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[Flanders]

The reasons for repealing the XVI Amendment are endless; none more important than this:

Another reminder why you should not give money to universities.​

Climate change fascism
By Matthew Vadum
September 29, 2016

Climate change fascism​

Without the XVI Amendment every freak would have to finance their cause with voluntary donations, or pay for it out of their own pockets. Try to imagine every political parasite that lives on income tax revenues being driven away from the public trough.

http://canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/vadum092916.jpg

Parenthetically, I cannot dispute Matthew Vadum’s “Rallying Cry of Fascism” flag, but I would be a lot happier with the “Rallying Cry of Communism” flag:

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mecb30a156f800f2fbaf893c5558d8228o0&pid=Api

The EPA is a United Nations agency, but it was environmental claptrap that attracted every displaced Communist in the world after the Soviet Union imploded long after the EPA was created.

Communism and the UN were always one and the same, but Communists flocked to the United Nations after the Soviet Union imploded because of the environmental movement. It is fair to say that the United Nations is the environmental movement.​

Ruling Classes Collectively

p.s. This flag identifies every freak regardless of the cause.

TOTALITARIAN FLAG​

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M9c05e74ed9fe6bcb5bdb9bf14c685082o0&pid=Api&w=255&h=181

 

[Flanders]

Without the XVI Amendment every freak would have to finance their cause with voluntary donations, or pay for it out of their own pockets.

And Hollywood parasites should be banned from receiving tax dollars:

DiCaprio: Climate Change Deniers Should Be Banned From Public Office
by James Delingpole
4 Oct 2016

DiCaprio: Climate Deniers Should Be Banned From Public Office​

 

[Crick]

Would you really like to see that in the Constitution? Hollywood parasites? How exactly would that be defined? And, while we're there, what tax dollars has Leonardo DiCaprio received?

 

[Flanders]

To Crick: I am not certain if you came out from under your rock to defend environmental scams or Hollywood parasites. No matter.

Would you really like to see that in the Constitution?

To Crick: It is since the XVI Amendment was never ratified:

First Amendment​

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.​

Just to be on the safe side repealing the XVI Amendment as though it had been ratified would automatically reaffirm the First Amendment as well as reaffirm the Original Bill of Rights.

The history of a tax on income is complicated, but the guiding principle is simple. Tax revenues should only be spent on necessary government allowed by the Constitution ——as it was written —— before Supreme Court justices began writing legislation in their rulings.

Put it this way, every entity that takes in money should pay the same percentage of their revenues. That means every charity, every religion, every corporation, every private sector business would pay the same percentage of their revenues and no deductions allowed.

Hollywood parasites? How exactly would that be defined?

To Crick: Tax dollar subsidies and a favorable tax code.

Indeed, there are parasites on every economic level of society; hence, parasite is defined by anybody whose majority income is derived from income tax dollars. Repeal the XVI Amendment and the parasite class will disappear because responsible legislators would never let parasites loot government revenues necessary to run essential —— limited —— government.

Parasites include government employees who are not necessary to government; “employees” in unnecessary and bloated bureaucracies for example.

And, while we're there, what tax dollars has Leonardo DiCaprio received?

To Crick: A huge income paid by taxpayers.

 

[Crick]

Would you really like to see that in the Constitution?

To Crick: It is since the XVI Amendment was never ratified:

The 16th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified and adopted on February 3rd, 1913.

The Constitution spells out the procedure by which it may be amended and that procedure has never been violated. Thus you cannot bring up the original as an argument against any current amendment. The latest 'version' of our Constitution IS the Constitution.

Hollywood parasites? How exactly would that be defined?

To Crick: Tax dollar subsidies and a favorable tax code.

That does not answer the question.

Indeed, there are parasites on every economic level of society; hence, parasite is defined by anybody whose majority income is derived from income tax dollars. Repeal the XVI Amendment and the parasite class will disappear because responsible legislators would never let parasites loot government revenues necessary to run essential —— limited —— government.

Fine. If you want to repeal the 16th Amendment, start gathering signatures. But, I'm beginning to wonder what this has to do with the environment.

Parasites include government employees who are not necessary to government; “employees” in unnecessary and bloated bureaucracies for example.

And who would determine which weren't necessary to government, which bureaucracies were unnecessary? Let me guess: you?

And, while we're there, what tax dollars has Leonardo DiCaprio received?

To Crick: A huge income paid by taxpayers.

What huge income paid by taxpayers?

Do you realize your true/false ratio for these posts is statistically indiscernible from zero.

 

[Flanders]

The 16th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified and adopted on February 3rd, 1913.

The Constitution spells out the procedure by which it may be amended and that procedure has never been violated. Thus you cannot bring up the original as an argument against any current amendment. The latest 'version' of our Constitution IS the Constitution.

To Crick: See this thread and this article:

. . . 17,000 court certified documents that prove beyond any doubt that the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was never ratified.

Checkmate
Published: 11/18/2005 at 1:00 AM
DEVVY KIDD

Checkmate

http://www.usmessageboard.com/congress/294117-the-xvi-amendment-and-the-irs.html​

Fine. If you want to repeal the 16th Amendment, start gathering signatures.

To Crick: Did you forget that it was I who taught you about the amendment process:

To Crick: Your clever little combination of T.J. quotes was unnecessary. Of the many, many, things T.J. said he did recognize the need for a mechanism to amend the Constitution:​

Let us go on perfecting the Constitution by adding, by way of amendment, those forms which time and trial show are still wanting. Thomas Jefferson

XXXXX​

Whatever be the Constitution, great care must be taken to provide a mode of amendment when experience or change of circumstances shall have manifested that any part of it is unadapted to the good of the nation. In some of our States it requires a new authority from the whole people, acting by their representatives, chosen for this express purpose, and assembled in convention. This is found too difficult for remedying the imperfections which experience develops from time to time in an organization of the first impression. A greater facility of amendment is certainly requisite to maintain it in a course of action accommodated to the times and changes through which we are ever passing. Thomas Jefferson​

There is no way in hell Americans, or T.J., meant the Constitution should be amended to give parasites access to the public purse so they could fund a welfare state, yet that is exactly what Democrats did to the country without passing one constitutional amendment.

Amending the Constitution is the only say Americans have in the laws they live under. The fact is: Socialists know that they cannot implement their ideology by amending the Constitution; so they do it through the Courts, and with unconstitutional legislation. That has not been working out of late; so Taqiyya the Liar amends the Constitution unilaterally with EOs, bureaucratic regulations, or simply not enforcing laws he disagrees with. He goes so far as pervert his oath of office:​

US Constitution, Article II,​

Section 1
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.​

Taqiyya faithfully executes the New World Order’s anti-America sovereignty agenda. When he is called out on it he says he is faithfully executing the office of president. The only way to cut through his doublespeak is to think 1984: “War is peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is strength.”​

You must have forgotten this, too:

Parenthetically, the XVI and XVII Amendments were not ratified according to many. Regardless of the evidence this never went anywhere but it’s worth mentioning:​

On Thursday, Jan. 18, Bill Benson of Illinois filed suit in the Oklahoma County District Court to secure a judicial determination that the second Oklahoma Legislature didn't ratify the Sixteenth Amendment as Congress proposed it in 1909 and as it appears in the U.S. Constitution today. At a meeting held subsequent to the Capitol rally, Oklahoma citizens charted a course to promote a resolution that will be presented for consideration of the current Oklahoma Legislature.

Benson will shortly file a parallel suit in California then a third in Kentucky or Tennessee. The theory is that if three of the 38 states that allegedly ratified the Sixteenth Amendment in 1913 or before confirm that legislatures of their respective states did not ratify the Sixteenth Amendment, the so-called income tax amendment will be left in the lurch. In 1984, Benson secured documents from capitols of the 48 states that participated in the ratification process. The documents prove that very few of the state legislatures that allegedly endorsed the Sixteenth Amendment between 1909 and 1913 actually approved it.

According to Devvy Kidd, spokesman for The Wallace Institute, initiatives relating to the Seventeenth Amendment will follow shortly on the heels of the Sixteenth Amendment initiative. Under the original Constitution, U.S. Senators were elected by state legislatures. The Seventeenth Amendment changed the process by switching the Senate to direct electoral process by the people, thereby nullifying state representation in Congress and opening the door to what Kidd described as a raft of treaties that in the last century compromised American sovereignty and solvency. Benson documented Seventeenth Amendment irregularities simultaneous with his Sixteenth Amendment research.

Subject: SIXTEENTH AMENDMENT RALLY The Income Tax is Illegal.

SIXTEENTH AMENDMENT RALLY​

Finally, on the one hand Democrats invented a living Constitution while they scream “settled law” out of the other side of their hypocritical mouths. Example: Roe v. Wade is settled law after a mere 40 years, while more than 40,000 gun control laws say the Second Amendment is not settled law after more than two centuries. Hell, Democrats cannot repeal an amendment they don’t like let alone get one ratified.

Bottom line: Settled law is obviously not a living thing, yet it is not subject to repeal like laws or constitutional amendments if you believe Democrats.​

Palaces & Packing Crates

And who would determine which weren't necessary to government, which bureaucracies were unnecessary? Let me guess: you?

To Crick: Necessary government is enumerated in the Constitution. If it is not there it is unconstitutional.

What huge income paid by taxpayers?

To Crick: Pay attention:

1. The movie industry is a component of the Democrat party’s media-education-entertainment complex.

2. Unlike television that is funded by tax deductible advertising dollars the movie industry has to be subsidized in order to survive. It is absurd to deny that big stars get their huge salaries from subsidies while everything else is paid for by subsidies. Ask yourself who in their right would invest in an industry that died a long time ago?

3. The customer base for movie theaters is the best kept secret in Hollywood. After years analyzing ticket sales, etc. I place the number at somewhere between 8 and 15 percent of the adult population.

4. Subsidies include keeping movie theaters open. New movies are produced in order to stock the shelves of movie theaters. It will not be long before movie theaters disappear entirely. A generation ot two at most. Even then, subsides will continue to pay for the other aspects of the entertainment leg of the complex.

There is a lot more on the topic, but you have enough to go on to do your own research. Your talking points should at least be well-informed so you sound half-ass intelligent.

 

[Crick]

I was taught about the Constitution's amendment process in an American Government class 47 years ago. You've never taught me a goddamned thing. Ever.

 

[Flanders]

You've never taught me a goddamned thing.

To Crick: My mistake. You are too goddamned stupid to learn anything.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The reasons for repealing the XVI Amendment are endless; none more important than this:

Another reminder why you should not give money to universities.​

Climate change fascism
By Matthew Vadum
September 29, 2016

Climate change fascism​

Without the XVI Amendment every freak would have to finance their cause with voluntary donations, or pay for it out of their own pockets. Try to imagine every political parasite that lives on income tax revenues being driven away from the public trough.

http://canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/vadum092916.jpg

Parenthetically, I cannot dispute Matthew Vadum’s “Rallying Cry of Fascism” flag, but I would be a lot happier with the “Rallying Cry of Communism” flag:

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mecb30a156f800f2fbaf893c5558d8228o0&pid=Api

The EPA is a United Nations agency, but it was environmental claptrap that attracted every displaced Communist in the world after the Soviet Union imploded long after the EPA was created.

Communism and the UN were always one and the same, but Communists flocked to the United Nations after the Soviet Union imploded because of the environmental movement. It is fair to say that the United Nations is the environmental movement.​

Ruling Classes Collectively

p.s. This flag identifies every freak regardless of the cause.

TOTALITARIAN FLAG​

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M9c05e74ed9fe6bcb5bdb9bf14c685082o0&pid=Api&w=255&h=181

Down with education, you don't need education to work in McDonalds, only the rich need to be educated because only they need to think, everyone else should be working hard to make the rich richer.

 

[Flanders]

Down with education, you don't need education to work in McDonalds, only the rich need to be educated because only they need to think, everyone else should be working hard to make the rich richer.

To frigidweirdo: You are confusing brainwashing with wisdom. “Free” public education is designed to be an employment agency for corporations and government “service.” The unworthy are culled out AFTER THEY GRADUATE.

Corporations should pay for their own training programs. Go to a trade school if you want a higher income and pay for it yourself. The federal government has no constitutional authority to be in the education business, and certainly no authority to pay parasite teachers tax dollars to teach young people how to be parasites.

Bottom line: Aside from an unnecessary government job, a tax dollar job in subsidized industries is the only employment the education industry can create. Example: Heavily subsidized alternative energy companies.

My point: Deny parasites the tax dollars required to teach more parasites how to get tax dollar jobs and the education industry will implode overnight. If the organized religion of your choice did the same thing with coerced tax dollars there would soon be a violent revolution putting an end that particular brand of indoctrination.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Down with education, you don't need education to work in McDonalds, only the rich need to be educated because only they need to think, everyone else should be working hard to make the rich richer.

To frigidweirdo: You are confusing brainwashing with wisdom. “Free” public education is designed to be an employment agency for corporations and government “service.” The unworthy are culled out AFTER THEY GRADUATE.

Corporations should pay for their own training programs. Go to a trade school if you want a higher income and pay for it yourself. The federal government has no constitutional authority to be in the education business, and certainly no authority to pay parasite teachers tax dollars to teach young people how to be parasites.

Bottom line: Aside from an unnecessary government job, a tax dollar job in subsidized industries is the only employment the education industry can create. Example: Heavily subsidized alternative energy companies.

My point: Deny parasites the tax dollars required to teach more parasites how to get tax dollar jobs and the education industry will implode overnight. If the organized religion of your choice did the same thing with coerced tax dollars there would soon be a violent revolution putting an end that particular brand of indoctrination.

Let's just say you're wrong, and such an attitude is the sort of attitude that will lead to America's demise.

 

[Flanders]

Let's just say you're wrong, and such an attitude is the sort of attitude that will lead to America's demise.

To frigidweirdo: You and your kind are amazing. In spite of all of the evidence that proves the rate of America’s decline has been rapidly increasing since 1913 you still think the parasite class made this country better.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Let's just say you're wrong, and such an attitude is the sort of attitude that will lead to America's demise.

To frigidweirdo: You and your kind are amazing. In spite of all of the evidence that proves the rate of America’s decline has been rapidly increasing since 1913 you still think the parasite class made this country better.

I think the problem is you simply don't understand why I think this, and I doubt you'd listen either.

 

[Flanders]

I think the problem is you simply don't understand why I think this, and I doubt you'd listen either.

To frigidweirdo: Listening is not believing. And just for your edification, I sure as hell do not listen to Socialism’s collectivist garbage.

Democrat party strategy forces the audience to listen to the liberal message whether it be environmental crapola or any other piece of Socialism’s ideology. The problem for Democrats is that radio and television audiences are not captive audiences as are students in the education system.

Today, the major stumbling block for Democrats is this: The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech, it does not guarantee listeners.

There is no doubt Democrats pray that radio and TV audiences will voluntarily listen to Big Brother’s “message(s).” Even when the Fairness Doctrine was enforced the track record shows that audiences refused to listen. Democrats know that; so their political philosophy was shifted to punishing politically incorrect speech when they lost the Fairness Doctrine: “If you will not listen to our message you cannot listen to our opposites.”

In short: Public Radio & Public Television cannot force people to listen, but the government can, and does, force the public to pay for the microphone.

p.s. Should the Fairness Doctrine ever be reinstated it should apply to television’s entertainment shows, too. Opponents of every piece of liberal crap dialogue said by the characters in every show should get equal time to respond on the shows that violate the Doctrine.

 

[Crick]

Flanders, still wondering what any of this has to do with the Environment?

 

[flacaltenn]

The reasons for repealing the XVI Amendment are endless; none more important than this:

Another reminder why you should not give money to universities.​

Climate change fascism
By Matthew Vadum
September 29, 2016

Climate change fascism​

Without the XVI Amendment every freak would have to finance their cause with voluntary donations, or pay for it out of their own pockets. Try to imagine every political parasite that lives on income tax revenues being driven away from the public trough.

http://canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/vadum092916.jpg

Parenthetically, I cannot dispute Matthew Vadum’s “Rallying Cry of Fascism” flag, but I would be a lot happier with the “Rallying Cry of Communism” flag:

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mecb30a156f800f2fbaf893c5558d8228o0&pid=Api

The EPA is a United Nations agency, but it was environmental claptrap that attracted every displaced Communist in the world after the Soviet Union imploded long after the EPA was created.

Communism and the UN were always one and the same, but Communists flocked to the United Nations after the Soviet Union imploded because of the environmental movement. It is fair to say that the United Nations is the environmental movement.​

Ruling Classes Collectively

p.s. This flag identifies every freak regardless of the cause.

TOTALITARIAN FLAG​

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M9c05e74ed9fe6bcb5bdb9bf14c685082o0&pid=Api&w=255&h=181

Down with education, you don't need education to work in McDonalds, only the rich need to be educated because only they need to think, everyone else should be working hard to make the rich richer.

Income tax is a very small contributor to classroom education. And with the Unfunded Mandate strings that come with any Federal money, the states and locals that DO fund the bulk of education, end up LOSING money in the taking of Fed funds.

It is VERY important to end Corporate/Govt collusion. And the BULK of that collusion lately has been MASSIVE giveaways for presumably "green" things. Bernie Sanders acts like he doesn't know why "GE pays no Fed taxes". But he DOES know. He's pulling your leg. GE pays no Fed Taxes because they get a $50 or $75 Tax CREDIT (not a deduction, but an actual CREDIT) for every fucking large "energy appliance" that they sell.

NOTHING like a washer/dryer or dishwasher should be Federally subsidized. EVER... Needs to end. Because every Congress critter has their favorite causes to "fund". And the Enviro would be MUCH HAPPIER without the massive corp/govt collusion that we are allowing..

 

[flacaltenn]

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[frigidweirdo]

I think the problem is you simply don't understand why I think this, and I doubt you'd listen either.

To frigidweirdo: Listening is not believing. And just for your edification, I sure as hell do not listen to Socialism’s collectivist garbage.

Democrat party strategy forces the audience to listen to the liberal message whether it be environmental crapola or any other piece of Socialism’s ideology. The problem for Democrats is that radio and television audiences are not captive audiences as are students in the education system.

Today, the major stumbling block for Democrats is this: The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech, it does not guarantee listeners.

There is no doubt Democrats pray that radio and TV audiences will voluntarily listen to Big Brother’s “message(s).” Even when the Fairness Doctrine was enforced the track record shows that audiences refused to listen. Democrats know that; so their political philosophy was shifted to punishing politically incorrect speech when they lost the Fairness Doctrine: “If you will not listen to our message you cannot listen to our opposites.”

In short: Public Radio & Public Television cannot force people to listen, but the government can, and does, force the public to pay for the microphone.

p.s. Should the Fairness Doctrine ever be reinstated it should apply to television’s entertainment shows, too. Opponents of every piece of liberal crap dialogue said by the characters in every show should get equal time to respond on the shows that violate the Doctrine.

Are you trying to make an argument that you are right simply because you just make stuff up and don't care about the facts etc? It's a little hard to make out what you're trying to do.

It's funny how the US has descended to such a low where education is seen as a bad thing. I mean, how on Earth do you think you can compete with the rest of the world by having an attitude that education is bad?

All humans are "indoctrinated", that's why the Chinese like either noodles or rice (depending on whether they're from a noodle place or a rice place). That's why Americans are more likely to prefer American food than Chinese food (often Chinese restaurants will "westernize" their "Chinese" food.)

You learn to live in a certain way because of what is going on around you.

One of the best examples of "indoctrination" is Germany. After WW2 the West was forced to acknowledge their Nazi past, the East were not, the Soviets didn't care as long as they were good Communists. So in the modern, reunified Germany, the racism is in the East far more than in the West. This is an example of where a country has literally forced its people to be more tolerant, more open minded etc.

But I get it. If you're an "archconservative" I can see that education would be against your political instincts. Under-educated people are far more likely to vote for right win policies, they're easier to mold into whatever you want, far more likely to accept your scaremongering tactics on crime (we need guns to make you safe nonsense) or foreign affairs (all Muslims are evil etc).

But you're still so wrong it hurts.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The reasons for repealing the XVI Amendment are endless; none more important than this:

Another reminder why you should not give money to universities.​

Climate change fascism
By Matthew Vadum
September 29, 2016

Climate change fascism​

Without the XVI Amendment every freak would have to finance their cause with voluntary donations, or pay for it out of their own pockets. Try to imagine every political parasite that lives on income tax revenues being driven away from the public trough.

http://canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/vadum092916.jpg

Parenthetically, I cannot dispute Matthew Vadum’s “Rallying Cry of Fascism” flag, but I would be a lot happier with the “Rallying Cry of Communism” flag:

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mecb30a156f800f2fbaf893c5558d8228o0&pid=Api

The EPA is a United Nations agency, but it was environmental claptrap that attracted every displaced Communist in the world after the Soviet Union imploded long after the EPA was created.

Communism and the UN were always one and the same, but Communists flocked to the United Nations after the Soviet Union imploded because of the environmental movement. It is fair to say that the United Nations is the environmental movement.​

Ruling Classes Collectively

p.s. This flag identifies every freak regardless of the cause.

TOTALITARIAN FLAG​

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M9c05e74ed9fe6bcb5bdb9bf14c685082o0&pid=Api&w=255&h=181

Down with education, you don't need education to work in McDonalds, only the rich need to be educated because only they need to think, everyone else should be working hard to make the rich richer.

Income tax is a very small contributor to classroom education. And with the Unfunded Mandate strings that come with any Federal money, the states and locals that DO fund the bulk of education, end up LOSING money in the taking of Fed funds.

It is VERY important to end Corporate/Govt collusion. And the BULK of that collusion lately has been MASSIVE giveaways for presumably "green" things. Bernie Sanders acts like he doesn't know why "GE pays no Fed taxes". But he DOES know. He's pulling your leg. GE pays no Fed Taxes because they get a $50 or $75 Tax CREDIT (not a deduction, but an actual CREDIT) for every fucking large "energy appliance" that they sell.

NOTHING like a washer/dryer or dishwasher should be Federally subsidized. EVER... Needs to end. Because every Congress critter has their favorite causes to "fund". And the Enviro would be MUCH HAPPIER without the massive corp/govt collusion that we are allowing..

Yes, I agree that subsidies need to end for large corporations.