Rittenhouse ordered to stand trial

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Rittenhouse, by his own statement, did not go there to participate in the riot. He went there to help the business owners who were VICTIMS of the rioters. He was seen helping them clean up in fact. One off duty law enforcement officer was killed trying to help the business owners as well so, we can assume that being armed while helping was probably a good decision on Rittenhouse's part.

Right, by his own statements he is a vigilante. He confronted the protestors while armed with a rifle. He illegally possessed a weapon and traveled to another State to confront them illegally with his illegal weapon. He is charged with murder, because you don't get to make illegal, deadly threats and then claim "self defense" in shooting the people you threatened first, when they take your threat seriously and act on it. And the prosecutors feel they can convince a jury that this is what happened.

 

[tahuyaman]

It is a very dumb decision for a teenager with no training or experience to arm himself and participate in a violent riot. The smart thing to do would be to get out of there and return to the safety of your home which was not being threatened.

Rittenhouse, by his own statement, did not go there to participate in the riot. He went there to help the business owners who were VICTIMS of the rioters. He was seen helping them clean up in fact. One off duty law enforcement officer was killed trying to help the business owners as well so, we can assume that being armed while helping was probably a good decision on Rittenhouse's part.

But he did participate in the riot.

 

[Faun]

Wisconsin law says that if a person is under 18, and possess a dangerous weapon they are committing misdemeanor. Rittenhouse protected himself from rioters shooting at him and trying to beat him to death. Had he not been armed, he would most likely be dead today. These are facts jurors will have to consider in November.

Had he not been armed, Rosenbaum would likely not been chasing him to disarm him.

 

[Leo123]

But he did participate in the riot.

He did not. He was helping the victims by all accounts.

 

[Faun]

Carrying a rifle does not constitute a provocation in itself. Rittenhouse, by all accounts, was not running around randomly pointing or shooting his rifle. Part of the evidence will be the video that shows someone shooting in Rittenhouse's direction and the rioters that were descending upon him. The capacity of the rifle (how many bullets the magazine held) may be a point of law but has little to do with the incident because Rittenhouse only fired a few shots in self defense. As I said, he may be guilty of carrying a gun because he was under 18 but that is a misdemeanor in Wisconsin. IF Wisconsin has a magazine limit and he exceeded that, he may also be guilty of that but those are minimal infractions and do not constitute murder.

We don't know that yet. There were early reports that so.e in that crowd were pointing their guns at others. An eye witness said Rittenhouse was not handling his gun very well. Hopefully, the trial will find the truth of that.

 

[tahuyaman]

He did not. He was helping the victims by all accounts.

He absolutely was a participant.

 

[Faun]

False.
In each of the instances where he shot someone, he was being chased.
Whatever he may have done to provoke being chased, as soon as he disengaged - ran away - his right to in self-defense reset.
So says WI law.
Unless you believe the people chasing him had the right to harm him, you cannot help but agree.

You can’t provoke some into chasing you and then kill them.

 

[tahuyaman]

We need to discourage immature, untrained, inexperienced and possibly emotionally disturbed teenagers from arming themselves and acting as vigilantes. Nothing good happens from that.

 

[tahuyaman]

He did not. He was helping the victims by all accounts.

He participated in a riot. He was on one side and other idiots were on a different side. Had he made the smart decision and not participate, he would not be in all this trouble.

 

[justinacolmena]

I don't know why you assume cops, lawyers or judges would vote not guilty without listening to all of the evidence

Of course not. The system is guilty as charged until proven otherwise. And since the court never has all the evidence to exonerate the suspect, it's a forced confession collective bargaining plea agreement — the cops will go on strike and riot downtown if anyone disputes the automatic guilty verdict — and furthermore they take other measures outside the law for revenge if by some freak chance the suspect is exonerated in court.

 

[justinacolmena]

We need to discourage immature, untrained, inexperienced and possibly emotionally disturbed teenagers from arming themselves and acting as vigilantes. Nothing good happens from that.

You don't "discourage" people with guns.
You die the death for that, in the deadness of the letter of the law.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Of course not. The system is guilty as charged until proven otherwise. And since the court never has all the evidence to exonerate the suspect, it's a forced confession collective bargaining plea agreement — the cops will go on strike and riot downtown if anyone disputes the automatic guilty verdict — and furthermore they take other measures outside the law for revenge if by some freak chance the suspect is exonerated in court.

Wow...youre insane

 

[Leo123]

He participated in a riot. He was on one side and other idiots were on a different side. Had he made the smart decision and not participate, he would not be in all this trouble.

So, on 911, the police and firefighters HELPING folks were participating in terrorist activities? Come on....

 

[Leo123]

We need to discourage immature, untrained, inexperienced and possibly emotionally disturbed teenagers from arming themselves and acting as vigilantes. Nothing good happens from that.

Rittenhouse was not acting as a vigilante.....He was HELPING the victims!! How many times do you need to be told? Stop being dense.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Look. It is beyond any shadow of doubt that Rittenhouse was breaking the law in Wisconsin.


I don't know how anyone who claimes to be a proponant of law and order can condone or excuse Rittenhouse's actions. A conservative certainly can't.

He appears to have broken the prohibition of being a minor in possession of a firearm without adult supervision. He should be tried and if convicted of that, punished. However, from watching the available videos from start to finish, in my opinion his actions were clearly self-defense and he shouldn't be punished for them.

 

[Leo123]

He appears to have broken the prohibition of being a minor in possession of a firearm without adult supervision. He should be tried and if convicted of that, punished. However, from watching the available videos from start to finish, in my opinion his actions were clearly self-defense and he shouldn't be punished for them.

I told tahuyaman that in many ways over many posts. I even referenced Wisconsin law which Rittenhouse may have violated making him subject to a MISDEMEANOR. The rest was him protecting his own life. But, alas tahuyaman is a 'one trick pony' and dense as granite and, possible a lefty Bot with a programmed response.

 

[beautress]

Looks like Kyle is going to stand trial for his alleged crimes:

Kyle Rittenhouse, teen charged with killings at Jacob Blake protest, ordered to stand trial

Kyle Rittenhouse — the 17-year-old charged with killing two people during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, after the shooting of Jacob Blake — will stand trial on charges of felony homicide and other crimes, a court commissioner ruled Thursday.
During a preliminary hearing at Kenosha County Circuit Court, which was held via video link, commissioner Loren Keating ruled that there was enough evidence to send Rittenhouse to trial over the Aug. 25 killings of Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26.
Rittenhouse also faces charges of possession of a dangerous weapon while under the age of 18 and felony attempted homicide for injuring a third man, Gaige Grosskreutz.
Lawyers for Rittenhouse argued that the teen, who has been praised by right-wing commentators and viewed sympathetically by the Trump administration, had acted in self-defense when he opened fire.
But Keating said those arguments were issues for trial — not a preliminary hearing. The teen’s lawyers also asked Keating to dismiss two charges, including possession of a dangerous weapon, but the commissioner declined, saying that was also an issue for trial.
Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, was released on $2 million bond last month, money mostly raised by conservatives through a legal defense fund.

And in related news..the 19yo who posed as a straw buyer for Kyle's gun has been charged:

19-year-old charged with illegally supplying gun to Kyle Rittenhouse

The friend of Rittenhouse, 17, purchased the gun later used to allegedly fatally shoot two men in Kenosha, Wisconsin, prosecutors say.

www.nbcnews.com

Charges have been filed against a 19-year-old man who prosecutors allege purchased and supplied the gun used by 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse in the fatal shootings of two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Dominick Black, of Kenosha, faces two felony counts of intentionally giving a dangerous weapon to a minor, causing death, according to a criminal complaint filed in Kenosha County Circuit Court. If he's found guilty, he faces up to 6 years in prison per count.
According to the criminal complaint, Black enlisted the help of Rittenhouse in guarding the Kenosha car dealership Car Source from property damage and looting. The complaint stated Black “volunteered to go out after curfew” and “asked Mr. Rittenhouse to join him.”

In interviews, the owner of Car Source has denied requesting help from either Black or Rittenhouse in protecting his dealership during the protests.

Oh, I thought self defense was legal. When did the Democrats change the law to fit their narratives so they could be hanging Conservatives by the neck until dead, dead, dead.

 

[tahuyaman]

He appears to have broken the prohibition of being a minor in possession of a firearm without adult supervision. He should be tried and if convicted of that, punished. However, from watching the available videos from start to finish, in my opinion his actions were clearly self-defense and he shouldn't be punished for them.

He picked a fight he had no business picking.

 

[Leo123]

He picked a fight he had no business picking.

He picked no fight and, for the umteeth time, he was HELPING THE VICTIMS!!! God, read something, watch the videos, you're really revealing how ignorant you are.

"when Rittenhouse finished his shift as a lifeguard in Kenosha last Tuesday, he decided he wanted to help clean up damage in Kenosha left amid unrest over the police shooting of Jacob Blake."

"He and a friend went to a local high school to remove graffiti, according to Pierce. Later that day, they received information about a call for help from a local business owner, whose downtown Kenosha auto dealership was largely destroyed, Pierce says. The business owner said he needed help defending his business."

'several times, protesters threatened and taunted Rittenhouse, but he never reacted. "His intent was not to incite violence, but simply to deter property damage and use his training to provide first aid to injured community members, according to the attorneys. '
Attorneys representing Kyle Rittenhouse say he was wrongfully charged after 'acting in self-defense'

 

[Leo123]

Oh, I thought self defense was legal. When did the Democrats change the law to fit their narratives so they could be hanging Conservatives by the neck until dead, dead, dead.

Law means nothing to the Marxist Democrats today.