Ron Paul: "Why Don't We Mind Our Own Business?"...

The Paulistas always get it wrong. The world drug us into their business from the time of the Tripolitan wars on. We have never been able to stand alone without having some national interest trampled by foreign governments bent on pushing us around. We simply have stopped being RE actionary and become PRO active.
In the days of the founding of the Republic the oceans kept us fairly isolated in the first place. Now an ICBM can hit within 45 minutes. It's a different world with rising and falling powers throughout. The old Soviet Union may be gone but Islamofascism is on the rise, just like Nazism before it. It must be stopped or we will lose all of out freedoms.
A poll before Pearl Harbor showed that 80% of Americans did not want to get involved in the war. Even after the Nazi Final Solution and Japanese atrocities were revealed.

Had Pearl Harbor not happened, you would be speaking German right now. Wake the hell up.

Losers LET things happen TO them.
Winners MAKE things happen FOR themselves.
Don't turn America into a loser.
In Korea...we were reactive. We reacted to the North Korean agression.

In Vietnam...we were being proactive, and that really didn't get us anywhere. Look at Vietnam right now. They got what they wanted out of that war, indpendence.

In Iraq...we were proactive, and the need for proactivity didn't exist. Iraq will also be no less of a threat to the US after we leave.

In Afghanistan....we were reactive, and after we leave, the same threat of terrorism camps will exist.

In Libya....we were reactive, and tried to ride the wave of anti Qudaffi-ism, and we'll see if a hostile government emerges.

I don't subscirbe to your oversimplified concepts of proactive VS reactive. In WWII, even though Republicans lead the isolationist charge, we were dragged into war. Since then, we have always intervened, and never been attacked. Thus the concept of NOn interventionlism.

The war on Terror....is as Ron Paul says, not a war on a country, but a war on a tactic. Our modern military that is built to win wars of attrition, and is not nearly as neccessary in 2012 as good counter intell, and a fleet of drones is.

China is not imperialistic, nor are they showing signs of becomming so. I lived in China, and it's part of most of thier cultures to mind their own business, and let other countries do what they want, but trade with those countries nonetheless......Which is what non interventionlism is!.

No other countries pose a threat to the US. Even if alll other counties on the world attacked the US at once, without nukes of course, they would not have the money or amphibious capability to invade and hold the US. If anybody fires nukes at the US, there is nothing a standing mechanized Army can do about it.

Our situation today, has NOTHING to do with the pre WWII situation, and the detriments of appeasement.

Germany was a real threat, with an army sophisticated enough to possibly win a war of attrition, where the losers are conquered, the US included.

Terrorism has zero potential to take our freedom and conquer the US.

George Bush's tender notion that if we fought terrorists in the middle east, we wouldn't have to fight them here....is more at home in a hollywood movie script than it is out here in the real world. Sure....they can pull off random attacks, or maybe even a nuke attack, but our conquer Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya plan won't stop people in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Libya from using the tactic of terrorism.

Now if you're one of those that thinks the US has stopped terrorism, and needs to stay in the middle east forever to make sure it stays that way......there isn't anyway I will be able to unwind that notion with any form of reality.

You have to have spent time in places like China, and the middle east, to know why they aren't the threat some say they are.

The US is one of the only countries still practicing cold war militarism. Nobody else can afford that, and we can't either anymore. That sort of Churchill / Audie Murphy worship thing will continue to exist in Chuck Norris and Clint Eastwood movies...not to fret!
 
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I lived in China, and it's part of most of thier cultures to mind their own business, and let other countries do what they want!




NO, it is part of their culture to claim that and then do whatever the hell they want anyway. Ask Tibet. Ask Vietnam. Ask India. Ask Taiwan.
 
Terrorism has zero potential to take our freedom and conquer the US.
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You haven't been paying attention, and your narrow, mypic point of view is dangerously irresponsible. Thank goodness you are an irrelevant nobody.
 
I guess the Military Industrial Complex will always have a Boogeyman to scare the People with. It has been that way since WWII. If we don't have any enemies,you can bet they will create some. When will Americans tire of War?

I believe Americans are tired of war, the real question is when will they do something about it.

Otherwise Paul is correct on this one issue: war is to maintain the American Empire; war and fear keep the people from seeing the truth and acting on it. The mythical ‘war on terror’ is just another manifestation of that doctrine, replacing the ‘war on communism.’
 
I guess the Military Industrial Complex will always have a Boogeyman to scare the People with. It has been that way since WWII. If we don't have any enemies,you can bet they will create some. When will Americans tire of War?

When will you tire of posting the same drivel over and over and over and over and over and............................................



Unfortunately, nuts like him never seem to tire of repeating their drivel. Maybe he does it to try and drown out the voices in his head.
 
The Paulistas always get it wrong. The world drug us into their business from the time of the Tripolitan wars on. We have never been able to stand alone without having some national interest trampled by foreign governments bent on pushing us around. We simply have stopped being RE actionary and become PRO active.
In the days of the founding of the Republic the oceans kept us fairly isolated in the first place. Now an ICBM can hit within 45 minutes. It's a different world with rising and falling powers throughout. The old Soviet Union may be gone but Islamofascism is on the rise, just like Nazism before it. It must be stopped or we will lose all of out freedoms.
A poll before Pearl Harbor showed that 80% of Americans did not want to get involved in the war. Even after the Nazi Final Solution and Japanese atrocities were revealed.

Had Pearl Harbor not happened, you would be speaking German right now. Wake the hell up.

Losers LET things happen TO them.
Winners MAKE things happen FOR themselves.
Don't turn America into a loser.


You're more or less right, except for the "speaking German" part.
 
I guess the Military Industrial Complex will always have a Boogeyman to scare the People with. It has been that way since WWII. If we don't have any enemies,you can bet they will create some. When will Americans tire of War?

I believe Americans are tired of war, the real question is when will they do something about it.

Otherwise Paul is correct on this one issue: war is to maintain the American Empire; war and fear keep the people from seeing the truth and acting on it. The mythical ‘war on terror’ is just another manifestation of that doctrine, replacing the ‘war on communism.’

I'm not sure i can agree. I see so many Chickenhawk Warmongers out there in both parties. Doesn't look like Americans are tired of War yet. Keep in mind,the Military Industrial Complex will always invent a new Boogeyman to scare them with. They've been doing that since WWII. It's certainly no coincidence we've been bombing & killing for the last 70yrs. straight. That's all Americans know now. It's what they've been indoctrinated on. I do hope they tire of War soon though. I mean how much more are they gonna spend in Citizen blood & treasure?
 
I guess the Military Industrial Complex will always have a Boogeyman to scare the People with. It has been that way since WWII. If we don't have any enemies,you can bet they will create some. When will Americans tire of War?

I believe Americans are tired of war, the real question is when will they do something about it.

Otherwise Paul is correct on this one issue: war is to maintain the American Empire; war and fear keep the people from seeing the truth and acting on it. The mythical ‘war on terror’ is just another manifestation of that doctrine, replacing the ‘war on communism.’

I'm not sure i can agree. I see so many Chickenhawk Warmongers out there in both parties. Doesn't look like Americans are tired of War yet. Keep in mind,the Military Industrial Complex will always invent a new Boogeyman to scare them with. They've been doing that since WWII. It's certainly no coincidence we've been bombing & killing for the last 70yrs. straight. That's all Americans know now. It's what they've been indoctrinated on. I do hope they tire of War soon though. I mean how much more are they gonna spend in Citizen blood & treasure?

Have there been more, or less wars post WW2???????????????
 
you're full of shit Paul. Stop with the platitudes. America makes the world a safer more desirable place.
 
I believe Americans are tired of war, the real question is when will they do something about it.

Otherwise Paul is correct on this one issue: war is to maintain the American Empire; war and fear keep the people from seeing the truth and acting on it. The mythical ‘war on terror’ is just another manifestation of that doctrine, replacing the ‘war on communism.’

I'm not sure i can agree. I see so many Chickenhawk Warmongers out there in both parties. Doesn't look like Americans are tired of War yet. Keep in mind,the Military Industrial Complex will always invent a new Boogeyman to scare them with. They've been doing that since WWII. It's certainly no coincidence we've been bombing & killing for the last 70yrs. straight. That's all Americans know now. It's what they've been indoctrinated on. I do hope they tire of War soon though. I mean how much more are they gonna spend in Citizen blood & treasure?

Have there been more, or less wars post WW2???????????????

Nothing but constant War. None declared Constitutionally of course but definitely many. War is all Americans know now. Very few alive today have known anything different.
 
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Ron Paul's isolationist policy is dangerous in a world that seeks to destroy us. Paulettes can keep their heads buried in the sand.. that won't make our enemies and their real intent to attack us go away. He needs to stop looking soo doofy up there too.. they did a lot of cutaways last night and he looked a bit looney.

Ron Paul is not an isolationist. He thinks that our people, our companies should be engaged in the world. Not our politicians. He's right.
 
you're full of shit Paul. Stop with the platitudes. America makes the world a safer more desirable place.

Well, given that our troops are engaged in the middle east and in the world, then I'm with you that we need to take the war to the terrorists and not wait for them to attack. However, have you ever considered there's a better way? Like not actually being there propping up despots and making everyone's enemy ours?

I'd compare it to walking through Harlem with your wallet hanging out of your pants. Sure, you should have the right to do that. Yes, whoever mugs you is a criminal. Yes, they should be arrested and prosecuted. But it's it still a better practice to just not do it? What if we left government out of the energy business and freed US companies to explore and home and make their own deals internationally and let oil prices just be set by a free market instead of with supplies secured by US troops?
 
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I'm not sure i can agree. I see so many Chickenhawk Warmongers out there in both parties. Doesn't look like Americans are tired of War yet. Keep in mind,the Military Industrial Complex will always invent a new Boogeyman to scare them with. They've been doing that since WWII. It's certainly no coincidence we've been bombing & killing for the last 70yrs. straight. That's all Americans know now. It's what they've been indoctrinated on. I do hope they tire of War soon though. I mean how much more are they gonna spend in Citizen blood & treasure?

Have there been more, or less wars post WW2???????????????

Nothing but constant War. None declared Constitutionally of course but definitely many. War is all Americans know now. Very few alive today have known anything different.

As long as congress votes on wars, most don't have a problem with that. In today's world it's not practical for congress to declare war, when they aren't the figures directly dealing with the opposition, the way administrations do. I agree that congress should have a voice though.

You're a pacifist, you don't understand that war is some times a necessary evil...That's the world we live in, which you refuse to try and understand.

this is you

War = bad

Not War = good
 
you're full of shit Paul. Stop with the platitudes. America makes the world a safer more desirable place.

Well, given that our troops are engaged in the middle east and in the world, then I'm with you that we need to take the war to the terrorists and not wait for them to attack. However, have you ever considered there's a better way? Like not actually being there propping up despots and making everyone's enemy ours?

I'd compare it to walking through Harlem with your wallet hanging out of your pants. Sure, you should have the right to do that. Yes, whoever mugs you is a criminal. Yes, they should be arrested and prosecuted. But it's it still a better practice to just not do it? What if we left government out of the energy business and freed US companies to explore and home and make their own deals internationally and let oil prices just be set by a free market instead of with supplies secured by US troops?

that's because you're a simple ****.
 
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