PoliticalChic
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Not true. You are promoting another conspiracy theory and trying to present it as factual history. A process of repatriation was in progress and hit a snag after thousands were repatriated. What you addressed was an intel report of eight Americans unlisted that had been liberated in Poland. The Russians admitted there were actually 17 who had not been listed because they were in Russian military hospitals. The conspiracy theory was further advanced with a British report of "5.000". With the return of 2,687, plus the 884 awaiting release, that added up to 2,571. The conspiracy theorist rounded the approximately 1,500 missing from the guestimate in the British report. Somewhere along the conspiracy that got rounded off to 2,000 and later, that turned into 20,000.You conveniently leave out the fact that thousands (2,687) American servicemen held in German POW camps and liberated by the Russian were repatriated during the time frame of the letters you speak of. You also fail to recognize that Moscow was claiming only 17 sick Americans were not included in the accounting of those being held.The west, including the US refused to repatriate Russians that were under the west's control from liberated POW camps. Discussions were just beginning and FDR died only a month after the letters you quote. How FDR would have acted or reacted is purely speculation.Liar.
March 3, 1945, FDR cables Stalin to request 'urgently' for American teams to evacuate American prisoners of war 'liberated' by the Red Army
March 5, 1945, Stalin replied: Nyet.
"...concerning the question of prisoners of war....on the territory of Poland and other places liberated by the Red Army, there are no groups of American prisoners of war...."
"My Dear Mr. Stalin: The Complete Correspondence of Franklin D. Roosevelt and Joseph V. Stalin," by Susan Butler, Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. p. 299
Stalin told the British the same thing about 20,000-30,000 British ex-prisoners. "The Iron Cage," by Nigel Cawthorne, p. 5
I do so appreciate that you didn't debt that you are a Roosevelt boot-liker.
The west, including the US refused to repatriate Russians that were under the west's control from liberated POW camps. Discussions were just beginning and FDR died only a month after the letters you quote. How FDR would have acted or reacted is purely speculation.Liar.
March 3, 1945, FDR cables Stalin to request 'urgently' for American teams to evacuate American prisoners of war 'liberated' by the Red Army
March 5, 1945, Stalin replied: Nyet.
"...concerning the question of prisoners of war....on the territory of Poland and other places liberated by the Red Army, there are no groups of American prisoners of war...."
"My Dear Mr. Stalin: The Complete Correspondence of Franklin D. Roosevelt and Joseph V. Stalin," by Susan Butler, Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. p. 299
Stalin told the British the same thing about 20,000-30,000 British ex-prisoners. "The Iron Cage," by Nigel Cawthorne, p. 5
There is no speculation in stating that Roosevelt walked away from thousands of American soldiers' lives when Stalin refused to return them.
Is there.
And after all that Roosevelt did for his inamorata.
O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?
Deny thy father and refuse thy name.
Or if thou wilt not, be but sworn my love
And I’ll no longer be a ......
....socialist.
It was Truman who decided not to make the repatriation issue a priority (April 23, 1945) and believed the stalling was tempory and could be worked out at a later date. The atomic bomb was months away from testing and Russia entering the war with Japan held priority. The only reliable figure for the number of Americans being held was 884 that the Russians acknowledged and were arranging for release.
There is no speculation in stating that Roosevelt walked away from thousands of American soldiers' lives when Stalin refused to return them.
Is there.
True or not.
Fact remains that in the middle of the repatriation process while the war was still being fought, FDR died and at the close of the war he was not a factor. He was dead. If American servicemen were abandoned it was not FDR that abandoned them.
Liar.
Disgusting, low-life Roosevelt gutter snipe.
Despite the total victory in Europe by Allied forces, thousands and thousands of US soldiers -- perhaps as many as 20,000 -- were never repatriated from prisoner of war (POW) camps, prisons and forced labor and concentration camps.
These American soldiers were being held in Nazi prison camps, along with other Allied POWs and some Nazi captives, when they were overrun by the Red Army. Thus, hundreds of thousands of Allied POWs who had been held by the Nazis, as well as millions of Western European citizens, or Displaced Persons, came under Red Army control. Indeed, this number increased because General Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, decided to stop the US and British drive eastward into Germany, in order to wait for Soviet forces driving West, so that US and Soviet forces could meet in Berlin.
The Soviet rationale for not repatriating Allied soldiers and citizens, however, was motivated by more complex and more repugnant reasons than credits along. In the memoirs of former Secretary of State under President Truman, James F. Byrnes, there appears an illuminating conversation the Secretary had with Molotov, the Soviet Commissar of Foreign Affairs. In September, 1945, several weeks after Japan's surrender, Byrnes recounted that while in London:
Mr. Molotov came to see me, on instructions from Moscow... [Molotov] wanted to complain of the way in which the surrender terms [with Japan] were being carried out. He complained particularly about the way the Japanese Army was being demobilized. It was dangerous, he said, merely to disarm the Japanese and send them home; they should be held as prisoners of war. We should do what the Red Army was doing with the Japanese it had taken in Manchuria--make them work...No one can say accurately how many Japanese prisoners have been taken to the Soviet Union.
In mid-1947, the best guess was that approximately 500,000 were still there.
Our 20,000 Missing POW's of WWII
Whoever Stalin captured.....
....he had no intention of ever releasing.
He could do this because Franklin Roosevelt couldn't have cared less.