Right to BEAR arms upheld in Federal Appeals Court

[westwall]

NRA-ILA | Federal Appeals Court Confirms Second Amendment Protects Right to Carry in Public

FAIRFAX, Va. – The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action applauded (NRA-ILA) a ruling by a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday [July 24, 2018] that confirmed the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a firearm outside the home for self-defense.

“This is a critical issue for law-abiding gun owners who want to exercise their right to self-defense outside the home,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director, NRA-ILA. “The Second Amendment clearly protects the right to bear arms in public.”

The ruling reversed a decision by a Hawaii district court that upheld Hawaii’s ban on carriage outside the home.
*****************************************************************************************

This court is the three-judge Ninth Circuit, and the decision could be appealed to the full 9th Circuit Federal Appeals Court, which is considered the furthest left appeals court in the country.

After that it presumably will be appealed to the Supreme Court at some point, because federal appeals courts have found both ways, for and against more freedom to bear arms.

This Hawaii case turned on the word "bear." The Constitution did not say we are free to "keep" arms, meaning inside the home, perhaps: it said we had the right to "bear" arms, meaning carry.

The word by itself has two equal meanings. One is to carry. The other is to keep. It appears our founding fathers meant the keep not the carry meaning. We have the right to Keep Arms.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

KEEP and BEAR arms. Keep means to own, and Bear means to carry on your person. Learn some English.

Bear also means to keep. One thing I have always said about the 2nd amendment, it's too easy to interpret it any way you want to.

Then why does the Amendment use BOTH words? Your interpretation makes zero sense.

And including it that way also makes no sense.

Uhhhh, yeah it does...."KEEP AND BEAR"... what does that mean to you?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

NRA-ILA | Federal Appeals Court Confirms Second Amendment Protects Right to Carry in Public

FAIRFAX, Va. – The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action applauded (NRA-ILA) a ruling by a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday [July 24, 2018] that confirmed the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a firearm outside the home for self-defense.

“This is a critical issue for law-abiding gun owners who want to exercise their right to self-defense outside the home,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director, NRA-ILA. “The Second Amendment clearly protects the right to bear arms in public.”

The ruling reversed a decision by a Hawaii district court that upheld Hawaii’s ban on carriage outside the home.
*****************************************************************************************

This court is the three-judge Ninth Circuit, and the decision could be appealed to the full 9th Circuit Federal Appeals Court, which is considered the furthest left appeals court in the country.

After that it presumably will be appealed to the Supreme Court at some point, because federal appeals courts have found both ways, for and against more freedom to bear arms.

This Hawaii case turned on the word "bear." The Constitution did not say we are free to "keep" arms, meaning inside the home, perhaps: it said we had the right to "bear" arms, meaning carry.

i got a 10 minute youtube of the state at oral

no wonder they lost

they claimed that it was not a ban

although NOT ONE single permit was issued

here it is

in addition

they tried to carry concealed carry over to open carry

How to Lose a Lawsuit in 10 Minutes or Less

Wow. The Hawaii rep SUCKED. He went in completely unprepared thinking he would be preaching to the choir. What a putz.

indeed --LOL

they can ask for a full review with the the judges of the 9th

but it is unlikely to be granted

Based on his poor showing I agree with you. I was watching the body language of the judges and they were offended at his lack of prep. That's a huge error on his part.

We all condemn Judges but Judges can only rule on what is presented to them. In this case, it's so poorly presented, the ruling comes out equally poor. It's going to bounce like a bad check.

 

[EverCurious]

Alaska has had open carry forever. It's not at all uncommon to see a gun on the hip, and it's almost expected to see a gun in the truck window. We have a very high carry rate up here; think it was 80% in the city, 95% out of the city.

Our businesses, for the most part, don't lose customers because of it, people on the street don't freak out about it, and really other than folks being a shit ton more friendly, open carry hasn't caused any real problems.

I lived there for 3 years. What you don't have is very many people. Plus, at any time, you can have a wild animal waltz into your bedroom in the middle of the night. And even in Alaska, your right to a firearm is not absolute. There are many limits. But you do have the right to openly carry as long as you do it within the State Guidelines.

It does appear there is a push for the common sense gun regulations that are sweeping the rest of the nation. So don't be surprised if those go into affect. But only if the State of Alaska wants it. I learned a long time ago not to try and force an Alaskan to do anything even if they wanted to do it in the first place.

We are pretty stubborn about our rights. Lots of independents up here. If the lower 48 tries to push gun shit on us we'll end up with another rise of the "succession party" heh

There are basically no gun laws up here though; here is the full extent of Alaska "gun regulation" (Note the Machine Gun thing and the guns in places serving drinks are federal, not Alaskan --- The only way Alaska is going to put down restrictions on guns is if you asshole lower 48ers go totalitarian up and make federal laws banning them. Then we'll be in the courts bitching up a storm that we can't protect ourselves from the fucking bears and wolves eating our dogs heh)

[Alaska] STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION -- Article 1, Section 19.
“A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The individual right to keep and bear arms shall not be denied or infringed by the state or political subdivision of the State.”

See also:

Carrying
Any person 21 years of age or older may carry a handgun concealed on their person provided that, when contacted by a police officer, informs the officer of that possession and allows the police officer to secure the handgun for the duration of that contact.

Machine Guns
A machine gun is defined as a firearm that is capable of shooting more than one shot automatically, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. It is unlawful to manufacture, possess, transport or sell a machine gun or a silencer, but it is an affirmative defense to possess such devices if they are legally registered and possessed in compliance with all federal laws. It is unlawful to possess any rifle with a barrel length of less than 16 inches, a shotgun with a barrel length of less than 18 inches, or any rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches.

Miscellaneous
It is unlawful to remove, alter, cover, or destroy the manufacturer’s serial number on a firearm with the intent to render the firearm untraceable or to possess such a firearm.

Range Protection
No person may bring a civil or criminal action alleging excessive noise resulting from the normal operation of a shooting range.

Transportation and Storage of Firearms in Privately Owned Motor Vehicles
The state, a municipality or a person may not adopt or enforce a law, ordinance, policy or rule that prohibits an individual from possessing a firearm while that individual is within a motor vehicle or prohibiting an individual from storing a firearm that is locked in the individual’s motor vehicle while the motor vehicle is otherwise legally parked in or on state or municipal property or another person’s property. This applies only to possession of a firearm by an individual who may legally possess a firearm under state and federal law.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The word by itself has two equal meanings. One is to carry. The other is to keep. It appears our founding fathers meant the keep not the carry meaning. We have the right to Keep Arms.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

KEEP and BEAR arms. Keep means to own, and Bear means to carry on your person. Learn some English.

Bear also means to keep. One thing I have always said about the 2nd amendment, it's too easy to interpret it any way you want to.

Then why does the Amendment use BOTH words? Your interpretation makes zero sense.

And including it that way also makes no sense.

Uhhhh, yeah it does...."KEEP AND BEAR"... what does that mean to you?

I'm playing Devil's Advocate. Personally, I think it should read, "Keep Armed Bears". Should make hunting very, very interesting.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Alaska has had open carry forever. It's not at all uncommon to see a gun on the hip, and it's almost expected to see a gun in the truck window. We have a very high carry rate up here; think it was 80% in the city, 95% out of the city.

Our businesses, for the most part, don't lose customers because of it, people on the street don't freak out about it, and really other than folks being a shit ton more friendly, open carry hasn't caused any real problems.

I lived there for 3 years. What you don't have is very many people. Plus, at any time, you can have a wild animal waltz into your bedroom in the middle of the night. And even in Alaska, your right to a firearm is not absolute. There are many limits. But you do have the right to openly carry as long as you do it within the State Guidelines.

It does appear there is a push for the common sense gun regulations that are sweeping the rest of the nation. So don't be surprised if those go into affect. But only if the State of Alaska wants it. I learned a long time ago not to try and force an Alaskan to do anything even if they wanted to do it in the first place.

We are pretty stubborn about our rights. Lots of independents up here. If the lower 48 tries to push gun shit on us we'll end up with another rise of the "succession party" heh

There are basically no gun laws up here though; here is the full extent of Alaska "gun regulation" (Note the Machine Gun thing and the guns in places serving drinks are federal, not Alaskan --- The only way Alaska is going to put down restrictions on guns is if you asshole lower 48ers go totalitarian up and make federal laws banning them. Then we'll be in the courts bitching up a storm that we can't protect ourselves from the fucking bears and wolves eating our dogs heh)

[Alaska] STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION -- Article 1, Section 19.
“A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The individual right to keep and bear arms shall not be denied or infringed by the state or political subdivision of the State.”

See also:

Carrying
Any person 21 years of age or older may carry a handgun concealed on their person provided that, when contacted by a police officer, informs the officer of that possession and allows the police officer to secure the handgun for the duration of that contact.

Machine Guns
A machine gun is defined as a firearm that is capable of shooting more than one shot automatically, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. It is unlawful to manufacture, possess, transport or sell a machine gun or a silencer, but it is an affirmative defense to possess such devices if they are legally registered and possessed in compliance with all federal laws. It is unlawful to possess any rifle with a barrel length of less than 16 inches, a shotgun with a barrel length of less than 18 inches, or any rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches.

Miscellaneous
It is unlawful to remove, alter, cover, or destroy the manufacturer’s serial number on a firearm with the intent to render the firearm untraceable or to possess such a firearm.

Range Protection
No person may bring a civil or criminal action alleging excessive noise resulting from the normal operation of a shooting range.

Transportation and Storage of Firearms in Privately Owned Motor Vehicles
The state, a municipality or a person may not adopt or enforce a law, ordinance, policy or rule that prohibits an individual from possessing a firearm while that individual is within a motor vehicle or prohibiting an individual from storing a firearm that is locked in the individual’s motor vehicle while the motor vehicle is otherwise legally parked in or on state or municipal property or another person’s property. This applies only to possession of a firearm by an individual who may legally possess a firearm under state and federal law.

Actually, there are few more that that but I won't get into a pissing match with you. Alaska does have the most lax gun laws in the nation is all that needs to be said because they also have the lowest population of any State. The more population a state has the more it needs more gun regulation. Large groups of people just get stupid real fast.

 

[Zander]

To keep AND bear arms = own and carry.

There is no ambiguity whatsoever.

 

[jon_berzerk]

NRA-ILA | Federal Appeals Court Confirms Second Amendment Protects Right to Carry in Public

FAIRFAX, Va. – The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action applauded (NRA-ILA) a ruling by a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday [July 24, 2018] that confirmed the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a firearm outside the home for self-defense.

“This is a critical issue for law-abiding gun owners who want to exercise their right to self-defense outside the home,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director, NRA-ILA. “The Second Amendment clearly protects the right to bear arms in public.”

The ruling reversed a decision by a Hawaii district court that upheld Hawaii’s ban on carriage outside the home.
*****************************************************************************************

This court is the three-judge Ninth Circuit, and the decision could be appealed to the full 9th Circuit Federal Appeals Court, which is considered the furthest left appeals court in the country.

After that it presumably will be appealed to the Supreme Court at some point, because federal appeals courts have found both ways, for and against more freedom to bear arms.

This Hawaii case turned on the word "bear." The Constitution did not say we are free to "keep" arms, meaning inside the home, perhaps: it said we had the right to "bear" arms, meaning carry.

i got a 10 minute youtube of the state at oral

no wonder they lost

they claimed that it was not a ban

although NOT ONE single permit was issued

here it is

in addition

they tried to carry concealed carry over to open carry

How to Lose a Lawsuit in 10 Minutes or Less

Wow. The Hawaii rep SUCKED. He went in completely unprepared thinking he would be preaching to the choir. What a putz.

indeed --LOL

they can ask for a full review with the the judges of the 9th

but it is unlikely to be granted

Based on his poor showing I agree with you. I was watching the body language of the judges and they were offended at his lack of prep. That's a huge error on his part.

it was a huge error

the video is rightly named

how to lose a case in 10 minutes or less

 

[gallantwarrior]

Alaska has had open carry forever. It's not at all uncommon to see a gun on the hip, and it's almost expected to see a gun in the truck window. We have a very high carry rate up here; think it was 80% in the city, 95% out of the city.

Our businesses, for the most part, don't lose customers because of it, people on the street don't freak out about it, and really other than folks being a shit ton more friendly, open carry hasn't caused any real problems.

It does seem to alarm the tourist population, though. Or maybe we Alaskans are just part of the local "color"? I've been carrying around my place the past week or so, instead of just having the hardware handy. I've been hit by a bear a couple of times and fear that when it runs out of dog food, it might start slaughtering the livestock. Of course, when I run to town, I don't always even notice that .44 hanging at my side because it becomes part of my wardrobe, kind of like a wallet in my back pocket.

 

[SavannahMann]

NRA-ILA | Federal Appeals Court Confirms Second Amendment Protects Right to Carry in Public

FAIRFAX, Va. – The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action applauded (NRA-ILA) a ruling by a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday [July 24, 2018] that confirmed the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a firearm outside the home for self-defense.

“This is a critical issue for law-abiding gun owners who want to exercise their right to self-defense outside the home,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director, NRA-ILA. “The Second Amendment clearly protects the right to bear arms in public.”

The ruling reversed a decision by a Hawaii district court that upheld Hawaii’s ban on carriage outside the home.
*****************************************************************************************

This court is the three-judge Ninth Circuit, and the decision could be appealed to the full 9th Circuit Federal Appeals Court, which is considered the furthest left appeals court in the country.

After that it presumably will be appealed to the Supreme Court at some point, because federal appeals courts have found both ways, for and against more freedom to bear arms.

This Hawaii case turned on the word "bear." The Constitution did not say we are free to "keep" arms, meaning inside the home, perhaps: it said we had the right to "bear" arms, meaning carry.

The word by itself has two equal meanings. One is to carry. The other is to keep. It appears our founding fathers meant the keep not the carry meaning. We have the right to Keep Arms.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

KEEP and BEAR arms. Keep means to own, and Bear means to carry on your person. Learn some English.

Bear also means to keep. One thing I have always said about the 2nd amendment, it's too easy to interpret it any way you want to.

Then why does the Amendment use BOTH words? Your interpretation makes zero sense.

And including it that way also makes no sense.

It does if the founders intended both the right of ownership and the right to carry.

 

[westwall]

NRA-ILA | Federal Appeals Court Confirms Second Amendment Protects Right to Carry in Public

FAIRFAX, Va. – The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action applauded (NRA-ILA) a ruling by a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday [July 24, 2018] that confirmed the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a firearm outside the home for self-defense.

“This is a critical issue for law-abiding gun owners who want to exercise their right to self-defense outside the home,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director, NRA-ILA. “The Second Amendment clearly protects the right to bear arms in public.”

The ruling reversed a decision by a Hawaii district court that upheld Hawaii’s ban on carriage outside the home.
*****************************************************************************************

This court is the three-judge Ninth Circuit, and the decision could be appealed to the full 9th Circuit Federal Appeals Court, which is considered the furthest left appeals court in the country.

After that it presumably will be appealed to the Supreme Court at some point, because federal appeals courts have found both ways, for and against more freedom to bear arms.

This Hawaii case turned on the word "bear." The Constitution did not say we are free to "keep" arms, meaning inside the home, perhaps: it said we had the right to "bear" arms, meaning carry.

i got a 10 minute youtube of the state at oral

no wonder they lost

they claimed that it was not a ban

although NOT ONE single permit was issued

here it is

in addition

they tried to carry concealed carry over to open carry

How to Lose a Lawsuit in 10 Minutes or Less

Wow. The Hawaii rep SUCKED. He went in completely unprepared thinking he would be preaching to the choir. What a putz.

indeed --LOL

they can ask for a full review with the the judges of the 9th

but it is unlikely to be granted

Based on his poor showing I agree with you. I was watching the body language of the judges and they were offended at his lack of prep. That's a huge error on his part.

We all condemn Judges but Judges can only rule on what is presented to them. In this case, it's so poorly presented, the ruling comes out equally poor. It's going to bounce like a bad check.

Maybe, maybe not. The ruling is only bad in your opinion because you don't agree with it. On the otherhand, as a strict Constitutionalist, I agree with the ruling.

 

[westwall]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

KEEP and BEAR arms. Keep means to own, and Bear means to carry on your person. Learn some English.

Bear also means to keep. One thing I have always said about the 2nd amendment, it's too easy to interpret it any way you want to.

Then why does the Amendment use BOTH words? Your interpretation makes zero sense.

And including it that way also makes no sense.

Uhhhh, yeah it does...."KEEP AND BEAR"... what does that mean to you?

I'm playing Devil's Advocate. Personally, I think it should read, "Keep Armed Bears". Should make hunting very, very interesting.

Playing devils advocate with language that is unambiguous is a fools game. Just sayin...

 

[westwall]

Alaska has had open carry forever. It's not at all uncommon to see a gun on the hip, and it's almost expected to see a gun in the truck window. We have a very high carry rate up here; think it was 80% in the city, 95% out of the city.

Our businesses, for the most part, don't lose customers because of it, people on the street don't freak out about it, and really other than folks being a shit ton more friendly, open carry hasn't caused any real problems.

I lived there for 3 years. What you don't have is very many people. Plus, at any time, you can have a wild animal waltz into your bedroom in the middle of the night. And even in Alaska, your right to a firearm is not absolute. There are many limits. But you do have the right to openly carry as long as you do it within the State Guidelines.

It does appear there is a push for the common sense gun regulations that are sweeping the rest of the nation. So don't be surprised if those go into affect. But only if the State of Alaska wants it. I learned a long time ago not to try and force an Alaskan to do anything even if they wanted to do it in the first place.

We are pretty stubborn about our rights. Lots of independents up here. If the lower 48 tries to push gun shit on us we'll end up with another rise of the "succession party" heh

There are basically no gun laws up here though; here is the full extent of Alaska "gun regulation" (Note the Machine Gun thing and the guns in places serving drinks are federal, not Alaskan --- The only way Alaska is going to put down restrictions on guns is if you asshole lower 48ers go totalitarian up and make federal laws banning them. Then we'll be in the courts bitching up a storm that we can't protect ourselves from the fucking bears and wolves eating our dogs heh)

[Alaska] STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION -- Article 1, Section 19.
“A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The individual right to keep and bear arms shall not be denied or infringed by the state or political subdivision of the State.”

See also:

Carrying
Any person 21 years of age or older may carry a handgun concealed on their person provided that, when contacted by a police officer, informs the officer of that possession and allows the police officer to secure the handgun for the duration of that contact.

Machine Guns
A machine gun is defined as a firearm that is capable of shooting more than one shot automatically, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. It is unlawful to manufacture, possess, transport or sell a machine gun or a silencer, but it is an affirmative defense to possess such devices if they are legally registered and possessed in compliance with all federal laws. It is unlawful to possess any rifle with a barrel length of less than 16 inches, a shotgun with a barrel length of less than 18 inches, or any rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches.

Miscellaneous
It is unlawful to remove, alter, cover, or destroy the manufacturer’s serial number on a firearm with the intent to render the firearm untraceable or to possess such a firearm.

Range Protection
No person may bring a civil or criminal action alleging excessive noise resulting from the normal operation of a shooting range.

Transportation and Storage of Firearms in Privately Owned Motor Vehicles
The state, a municipality or a person may not adopt or enforce a law, ordinance, policy or rule that prohibits an individual from possessing a firearm while that individual is within a motor vehicle or prohibiting an individual from storing a firearm that is locked in the individual’s motor vehicle while the motor vehicle is otherwise legally parked in or on state or municipal property or another person’s property. This applies only to possession of a firearm by an individual who may legally possess a firearm under state and federal law.

Actually, there are few more that that but I won't get into a pissing match with you. Alaska does have the most lax gun laws in the nation is all that needs to be said because they also have the lowest population of any State. The more population a state has the more it needs more gun regulation. Large groups of people just get stupid real fast.

Actually, Nevada gives Alaska a run for its money on most lax gun laws.

 

[jon_berzerk]

i got a 10 minute youtube of the state at oral

no wonder they lost

they claimed that it was not a ban

although NOT ONE single permit was issued

here it is

in addition

they tried to carry concealed carry over to open carry

How to Lose a Lawsuit in 10 Minutes or Less

Wow. The Hawaii rep SUCKED. He went in completely unprepared thinking he would be preaching to the choir. What a putz.

indeed --LOL

they can ask for a full review with the the judges of the 9th

but it is unlikely to be granted

Based on his poor showing I agree with you. I was watching the body language of the judges and they were offended at his lack of prep. That's a huge error on his part.

We all condemn Judges but Judges can only rule on what is presented to them. In this case, it's so poorly presented, the ruling comes out equally poor. It's going to bounce like a bad check.

Maybe, maybe not. The ruling is only bad in your opinion because you don't agree with it. On the hand, as a strict Constitutionalist, I agree with the ruling.

and it falls in line with heller

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Alaska has had open carry forever. It's not at all uncommon to see a gun on the hip, and it's almost expected to see a gun in the truck window. We have a very high carry rate up here; think it was 80% in the city, 95% out of the city.

Our businesses, for the most part, don't lose customers because of it, people on the street don't freak out about it, and really other than folks being a shit ton more friendly, open carry hasn't caused any real problems.

I lived there for 3 years. What you don't have is very many people. Plus, at any time, you can have a wild animal waltz into your bedroom in the middle of the night. And even in Alaska, your right to a firearm is not absolute. There are many limits. But you do have the right to openly carry as long as you do it within the State Guidelines.

It does appear there is a push for the common sense gun regulations that are sweeping the rest of the nation. So don't be surprised if those go into affect. But only if the State of Alaska wants it. I learned a long time ago not to try and force an Alaskan to do anything even if they wanted to do it in the first place.

That's true, but the majority of the people live within a very small geographic area. I have friends who have lived in Homer, and Fairbanks for decades, and they have no issues with open carry at all.

Been to Homer and Fairbanks. There is a reason that it's open carry. It's too cold to put that cold piece of metal in your pocket. You would freeze your gonads off.

Homer isn't bad at all. Fairbanks I agree with you, but Homer is nice most of the year.

Yah, been to Homer. Nice fishing Village or what's left of the Fishing Industry.

We dropped into Fairbanks from Anchorage with a Herkypig in the middle of February. WE dropped the tailgate to drop off 2 pallets. Holy Crap. 60 below zero with another 40 below zero chill factor. Every Swinging D.... on the bird pushed those two pallets off so we could get that damned ramp up as fast as possible. And that is my only time in Fairbanks. I visited it twice. My first and my last. You could carry a howitzer on your hip in Fairbanks for all I care.

 

[westwall]

Alaska has had open carry forever. It's not at all uncommon to see a gun on the hip, and it's almost expected to see a gun in the truck window. We have a very high carry rate up here; think it was 80% in the city, 95% out of the city.

Our businesses, for the most part, don't lose customers because of it, people on the street don't freak out about it, and really other than folks being a shit ton more friendly, open carry hasn't caused any real problems.

I lived there for 3 years. What you don't have is very many people. Plus, at any time, you can have a wild animal waltz into your bedroom in the middle of the night. And even in Alaska, your right to a firearm is not absolute. There are many limits. But you do have the right to openly carry as long as you do it within the State Guidelines.

It does appear there is a push for the common sense gun regulations that are sweeping the rest of the nation. So don't be surprised if those go into affect. But only if the State of Alaska wants it. I learned a long time ago not to try and force an Alaskan to do anything even if they wanted to do it in the first place.

That's true, but the majority of the people live within a very small geographic area. I have friends who have lived in Homer, and Fairbanks for decades, and they have no issues with open carry at all.

Been to Homer and Fairbanks. There is a reason that it's open carry. It's too cold to put that cold piece of metal in your pocket. You would freeze your gonads off.

Homer isn't bad at all. Fairbanks I agree with you, but Homer is nice most of the year.

Yah, been to Homer. Nice fishing Village or what's left of the Fishing Industry.

We dropped into Fairbanks from Anchorage with a Herkypig in the middle of February. WE dropped the tailgate to drop off 2 pallets. Holy Crap. 60 below zero with another 40 below zero chill factor. Every Swinging D.... on the bird pushed those two pallets off so we could get that damned ramp up as fast as possible. And that is my only time in Fairbanks. I visited it twice. My first and my last. You could carry a howitzer on your hip in Fairbanks for all I care.

Yeah, Fairbanks is not high on my list of places to retire to. When i was working in Alaska I had a client (who became my friend) and that is why I was there. I was mainly based in Homer so I could leave whenever i wanted to. I flew a friends plane up to Anchorage a couple of years ago and stopped and visited with friends again. Had pizza at Starvin Marvins again... That is some GREAT pizza!

 

[EverCurious]

Alaska has had open carry forever. It's not at all uncommon to see a gun on the hip, and it's almost expected to see a gun in the truck window. We have a very high carry rate up here; think it was 80% in the city, 95% out of the city.

Our businesses, for the most part, don't lose customers because of it, people on the street don't freak out about it, and really other than folks being a shit ton more friendly, open carry hasn't caused any real problems.

I lived there for 3 years. What you don't have is very many people. Plus, at any time, you can have a wild animal waltz into your bedroom in the middle of the night. And even in Alaska, your right to a firearm is not absolute. There are many limits. But you do have the right to openly carry as long as you do it within the State Guidelines.

It does appear there is a push for the common sense gun regulations that are sweeping the rest of the nation. So don't be surprised if those go into affect. But only if the State of Alaska wants it. I learned a long time ago not to try and force an Alaskan to do anything even if they wanted to do it in the first place.

We are pretty stubborn about our rights. Lots of independents up here. If the lower 48 tries to push gun shit on us we'll end up with another rise of the "succession party" heh

There are basically no gun laws up here though; here is the full extent of Alaska "gun regulation" (Note the Machine Gun thing and the guns in places serving drinks are federal, not Alaskan --- The only way Alaska is going to put down restrictions on guns is if you asshole lower 48ers go totalitarian up and make federal laws banning them. Then we'll be in the courts bitching up a storm that we can't protect ourselves from the fucking bears and wolves eating our dogs heh)

[Alaska] STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION -- Article 1, Section 19.
“A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The individual right to keep and bear arms shall not be denied or infringed by the state or political subdivision of the State.”

See also:

Carrying
Any person 21 years of age or older may carry a handgun concealed on their person provided that, when contacted by a police officer, informs the officer of that possession and allows the police officer to secure the handgun for the duration of that contact.

Machine Guns
A machine gun is defined as a firearm that is capable of shooting more than one shot automatically, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. It is unlawful to manufacture, possess, transport or sell a machine gun or a silencer, but it is an affirmative defense to possess such devices if they are legally registered and possessed in compliance with all federal laws. It is unlawful to possess any rifle with a barrel length of less than 16 inches, a shotgun with a barrel length of less than 18 inches, or any rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches.

Miscellaneous
It is unlawful to remove, alter, cover, or destroy the manufacturer’s serial number on a firearm with the intent to render the firearm untraceable or to possess such a firearm.

Range Protection
No person may bring a civil or criminal action alleging excessive noise resulting from the normal operation of a shooting range.

Transportation and Storage of Firearms in Privately Owned Motor Vehicles
The state, a municipality or a person may not adopt or enforce a law, ordinance, policy or rule that prohibits an individual from possessing a firearm while that individual is within a motor vehicle or prohibiting an individual from storing a firearm that is locked in the individual’s motor vehicle while the motor vehicle is otherwise legally parked in or on state or municipal property or another person’s property. This applies only to possession of a firearm by an individual who may legally possess a firearm under state and federal law.

Actually, there are few more that that but I won't get into a pissing match with you. Alaska does have the most lax gun laws in the nation is all that needs to be said because they also have the lowest population of any State. The more population a state has the more it needs more gun regulation. Large groups of people just get stupid real fast.

Actually, Nevada gives Alaska a run for its money on most lax gun laws.

True story! No need to wonder why there's so many Alaskan's in Nevada. Half my city (mostly military folks) snow bird or have moved there full time (my parents included) heh

 

[EverCurious]

I lived there for 3 years. What you don't have is very many people. Plus, at any time, you can have a wild animal waltz into your bedroom in the middle of the night. And even in Alaska, your right to a firearm is not absolute. There are many limits. But you do have the right to openly carry as long as you do it within the State Guidelines.

It does appear there is a push for the common sense gun regulations that are sweeping the rest of the nation. So don't be surprised if those go into affect. But only if the State of Alaska wants it. I learned a long time ago not to try and force an Alaskan to do anything even if they wanted to do it in the first place.

That's true, but the majority of the people live within a very small geographic area. I have friends who have lived in Homer, and Fairbanks for decades, and they have no issues with open carry at all.

Been to Homer and Fairbanks. There is a reason that it's open carry. It's too cold to put that cold piece of metal in your pocket. You would freeze your gonads off.

Homer isn't bad at all. Fairbanks I agree with you, but Homer is nice most of the year.

Yah, been to Homer. Nice fishing Village or what's left of the Fishing Industry.

We dropped into Fairbanks from Anchorage with a Herkypig in the middle of February. WE dropped the tailgate to drop off 2 pallets. Holy Crap. 60 below zero with another 40 below zero chill factor. Every Swinging D.... on the bird pushed those two pallets off so we could get that damned ramp up as fast as possible. And that is my only time in Fairbanks. I visited it twice. My first and my last. You could carry a howitzer on your hip in Fairbanks for all I care.

Yeah, Fairbanks is not high on my list of places to retire to. When i was working in Alaska I had a client (who became my friend) and that is why I was there. I was mainly based in Homer so I could leave whenever i wanted to. I flew a friends plane up to Anchorage a couple of years ago and stopped and visited with friends again. Had pizza at Starvin Marvins again... That is some GREAT pizza!

Fairbanks and the slope are why they make parkas and hand heaters

 

[Zander]

NRA-ILA | Federal Appeals Court Confirms Second Amendment Protects Right to Carry in Public

FAIRFAX, Va. – The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action applauded (NRA-ILA) a ruling by a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday [July 24, 2018] that confirmed the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a firearm outside the home for self-defense.

“This is a critical issue for law-abiding gun owners who want to exercise their right to self-defense outside the home,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director, NRA-ILA. “The Second Amendment clearly protects the right to bear arms in public.”

The ruling reversed a decision by a Hawaii district court that upheld Hawaii’s ban on carriage outside the home.
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This court is the three-judge Ninth Circuit, and the decision could be appealed to the full 9th Circuit Federal Appeals Court, which is considered the furthest left appeals court in the country.

After that it presumably will be appealed to the Supreme Court at some point, because federal appeals courts have found both ways, for and against more freedom to bear arms.

This Hawaii case turned on the word "bear." The Constitution did not say we are free to "keep" arms, meaning inside the home, perhaps: it said we had the right to "bear" arms, meaning carry.

i got a 10 minute youtube of the state at oral

no wonder they lost

they claimed that it was not a ban

although NOT ONE single permit was issued

here it is

in addition

they tried to carry concealed carry over to open carry

How to Lose a Lawsuit in 10 Minutes or Less

He was destroyed.

"if over a period of years nobody gets a permit, it's hard to imagine it's not a ban".

 

[westwall]

That's true, but the majority of the people live within a very small geographic area. I have friends who have lived in Homer, and Fairbanks for decades, and they have no issues with open carry at all.

Been to Homer and Fairbanks. There is a reason that it's open carry. It's too cold to put that cold piece of metal in your pocket. You would freeze your gonads off.

Homer isn't bad at all. Fairbanks I agree with you, but Homer is nice most of the year.

Yah, been to Homer. Nice fishing Village or what's left of the Fishing Industry.

We dropped into Fairbanks from Anchorage with a Herkypig in the middle of February. WE dropped the tailgate to drop off 2 pallets. Holy Crap. 60 below zero with another 40 below zero chill factor. Every Swinging D.... on the bird pushed those two pallets off so we could get that damned ramp up as fast as possible. And that is my only time in Fairbanks. I visited it twice. My first and my last. You could carry a howitzer on your hip in Fairbanks for all I care.

Yeah, Fairbanks is not high on my list of places to retire to. When i was working in Alaska I had a client (who became my friend) and that is why I was there. I was mainly based in Homer so I could leave whenever i wanted to. I flew a friends plane up to Anchorage a couple of years ago and stopped and visited with friends again. Had pizza at Starvin Marvins again... That is some GREAT pizza!

Fairbanks and the slope are why they make parkas and hand heaters

Fairbanks is where they test shit for the Antarctic and Siberia!

 

[gallantwarrior]

Alaska has had open carry forever. It's not at all uncommon to see a gun on the hip, and it's almost expected to see a gun in the truck window. We have a very high carry rate up here; think it was 80% in the city, 95% out of the city.

Our businesses, for the most part, don't lose customers because of it, people on the street don't freak out about it, and really other than folks being a shit ton more friendly, open carry hasn't caused any real problems.

I lived there for 3 years. What you don't have is very many people. Plus, at any time, you can have a wild animal waltz into your bedroom in the middle of the night. And even in Alaska, your right to a firearm is not absolute. There are many limits. But you do have the right to openly carry as long as you do it within the State Guidelines.

It does appear there is a push for the common sense gun regulations that are sweeping the rest of the nation. So don't be surprised if those go into affect. But only if the State of Alaska wants it. I learned a long time ago not to try and force an Alaskan to do anything even if they wanted to do it in the first place.

We are still the "Last Frontier"!