Rittenhouse jury just went to deliberate

[Rigby5]

Saying he should have stayed out of it is a bit short sighted. No one ever says "the rioters should have stayed home" they only say he should have stayed home.

Everyone says the kid who wanted to help and ended up having to defend himself should stay home, but no one tells the rioting pieces of shit that were the reason he was trying to help to stay home.

That's a fucked up point of view. And it's the reason rioters, arsonists and thieves run around unchecked because Americans only get upset when someone gets in their way.

The rioters were at home and not from another state like Rittenhouse.
You are also wrong because the rioting was not only warranted, but an absolute necessity.
Just like the Boston Tea Party was in 1776.
When authoritarian police states murder or shoot innocent people with impunity, then you MUST riot or you are one of those complicit with murder.

 

[DrLove]

Your weird Biden fetishes aside...how would a foreign entity pry info from the Kenosha police? Wat?

Right? That sounded like a goofy Rudy & Sid argument. You know, the German server flipping votes from Trump to Biden and how Gina Haspel was being held hostage

 

[Correll]

Control of the language aspect? WTH is that supposed to mean? Quit trying to blame me because I point out the stupid shit, you say, dumb ass. Your claim that I support burning is absurd, but I know your arsenal is almost empty, and all you had left was either that or a 'BUT HILLARY" claim.

I was just steering the discussion back to the reality of the situation, and away from your word games.


You do support the rioters and the riots. You singularly and you plural as in your side.


That is why Rittenhouse is being charged, when his case is clearly one of pure self defense.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Actually, what I want is for the ******* police to be ordered to clear the ******* streets.

Hey, I get that. Don't really disagree. But it isn't so simple. Sometimes not escalating it is the correct situation. I am not suggesting anyone get away with arson on a building, for example. Arrest them. If there are people in the building, charge the arsonist with attempted murder.

But police do have to make decisions sometimes about whether escalation is the correct solution. The sun always comes up the next day. Sure, we could have sent militarized police into LA to murder everyone in the streets during the King riots. But would that have been smart? What about the next day? War with the populace?

Anyhow, the Kenosha police were pretty much in control that night. They moved the protestors where they wanted them. Unfortunately, it turns out that it was into the arms of waiting militia cosplayers. And that was intentional, and we both know it was. That is a example of escalation. And it escalated. Which should have surprised nobody. Really poor job by the cops, coordinating with those freaks.

 

[Rigby5]

You were talking about who is responsible. THe rioters are teh ones that decided to initiate violence. They are the ones most directly responsible for what happened.


Yet, you make no mention of them.


You know, one of the three guys shot, was talking shit about Rittenhouse, like you are right now.


He was proven, very, very wrong.

Wrong.
In a democratic republic, rioting is require social responsibility when police shoot innocent people.
It is those who do not riot who are the guilty and they encourage an authoritarian police state.

For example, clearly the War on Drugs, asset forfeiture, sentence mandates, etc. are completely and entirely illegal and should not be tolerated in a democratic republic.

 

[BULLDOG]

I was just steering the discussion back to the reality of the situation, and away from your word games.


You do support the rioters and the riots. You singularly and you plural as in your side.


That is why Rittenhouse is being charged, when his case is clearly one of pure self defense.

You were tapdancing to try to cover the stupid remarks you already made. Check with Tucker to see if he has anything to add, dumb ass.

 

[Correll]

Hey, I get that. Don't really disagree. But it isn't so simple. Sometimes not escalating it is the correct situation. I am not suggesting anyone get away with arson, for example. Arrest them. If there are people in the building, charge the arsonist with attempted murder.

But police do have to make decisions sometimes about whether escalation is the correct solution. The sun always comes up the next day. Sure, we could have sent militarized police into LA to murder everyone in the streets during the King riots. But would that have been smart? What about the next day? War with the populace?

Anyhow, the Kenosha pice were pretty much 8n contr that night. They moved the protestors where they wanted them. Unfortunately, it turns out that it was into the arms of waiting militia csplayers. And that was intentional, and we both know it was. That is a example of escalation. And it escalated. Which should have surprised nobody.

The correct response for hte last 6 years would have been to arrest ANYONE showing up to a "protest" wearing a ******* mask, or blocking traffic.


That would have settled shit right down.

Also, the FBI should have been infiltrating Antifa as aggressively as they did the militias post Oklahoma City. With an eye to finding out who is funding them, and/or organizing and directing them. And arresting them with heavy charges brought.


Instead, dems supported them, with varying degrees of openness.

 

[Rigby5]

You didn't include the infamous hunting laws which also apply and have more laws.

There likely are other exceptions, like in a self defense emergency, where a juvenile could grab a shotgun over the mantle.
But this had no aspect of self defense because Rittenhouse was going 20 miles out of his way to put himself into this potentially dangerous situation.
Clearly that prevents any self defense claim or any rational that would allow for him to carry a rifle as a minor.

 

[Correll]

Wrong.
In a democratic republic, rioting is require social responsibility when police shoot innocent people.
It is those who do not riot who are the guilty and they encourage an authoritarian police state.

For example, clearly the War on Drugs, asset forfeiture, sentence mandates, etc. are completely and entirely illegal and should not be tolerated in a democratic republic.

The vast majority of the supposed "innocents" shot, were anything but.

These have been anti-white race riots led by marxists with an eye to co-opting the racist hate for political purposes.

 

[DrLove]

I have friends who worked in Seattle; they said it's s ProgBot's wet dream, no to mention dreary.
The problem sets in when Democrat politicians stop law enforcement from performing their duties.
I suggest you walk through the next riot to see how it actually feels to be helpless.
I know lots of guys who can handle themselves quite well in such a situation and who also want to help the helpless.

Sorry nope dope. Rational people don’t grab their AK’s & wander into obvious conflict zones. They stay the **** home.

PS: Both Seattle and Portland are beautiful cities, but you’d never know that peering in from your Gooberville bubble.

 

[eagle1462010]

Sorry nope dope. Rational people don’t grab their AK’s & wander into obvious conflict zones. They stay the **** home.

Sorry nope dope. Rational people don't grab gas cans and matches and wander into neighborhoods setting places on fire. They stay the **** home.

There. Fixed it for you.

 

[jc456]

No, you violent un-American pile of crap., we have police for that. We don't need your cosplay militia princess heroes.

Why didn’t they then? 2.5 million in damages at one location and you make that comment! He’s right it’s fkwads like you ruining everything American!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You were talking about who is responsible.

Yep! Riots and protests will always happen. If we can't do better than what happened in Kenosha, that is the fault of the police first, iMO. And ultimately our fault. All of us.

I blame the rioters for rioting. And the firebugs for the dumpster fires. In Kenosha, I blame the police for how it turned out.

I don't even need anyone's head. A simple: "We fucked up. We won't coordinate with the vigilantes and militia next time (but I repeat myself). And don't bring guns. " would mean a lot.

 

[DrLove]

Sorry nope dope. Rational people don't grab gas cans and matches and wander into neighborhoods setting places on fire. They stay the **** home.

There. Fixed it for you.

Fix yourself prior to a vain attempt to fix anyone else.

 

[Rigby5]

The correct response for hte last 6 years would have been to arrest ANYONE showing up to a "protest" wearing a ******* mask, or blocking traffic.


That would have settled shit right down.

Also, the FBI should have been infiltrating Antifa as aggressively as they did the militias post Oklahoma City. With an eye to finding out who is funding them, and/or organizing and directing them. And arresting them with heavy charges brought.


Instead, dems supported them, with varying degrees of openness.

Wrong.
Protests and even rioting is protected political expression when the grievance against the government is sufficient.
And when the government commits murder, than any and all actions by the population are warranted.
It then becomes legal to burn the police stations to the ground and killed every single police officer, if necessary.
You clearly do not understand law.
Law applies against police as well, and when police commit crimes and resist arrest, they must be killed and it is legal.
What you seem to fail to understand, is that when police violate the law by murdering someone, then it is the police who are the illegal rioters.
Then those protesting become the legal vigilantes carrying out justice.
Police are not the law, only our agents when they follow what we say.
When they do not, then they must be arrested or killed.

 

[Indeependent]

Sorry nope dope. Rational people don’t grab their AK’s & wander into obvious conflict zones. They stay the **** home.

PS: Both Seattle and Portland are beautiful cities, but you’d never know that peering in from your Gooberville bubble.

Because your way has worked out real well, hasn't it?
I already realized you live in a beautiful, protected area...snob.

 

[Correll]

You were tapdancing to try to cover the stupid remarks you already made. Check with Tucker to see if he has anything to add, dumb ass.

Just keeping it real. You side with the rioters, and I side with those that fight them, in defense of my society.

 

[Correll]

There likely are other exceptions, like in a self defense emergency, where a juvenile could grab a shotgun over the mantle.
But this had no aspect of self defense because Rittenhouse was going 20 miles out of his way to put himself into this potentially dangerous situation.
Clearly that prevents any self defense claim or any rational that would allow for him to carry a rifle as a minor.

Travelling twenty miles, or a thousand, before you are attacked, does not mean you lose the right to self defense.

 

[Rigby5]

He can it, he just can't buy it. Like underage car buying---a kid can own a car, but can't get registered and insured.

According to WI law. he also can not possess a firearm without being under the supervision of an adult, at a range or hunting ground.

 

[Correll]

Yep! Riots and protests will always happen. If we can't do better than what happened in Kenosha, that is the fault of the police first, iMO. And ultimately our fault. All of us.

I blame the rioters for rioting. And the firebugs for the dumpster fires. In Kenosha, I blame the police for how it turned out.

I don't even need anyone's head. A simple: "We fucked up. We won't coordinate with the vigilantes and militia next time (but I repeat myself). And don't bring guns. " would mean a lot.

Riots will not always happen. And while blaming those who professional responsibility is to deal with them is called for,

not at the cost of letting the actual rioters off the hook for their actions.