Rittenhouse jury just went to deliberate

[JohnDB]

There likely are other exceptions, like in a self defense emergency, where a juvenile could grab a shotgun over the mantle.
But this had no aspect of self defense because Rittenhouse was going 20 miles out of his way to put himself into this potentially dangerous situation.
Clearly that prevents any self defense claim or any rational that would allow for him to carry a rifle as a minor.

Legal technicalities aside...

This is a travesty.

The citizens either have our constitutional rights or we don't...
Either EVERYONE has them or no one has them.

Kyle himself isn't as relevant as the constitutional rights he has that they are destroying by going after him...

Because it's him today but it's you tomorrow.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The people who's lives are being ruined, by the property destruction might strongly disagree.

Tough shit. Lives...ruined? Not compared to a war between citizens and police. Andwe agree they have a grievance. Not enough to put out a hit on anyone, though.

 

[Correll]

Causing the confrontation does mean you lose the right to claim self defense.

Just being there, with a rifle, is not "causing" a confrontation.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The riots are anti-white race riots.

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If we cut all the bullshit, this is not false.

 

[DrLove]

Your side has a lot of nerve considering what you have done for decades. This isn't new. You are just mad that we have had enough of it.

We’ve had plenty enough of your ilk also Loony Bird.
Go fix yourself - Chop Chop!

 

[JohnDB]

Causing the confrontation does mean you lose the right to claim self defense.

Unless you withdraw.
Meaning run away...just like Kyle did.

That's why everyone (including the judge and prosecutor) is talking about perfect self defense because they recognize it as such.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just being there, with a rifle, is not "causing" a confrontation.

Still it is escalation, and an implied threat. You are basically just going to a place where Rosenbaum, Grosskreutz, and Huber also all had rifles and Kyle's brain is a stain on a street in Kenosha. That isn't what we want.

Furthermore, none of them had "the right" to be there, by the special curfew. And even without the special curfew, Kyle would have been violating the curfew for his age, I believe. So no, he really did not have "the right" to be there.

 

[tahuyaman]

I have friends who worked in Seattle; they said it's s ProgBot's wet dream, no to mention dreary.
The problem sets in when Democrat politicians stop law enforcement from performing their duties.
I suggest you walk through the next riot to see how it actually feels to be helpless.
I know lots of guys who can handle themselves quite well in such a situation and who also want to help the helpless.

Ok. Whatever. Don’t move here

Why in the world would it be smart to walk through a violent riot to prove a point? That’s something an idiot would do.

 

[Correll]

Tough shit. Lives...ruined? Not compared to a war between citizens and police. Andwe agree they have a grievance. Not enough to put out a hit on anyone, though.

Yes, compared to a war between citizens and police. If all it takes for a civil war, is that a mob is not allowed to rampage and destroy, then we have a population of "citizens" that are going to be a problem, sooner rather than later. Sac-ing people lives, is not thee answer.

 

[eagle1462010]

We’ve had plenty enough of your ilk also Loony Bird.
Go fix yourself - Chop Chop!

Really. You have. Whats the matter you don't like it when people call your pathetic tactics and party out.

Too dang bad.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If all it takes for a civil war

You overstate my.meaning. I mean even just 50 protestors and 10 cops. Or 100cops and 1 thousand protestors. A local event. Please reread with that considered.

This is why police should and do use restraint, in some of these situations.

And I really shouldn't have to explain that anyway, right?

 

[Correll]

Still it is escalation, and an implied threat. You are basically just going to a place where Rosenbaum, Grosskreutz, and Huber also all had rifles and Kyle's brain is a stain on a street in Kenosha. That isn't what we want.

Furthermore, none of them had "the right" to be there, by the special curfew. And even without the special curfew, Kyle would have been violating the curfew for his age. So no, he really did not have "the right" to be there.

THe curfew is irrelevant. It was not being enforced. Expecting law abiding citizens to follow the letter of the law, while letting barbarians rampage though the streets AND NEVER CALLING THEM ON IT, is not a society that can last.


If the choice is escalation or allowing the dems brown shirt mobs to rule the streets, escalation is the obviously better choice.

 

[candycorn]

Not relevant...
Sam's properties were 3. And he was invited to all three.

Except it blows the whole "inviting a friend to the house" nonsense out of the water.

A curfew does not negate your constitutional rights no matter how much you want them to be violated.

A curfew does prohibit people from being in curfew areas

Try a different tactic because this one is flushed.

Kyle was not in curfew violation.

Yes he was.

Kyle was not in violation of the gun laws.

That was thrown out

He is charged with 1st degree homicide and 1st degree reckless homicide.

The 5counts are worthy of capital punishment.

Lets hope it not come to that. But a lengthy stay in prison is warranted for pop and fresh.

 

[Indeependent]

Ok. Whatever. Don’t move here

Why in the world would it be smart to walk through a violent riot to prove a point? That’s something an idiot would do.

Different strokes for different folks.
People in NYC are terrified because they are not in a suburb behind a gate.
Just admit you're a neo-Con.

 

[JohnDB]

THe curfew is irrelevant. It was not being enforced. Expecting law abiding citizens to follow the letter of the law, while letting barbarians rampage though the streets AND NEVER CALLING THEM ON IT, is not a society that can last.


If the choice is escalation or allowing the dems brown shirt mobs to rule the streets, escalation is the obviously better choice.

Curfew is not relevant because Kyle was invited and staying on the property he was invited to protect.

Basic assembly rights are not negated by a curfew. Ever!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

THe curfew is irrelevant.

To someone's right to be there? Uh, no. Like plenty of minors before him, Kyle could have been picked up for curfew at one minute past time. Buuut he wasn't. Not the same as having "the right" to do it.

 

[tahuyaman]

You finally know the degree of kookery in this forum. These are NOT normal conservatives. Good on ya

This forum is basically a troll farm. I’ve seen two or three members who can actually engage in a discussion and present opposing views.

 

[Correll]

You overstate my.meaning. I mean even just 50 protestors and 10 cops. Or 100cops and 1 thousand protestors. A local event. Please reread with that considered.

You said "war" and you are not the first to use such language. Considering that we have elected officials siding with violent mobs rioting in teh streets and arresting people for defending themselves...


I think your statement was fine as it was. Yes, this is a dark path. Not one I choose. Not one I support.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

because Kyle was invited and staying on the property he was invited to protect.

Apparently he was not. And he also was not only on that property, so that's a very weak try.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

This forum is basically a troll farm. I’ve seen two or three members who can actually engage in a discussion and present opposing views.

Drlove isnt one of them.