Franco Nationalist against the Republicans.

 

[Deadstick]

Oh, Hitler would have destroyed the UK had he bothered to invade.

The US would have been different, but with the UK gone, the US wouldn't have bothered.

The Nazis lost the battle of Britain that is why we never found out.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The Nazis lost the battle of Britain that is why we never found out.

Oh we know, the German plans for Seelowe are open source now. Germany viewed the Channel as a large river. There was no plan for surface gunfire support, no specialized tank landing ships, the "landing barges" were converted river barges that weren't very seaworthy and the English Channel is one of the roughest bodies of water on the planet. Many of the barges weren't even self-propelled but would have to be towed by tugs or fishing trawlers. At best the Germans would have landed two infantry divisions and a hundred or so tanks, at worst, none of them would have survived the attacks by the RAF, Royal Navy cruisers, destroyers and corvettes based in or near the channel and the weather. Hitler would have lost his entire navy fighting the Royal Navy trying to clear the channel and protect the barges and all the troops. Even if Germany had managed to land the entire force, most of the barges would have been damaged or stuck on the beaches so there would be no resupply leaving the troops with whatever supplies and ammo they had on their backs. That would have been two or three days of combat at most. In eight hours, the tanks would have been static pillboxes when they ran out of fuel and drained the few service stations they might have captured intact. If the BEF hadn't escaped from Dunkirk with a large portion of the French Army, things might have been different since most of the trained British troops were in the BEF.

In short, the Germans had nothing that was necessary for a successful amphibious invasion, no training no equipment and no navy to speak of.

 

[martybegan]

Well, that meets my definition of "destroyed" when he destroy France's military.

Ireland wouldn't have risked its neutrality to allow the US to use it as a base.

Ireland would have asked for Ulster back and gotten it and would have probably just gone along with being a client state for Germany.

 

[martybegan]

Oh we know, the German plans for Seelowe are open source now. Germany viewed the Channel as a large river. There was no plan for surface gunfire support, no specialized tank landing ships, the "landing barges" were converted river barges that weren't very seaworthy and the English Channel is one of the roughest bodies of water on the planet. Many of the barges weren't even self-propelled but would have to be towed by tugs or fishing trawlers. At best the Germans would have landed two infantry divisions and a hundred or so tanks, at worst, none of them would have survived the attacks by the RAF, Royal Navy cruisers, destroyers and corvettes based in or near the channel and the weather. Hitler would have lost his entire navy fighting the Royal Navy trying to clear the channel and protect the barges and all the troops. Even if Germany had managed to land the entire force, most of the barges would have been damaged or stuck on the beaches so there would be no resupply leaving the troops with whatever supplies and ammo they had on their backs. That would have been two or three days of combat at most. In eight hours, the tanks would have been static pillboxes when they ran out of fuel and drained the few service stations they might have captured intact. If the BEF hadn't escaped from Dunkirk with a large portion of the French Army, things might have been different since most of the trained British troops were in the BEF.

In short, the Germans had nothing that was necessary for a successful amphibious invasion, no training no equipment and no navy to speak of.

The only way they were beating England was by starving them out, and to do that they either had to skip Barbarossa or win their war against Russia and then build up their navy safely in the Baltic by say 1948 or so.