Zone1 Resource Thread: Silver Bulletin: How Popular is President Trump?

[Rambunctious]

Notice ALL the Republicans voted for it? Notice FEWER Democrats voted for it? Notice BUSH and Reagan invented NAFTA?

NAFTA was a done deal when Clinton won. It's like every other president has to honor a deal that the previous president made. I mean unless it's a completely horrible deal. But free trade at that point was a done deal. Besides, Clinton wasn't that liberal. Of course he went along. He was a master triangulator remember?

Also, did you know Clinton put worker and environmental protections into NAFTA before he signed it? Want to bet Bush removed those protections? And if he didn't, Trump did?

It was a bipartisan bill... why lie about it?...

 

[sealybobo]

It was a bipartisan bill... why lie about it?...

Because

• The idea for NAFTA originated with Reagan in 1980.
  
  
• The Canada-US Free Trade Agreement was signed in 1988, which laid the groundwork for NAFTA.
  
  
• • In 1991, the three countries announced that they would negotiate NAFTA.
    
  • The agreement was ratified by the national legislatures of the three countries in 1993.
  • After the signing of the Canada–United States Free Trade Agreement in 1988, the administrations of U.S. president George H. W. Bush, Mexican president Carlos Salinas de Gortari, and Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney agreed to negotiate what became NAFTA.
    
  • President Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law in 1993.

 

[Rambunctious]

Because

• The idea for NAFTA originated with Reagan in 1980.
  
  
• The Canada-US Free Trade Agreement was signed in 1988, which laid the groundwork for NAFTA.
  
  
• • In 1991, the three countries announced that they would negotiate NAFTA.
  • The agreement was ratified by the national legislatures of the three countries in 1993.
  • After the signing of the Canada–United States Free Trade Agreement in 1988, the administrations of U.S. president George H. W. Bush, Mexican president Carlos Salinas de Gortari, and Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney agreed to negotiate what became NAFTA.
  • President Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law in 1993.

Bipartisan bill... you can't swing this any other way.... just like Iraq was a bipartisan war....

 

[sealybobo]

Bipartisan bill... you can't swing this any other way.... just like Iraq was a bipartisan war....

Your party invented it. Everyone in your party signed yes to it. If you never invented it, it would never exist. Reagan came up with it. He was a globalist. You guys had to convince us to go along. So who should be blamed for NAFTA? For years you tried to blame Clinton. When the reality is, it was all Republicans doing. You know, the "globalists"

The impetus for a North American free trade zone began with U.S. president Ronald Reagan, who made the idea part of his 1980 presidential campaign. After the signing of the Canada–United States Free Trade Agreement in 1988, the administrations of U.S. president George H. W. Bush, Mexican president Carlos Salinas de Gortari, and Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney agreed to negotiate what became NAFTA. Each submitted the agreement for ratification in their respective capitals in December 1992, but NAFTA faced significant opposition in both the United States and Canada.

What were liberals worried about?

The effects of the agreement regarding issues such as employment, the environment, and economic growth have been the subject of political disputes. Most economic analyses indicated that NAFTA was beneficial to the North American economies and the average citizen, but harmed a small minority of workers in industries exposed to trade competition. Economists held that withdrawing from NAFTA or renegotiating NAFTA in a way that reestablished trade barriers would have adversely affected the U.S. economy and cost jobs.

Before sending it to the United States Senate, Clinton added two side agreements, the North American Agreement on Labor Cooperation (NAALC) and the North American Agreement on Environmental Cooperation (NAAEC), to protect workers and the environment, and to also allay the concerns of many Democratic House members. After much consideration and emotional discussion, the U.S. House of Representatives passed the North American Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act on November 17, 1993, 234–200. The agreement's supporters included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993, 61–38.<a Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats. Republican Representative David Dreier of California, a strong proponent of NAFTA since the Reagan administration, played a leading role in mobilizing support for the agreement among Republicans in Congress and across the country

 

[Rambunctious]

Your party invented it. Everyone in your party signed yes to it. If you never invented it, it would never exist. Reagan came up with it. He was a globalist. You guys had to convince us to go along. So who should be blamed for NAFTA? For years you tried to blame Clinton. When the reality is, it was all Republicans doing. You know, the "globalists"

The impetus for a North American free trade zone began with U.S. president Ronald Reagan, who made the idea part of his 1980 presidential campaign. After the signing of the Canada–United States Free Trade Agreement in 1988, the administrations of U.S. president George H. W. Bush, Mexican president Carlos Salinas de Gortari, and Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney agreed to negotiate what became NAFTA. Each submitted the agreement for ratification in their respective capitals in December 1992, but NAFTA faced significant opposition in both the United States and Canada.

What were liberals worried about?

The effects of the agreement regarding issues such as employment, the environment, and economic growth have been the subject of political disputes. Most economic analyses indicated that NAFTA was beneficial to the North American economies and the average citizen, but harmed a small minority of workers in industries exposed to trade competition. Economists held that withdrawing from NAFTA or renegotiating NAFTA in a way that reestablished trade barriers would have adversely affected the U.S. economy and cost jobs.

Before sending it to the United States Senate, Clinton added two side agreements, the North American Agreement on Labor Cooperation (NAALC) and the North American Agreement on Environmental Cooperation (NAAEC), to protect workers and the environment, and to also allay the concerns of many Democratic House members. After much consideration and emotional discussion, the U.S. House of Representatives passed the North American Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act on November 17, 1993, 234–200. The agreement's supporters included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993, 61–38.<a Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats. Republican Representative David Dreier of California, a strong proponent of NAFTA since the Reagan administration, played a leading role in mobilizing support for the agreement among Republicans in Congress and across the country

Both parties voted for it... why are you still fighting that fact?.... its ok to be wrong at times but to deny it when everyone can see you are wrong is just sad....

 

[sealybobo]

Both parties voted for it... why are you still fighting that fact?.... its ok to be wrong at times but to deny it when everyone can see you are wrong is just sad....

The only ones who objected to it were us Democrats. Yes, Republicans got a lot of Democrats to go along with their plans. But it was still, their plan.

I'm not even against NAFTA now. Unless it's unfair. Is it?

 

[Rambunctious]

The only ones who objected to it were us Democrats. Yes, Republicans got a lot of Democrats to go along with their plans. But it was still, their plan.

I'm not even against NAFTA now. Unless it's unfair. Is it?

It was a bipartisan bill my friend... you can't spin this any other way....

 

[sealybobo]

It was a bipartisan bill my friend... you can't spin this any other way....

Okay fine. But Democrats were the ones who had concerned. We made Republicans put in Environmental and Worker protections before we would go along.

And Republicans came up with it.

Obamacare was a bipartisan bill. The House passed the bill on November 7, 2009, with the votes of 219 Democrats and one Republican (Rep. Joseph Cao (R-La.)).

Couldn't have done it without guys like him and John McCain.

 

[Rambunctious]

Okay fine. But Democrats were the ones who had concerned. We made Republicans put in Environmental and Worker protections before we would go along.

And Republicans came up with it.

Obamacare was a bipartisan bill. The House passed the bill on November 7, 2009, with the votes of 219 Democrats and one Republican (Rep. Joseph Cao (R-La.)).

Couldn't have done it without guys like him and John McCain.

If you can call McCain a republican which he was more democrat than republican... but yes it was bipartisan by one... NAFTA was bipartisan by over one hundred votes... if it makes you feel better to say Obamacare was bipartisan have at it.....

 

[sealybobo]

If you can call McCain a republican which he was more democrat than republican... but yes it was bipartisan by one... NAFTA was bipartisan by over one hundred votes... if it makes you feel better to say Obamacare was bipartisan have at it.....

McCain was your nominee for POTUS. So no he wasn't more democrat than republican. Do you want to debate that next? LOL.

 

[luiza]

Considering Nate Silver Doesn't Engage

Despite your silly effort to promote a Pollster as a serious social scientist I must inform you of the Truth .
All recent Near Death Reporters and Channelers report that the Illegitimate Son is furious that Donald's popularity has passed his own in the higher corridors of power .

You are so Gullible , Dainty .

 

[Dante]

Despite your silly effort to promote a Pollster as a serious social scientist I must inform you of the Truth .
All recent Near Death Reporters and Channelers report that the Illegitimate Son is furious that Donald's popularity has passed his own in the higher corridors of power .

You are so Gullible , Dainty .

What a strange and weird thought. Are you on new medications or have you upped the dose of your old meds?

Gullibility comes with being a part of a cult-of-personality

 

[Rambunctious]

McCain was your nominee for POTUS. So no he wasn't more democrat than republican. Do you want to debate that next? LOL.

Not my nominee... I am not a republican number one and I never liked McCain since I met one of the men that was held in the POW camp McCain was in.... I won't go into what he told me About McCain because the man is dead and I won't speak negatively about the dead.... but he was no hero....

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

• Americans overwhelmingly support President Trump’s agenda.
  • 81% support deporting criminal illegal immigrants.
  • 76% support a “full-scale effort to find and eliminate fraud and waste in government.”
  • 76% support closing the border with additional security and policies.
  • 69% support keeping men out of women’s sports.
  • 68% support government declaring there are only two genders.
  • 65% support ending race-based hiring in government.
  • 63% support “freezing and re-evaluating all foreign aid expenditures and the department that handled them.”
  • 61% support reciprocal tariffs.
  • 60% support direct U.S. negotiations with Russia to end the war in Ukraine.
  • 59% support cutting government spending already approved by Congress.
  • 57% support ending the ban on new offshore drilling.
  • New Poll Shows Massive Support for President Trump and His Agenda

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It will be glorious when it becomes so obvious that only the hopelessly owned by the left cult will be unable to see it.


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[sealybobo]

Not my nominee... I am not a republican number one and I never liked McCain since I met one of the men that was held in the POW camp McCain was in.... I won't go into what he told me About McCain because the man is dead and I won't speak negatively about the dead.... but he was no hero....

Hey, like the Chaney's, John McCain can suck the devil's dick.

I just think it's funny today no Republicans on USMB admit to liking him, Romney or Bush. You're all liars. I've been here a long long time. I remember what's going on now, was going on in the 2000's. Pretty much. Other than Bush was a globalist who did like illegals because corporations like illegals They still do. Trump just knows what to say. Show you he's deporting criminals. But ultimately, he won't go after illegal employers. He is one.

 

[Rambunctious]

Hey, like the Chaney's, John McCain can suck the devil's dick.

I just think it's funny today no Republicans on USMB admit to liking him, Romney or Bush. You're all liars. I've been here a long long time. I remember what's going on now, was going on in the 2000's. Pretty much. Other than Bush was a globalist who did like illegals because corporations like illegals They still do. Trump just knows what to say. Show you he's deporting criminals. But ultimately, he won't go after illegal employers. He is one.

Remember the word RINO?... that was invented by conservative republicans and you just named four of them... there are not a lot of them left but the ones who are..... are connected and still yield power because they hand out committee assignments and campaign cash... but by the end of 2028 there won't be any RINO's left... MAGA is taking over the GOP and doing it with former democrat and independent voters.... that Trump took from you wokesters.....

 

[luiza]

Gullibility comes with being a part of a cult-of-personality

Well done Dainty .
You know yourself .
When did you realise that you imagined yourself to be a Cult ?

Did I spell that correctly ?
I suspect not .

 

[sealybobo]

Remember the word RINO?... that was invented by conservative republicans and you just named four of them... there are not a lot of them left but the ones who are..... are connected and still yield power because they hand out committee assignments and campaign cash... but by the end of 2028 there won't be any RINO's left... MAGA is taking over the GOP and doing it with former democrat and independent voters.... that Trump took from you wokesters.....

Wokesters? We see Putin is even talking like this to his people. We see the pattern. So we should compare him to Putin too not just Hitler.

Trump is a globalist. You see he called off the tariffs on Canada and Mexico? He's for free trade. He better be. If he wants to bring certain industries back home and raise tariffs on just that industry, fine. But tariffing everything? What an idiot. Seriously.

So this is all theater. Trump's a globalist. Coca Cola, KFC, MCD are all over the globe. Trump's going to give the global corporations a HUGE break if they bring the money they already owe us back now. They only have to pay taxes on 10% of it.

 

[sealybobo]

Remember the word RINO?... that was invented by conservative republicans and you just named four of them... there are not a lot of them left but the ones who are..... are connected and still yield power because they hand out committee assignments and campaign cash... but by the end of 2028 there won't be any RINO's left... MAGA is taking over the GOP and doing it with former democrat and independent voters.... that Trump took from you wokesters.....

Consider this. Trump's going to give the global corporations a HUGE tax break if they bring the money they already owe us back now. They only have to pay taxes on 10% of it. IMAGINE if we demanded they pay 100% of it now or get out of our country. But Trump would never do that. Why doesn't Trump get tough with them?

 

[Rambunctious]

Trump is a globalist

Trump is America first but he knows how the world works and will do business with anyone as long as that business helps Americans and doesn't take advantage of the USA....
I know it looks strange to you but that's a real US president.... not a senile puppet on a string...