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What is it that you don't understand about the idea of comparisons?
If you replace every car on the road with another that is 30% heavier what do you think will happen?
Nothing right?
If you want to actually have an intelligent discussion let me know.
until then go fuck yourself
Look another fucking retard
What is it you don't understand about much heavier vehicles being put onto the road every day? Cement trucks for example, 18 Wheelers, SUVs, etc...What is it that you don't understand about the idea of comparisons?
We did replace a great many smaller cars with SUVs. You didn't say jack shit. Why? Your answer was that I didn't start a thread about this topic you say will "cause problems"If you replace every car on the road with another that is 30% heavier what do you think will happen?
Nothing right?
I would have to have it with someone who was intelligent...you don't qualify. Clearly you're only concern is that the newest "threat" to the roadways (something you've never talked about before today) is SUVs and you think it is a threat to the nation's manhood somehow.If you want to actually have an intelligent discussion let me know.
SUVs aren't a threat to the nation's manhood.Until you can explain how every car on the road will be an EV in less than 50 years, you can go fuck yourself. If weight is the issue, then the weights of other, far more common vehicles, is a valid response.
I'm pretty sure there are more Suburbans (and other large SUVs) on the road than there are EVs.
No, just a valid question you do not want to answer.
Look, there are plenty of valid reasons not to want an EV. Range, time it takes to refuel, and even the danger of fires we are not totally prepared to combat.
But weight? A 2018 Cadillac Escalade weighs 7,500 lbs.
Until you can explain how every car on the road will be an EV in less than 50 years, you can go fuck yourself. If weight is the issue, then the weights of other, far more common vehicles, is a valid response.
I'm pretty sure there are more Suburbans (and other large SUVs) on the road than there are EVs.
Bridges, roads, guardrails are not designed for the average car they are designed for the heaviest possible weight... plus a large fudge factor.Where did I imply that I think ALLL cars should be limited to 3300 pounds?
Quote the post.
I made a comment on your shitty comparison of a midsized car to a full sized SUV.
That's all I did/
But you pricks have to assign some nefarious ulterior motive to it .
Maybe your simple mind can understand this.
If a bridge was constructed to handle a static weight of 500 average cars because that's how many cars could be stuck on the bridge unable to move for any number of reasons, what would happen if all cars on that bridge were 30% heavier?
According to you it doesn;t matter because and ICE SUV weighs more than a midsize EV
These idiots start with a belief then back their way into nonsense.How much does a fully loaded Peterbuilt 53' trailer weigh vs a Prius?
I'm guessing the Peterbuilt (that has been on the road since the 60's) weighs more. Strange how suddenly the roads can't handle their weight.
Er...they are lighter than commercial trucks yes?Many of us engineering inclined people worried about the impact on our infrastructure of vehicles that weight 30% or more than ICE vehicles. They are finally covering the problem -
A crash test performed on a guardrail on Oct. 12, 2023, highlighted the concern. At 60 mph, the 7,000-plus-pound, 2022 Rivian R1T truck tore through the barrier with little reduction in speed. In a separate test conducted in September, a 2018 Tesla Model 3 sedan lifted the guardrail and passed below it, coming to rest behind the barrier.
While the Manhattan parking garage collapse in early April was not blamed on EVs, the disaster nonetheless underscored an issue of growing concern: whether aging roads and old garages can handle all the extra weight.
Like all things liberal, common sense defies the case for EVs. For example, tire life on a Tesla is ridiculously low. That means roads are getting chopped up by these heavy torque machines, and as a bonus, more tires are getting discarded - great for the environment.
We're all going to pay for this nonsense.
So a 7000 pound Rivian is a danger but a 7000 pound Dodge Ram is a-okay?Many of us engineering inclined people worried about the impact on our infrastructure of vehicles that weight 30% or more than ICE vehicles. They are finally covering the problem -
A crash test performed on a guardrail on Oct. 12, 2023, highlighted the concern. At 60 mph, the 7,000-plus-pound, 2022 Rivian R1T truck tore through the barrier with little reduction in speed. In a separate test conducted in September, a 2018 Tesla Model 3 sedan lifted the guardrail and passed below it, coming to rest behind the barrier.
While the Manhattan parking garage collapse in early April was not blamed on EVs, the disaster nonetheless underscored an issue of growing concern: whether aging roads and old garages can handle all the extra weight.
Like all things liberal, common sense defies the case for EVs. For example, tire life on a Tesla is ridiculously low. That means roads are getting chopped up by these heavy torque machines, and as a bonus, more tires are getting discarded - great for the environment.
We're all going to pay for this nonsense.
A Tesla Model S weighs 4561 lbs.
A Chevy Suburban weighs 5824 lbs.
The Rivian may be an exceptionally heavy vehicle.
Rather than blaming all EVs, pass a weight limit for passenger vehicles. And maybe upgrade the roads and guardrails.
Especially on residential roads trucks aren't allowed onIf you don't think that replacing all ICE cars with EVs that the additional weight will not have an effect on the wear and tear of roads then you're even dumber than I thought. And that's really saying something.
This is true whether or not you are pro or anti EV
How much does a fully loaded Peterbuilt 53' trailer weigh vs a Prius?
I'm guessing the Peterbuilt (that has been on the road since the 60's) weighs more. Strange how suddenly the roads can't handle their weight.
www.energylivenews.com
www.forbes.com
Our infrastructure on traveling on roads is a century old and more. Anything built is based on how we travel. EV's if going to happen would have on its time. We have self-serving corrupted elites pushing it on us for their massive profits. With infrastructure that is going to take a long time to complete. So, we are putting the cart before the horse. With the removal of anything deemed a fossil fuel people in the winter cold areas are going to live in a clown show. You can see the costs of electricity is going to increase in a huge way. Electricity goes out in the house for a period of time, and we will be digging a lot of graves. In poor areas no kerosene or propane heaters there will be massive illegal electricity hook ups with direct electricity coming into those dwellings. Fires galore and many deaths from it including potentially firefighters with the wires running everywhere. These things need to be thought out.That is because the problem is not the weight of EVs. The problem is that some people do not want EVs and don't want anyone else to have them either.
The best selling vehicles in the U.S. for the past several decades have been full-sized pickup trucks, which typically weigh over 5,000 lbs.
Fully loaded Peterbilts aren't allowed in parking garages. They also aren't allowed on many roads.
Yesterday I saw a road with a 2 ton weight limit going into a subdivision behind a warehouse I was picking up at. Literally an EV would not be allowed on it but a Toyota Camry would.
There was a study done on this that shows that EV's actually cause twice the damage to roads as gas vehicles. I have a small concern with this study in that it was out of the UK, and they have very small gas vehicles, our gas cars are not THAT small. So I'm not sure if they cause twice the damage here, but they would damage the roads more, of course.
EVs cause twice the road damage of petrol vehicles, study reveals - Energy Live News
A new study shows EVs put 2.24 times more stress on roads than petrol vehicles, possibly worsening the UK's pothole crisis
Also, the increased weight of EV's mean car haulers have to haul less cars per load, meaning the cost will be kept higher and they have to make more trips, causing more damage to roads and burning more fossil fuels.
Council Post: Electric Vehicles And The Impact On Infrastructure
This overwhelming amount of added weight on our roads can directly cause more stress and may eventually result in the failure of our paved roads.
It looks like your study was done in the UK where the typical vehicle is much smaller than in the US. What's probably happening in the UK is their road maintenance is becoming more like the US maintenance schedules where Americans have been driving much heavier cars for decades.Fully loaded Peterbilts aren't allowed in parking garages. They also aren't allowed on many roads.
Yesterday I saw a road with a 2 ton weight limit going into a subdivision behind a warehouse I was picking up at. Literally an EV would not be allowed on it but a Toyota Camry would.
There was a study done on this that shows that EV's actually cause twice the damage to roads as gas vehicles. I have a small concern with this study in that it was out of the UK, and they have very small gas vehicles, our gas cars are not THAT small. So I'm not sure if they cause twice the damage here, but they would damage the roads more, of course.
EVs cause twice the road damage of petrol vehicles, study reveals - Energy Live News
A new study shows EVs put 2.24 times more stress on roads than petrol vehicles, possibly worsening the UK's pothole crisis
Also, the increased weight of EV's mean car haulers have to haul less cars per load, meaning the cost will be kept higher and they have to make more trips, causing more damage to roads and burning more fossil fuels.
Council Post: Electric Vehicles And The Impact On Infrastructure
This overwhelming amount of added weight on our roads can directly cause more stress and may eventually result in the failure of our paved roads.
The average EV weighs around 4,000 lbs. A lot of the best selling models in the US are pickup trucks that typically weigh 6000 to 7,000 lbs.
The best selling vehicle in the county is a Ford F series. Americans are obsessed with trucks that weigh just as much as any EV.Fully loaded Peterbilts aren't allowed in parking garages. They also aren't allowed on many roads.
Yesterday I saw a road with a 2 ton weight limit going into a subdivision behind a warehouse I was picking up at. Literally an EV would not be allowed on it but a Toyota Camry would.
There was a study done on this that shows that EV's actually cause twice the damage to roads as gas vehicles. I have a small concern with this study in that it was out of the UK, and they have very small gas vehicles, our gas cars are not THAT small. So I'm not sure if they cause twice the damage here, but they would damage the roads more, of course.
EVs cause twice the road damage of petrol vehicles, study reveals - Energy Live News
A new study shows EVs put 2.24 times more stress on roads than petrol vehicles, possibly worsening the UK's pothole crisis
Also, the increased weight of EV's mean car haulers have to haul less cars per load, meaning the cost will be kept higher and they have to make more trips, causing more damage to roads and burning more fossil fuels.
Council Post: Electric Vehicles And The Impact On Infrastructure
This overwhelming amount of added weight on our roads can directly cause more stress and may eventually result in the failure of our paved roads.
The best selling vehicle in the county is a Ford F series. Americans are obsessed with trucks that weigh just as much as any EV.
Until you guys start talking about the threat from trucks, this is nothing but political tribalism masquerading as concern-mongering.
