Republicans vote against Bush tax cuts...

[editec]

And the Democrats passed an extension

only three republicans voted to extend

20 Democrats voted against the extension

The Republicans were not voting for a tax hike, or to raise taxes in any way.

They were voting so that the dems will realize that the tax cuts need to ALL be extended.

So, Republicans are voting for the extension of the tax cuts.

That is what they said they were going to do. Liberals just cannot seem to understand common sense.

Oh I think people understand the debate well enough.

Bsically do we give 95% of the population a tax break or do we give a tax break to all 100% of the tax-payers.

The debate is fairly simple, but the arguments supporting each position take a bit of time to absorb.

 

[mudwhistle]

And the Democrats passed an extension

only three republicans voted to extend

20 Democrats voted against the extension

The Republicans were not voting for a tax hike, or to raise taxes in any way.

They were voting so that the dems will realize that the tax cuts need to ALL be extended.

So, Republicans are voting for the extension of the tax cuts.

That is what they said they were going to do. Liberals just cannot seem to understand common sense.

Oh I think people understand the debate well enough.

Bsically do we give 95% of the population a tax break or do we give a tax break to all 100% of the tax-payers.

The debate is fairly simple, but the arguments supporting each position take a bit of time to absorb.

And yet again you don't understand nor do you want to and we've talked about this till we're blue in the face. This is about political posturing, nothing more. We've been absorbing this shit for two years. What else is there to take from this?

Democrats want to shore up their base by pushing stupid alternatives and half-measures when their base for some insane reason wants to raise our taxes across the board. They want to get even with the rich and punish everyone else in the process. The only solutions that will work aren't even being considered by the majority.....mainly because they're conservative ideas and mainly because they know they'll work.

This debate is the primary reason the economy is so poor and unemployment is so high because lunatics have taken over the White House and are methodically instituting a program designed to punish anyone who dares to make a buck.

Class-warfare is being used in favor of doing what is good for this country. The Dems have the majority. They can pass anything they want but they can't get their own people on board. The GOP is powerless in all of this. They have their principles and enough Democrats are voting with them to stifle some of the insanity that the left is perpetrating on the American taxpayer.

 

[The T]

The Republicans were not voting for a tax hike, or to raise taxes in any way.

They were voting so that the dems will realize that the tax cuts need to ALL be extended.

So, Republicans are voting for the extension of the tax cuts.

That is what they said they were going to do. Liberals just cannot seem to understand common sense.

Oh I think people understand the debate well enough.

Bsically do we give 95% of the population a tax break or do we give a tax break to all 100% of the tax-payers.

The debate is fairly simple, but the arguments supporting each position take a bit of time to absorb.

And yet again you don't understand nor do you want to and we've talked about this till we're blue in the face. This is about political posturing, nothing more. We've been absorbing this shit for two years. What else is there to take from this?

Democrats want to shore up their base by pushing stupid alternatives and half-measures when their base for some insane reason wants to raise our taxes across the board. They want to get even with the rich and punish everyone else in the process. The only solutions that will work aren't even being considered by the majority.....mainly because they're conservative ideas and mainly because they know they'll work.

This debate is the primary reason the economy is so poor and unemployment is so high because lunatics have taken over the White House and are methodically instituting a program designed to punish anyone who dares to make a buck.

Class-warfare is being used in favor of doing what is good for this country. The Dems have the majority. They can pass anything they want but they can't get their own people on board. The GOP is powerless in all of this. They have their principles and enough Democrats are voting with them to stifle some of the insanity that the left is perpetrating on the American taxpayer.

And those 'half-measures' are nothing more than boubles and trinquets like that thrown to a crowd during Mardi-Gras.

The measures never take care of the problem...it's like kicking the can down the road until someone else kicks it.

And of course the Democrats use the old 'Republicans' kept us from doing it mantra is tired. Republicans couldn't do a damned thing in this session.

The tactics of blame, minimize, deny, and obfuscate were in full play by these Statists.

 

[Charles_Main]

Tell those assholes to stop all of the excessive spending.

You are in no position to whine as long as that's still going on.


[childish namecalling removed]

The Democrats just want some more tax revenue to pay for the Republican spending we've been saddled with.

Stop being a partisan hack. The gross overspending has been a bipartisan effort.

While you are right it has been a bipartisan effort. In the last 2 years it has been a Democrat spending spree, which makes his comment maddening to hear.

 

[Charles_Main]

And the Democrats passed an extension

only three republicans voted to extend

20 Democrats voted against the extension

The Republicans were not voting for a tax hike, or to raise taxes in any way.

They were voting so that the dems will realize that the tax cuts need to ALL be extended.

So, Republicans are voting for the extension of the tax cuts.

That is what they said they were going to do. Liberals just cannot seem to understand common sense.

Oh I think people understand the debate well enough.

Bsically do we give 95% of the population a tax break or do we give a tax break to all 100% of the tax-payers.

The debate is fairly simple, but the arguments supporting each position take a bit of time to absorb.

Wrong again. The Debate is. Do we give the People who create wealth and Jobs a tax break. Something that will actually Create jobs, or do we only give them to everyone else.

 

[The T]

The Republicans were not voting for a tax hike, or to raise taxes in any way.

They were voting so that the dems will realize that the tax cuts need to ALL be extended.

So, Republicans are voting for the extension of the tax cuts.

That is what they said they were going to do. Liberals just cannot seem to understand common sense.

Oh I think people understand the debate well enough.

Bsically do we give 95% of the population a tax break or do we give a tax break to all 100% of the tax-payers.

The debate is fairly simple, but the arguments supporting each position take a bit of time to absorb.

Wrong again. The Debate is. Do we give the People who create wealth and Jobs a tax break. Something that will actually Create jobs, or do we only give them to everyone else.

Indeed. What is to absorb? You either treat everyone across the board equally, or not. Punish achievers that make this nation really work? And give stipends to those that try very little or not at all at the expense of those whom are out there working thier asses off?

And of course we know what is going on. The Statists prefer to guarantee an equal result in life for eveyone. And that is just not possible in human existance.

It just isn't.

 

[JBeukema]

The Republicans were not voting for a tax hike, or to raise taxes in any way.

They were voting so that the dems will realize that the tax cuts need to ALL be extended.

So, Republicans are voting for the extension of the tax cuts.

That is what they said they were going to do. Liberals just cannot seem to understand common sense.

Oh I think people understand the debate well enough.

Bsically do we give 95% of the population a tax break or do we give a tax break to all 100% of the tax-payers.

The debate is fairly simple, but the arguments supporting each position take a bit of time to absorb.

Wrong again. The Debate is. Do we give the People who create wealth and Jobs a tax break. Something that will actually Create jobs, or do we only give them to everyone else.

Bullshit. Doesn't work in theory or in practice.


Where are the jobs from the Bush tax cuts? The biggest companies are making record profits, but there are no jobs. They just pocket the money.

Companies hire based on demand, not on supply. If there's noone to buy good or service, they're not going to produce it.


I've explained this before:

FactCheck.org: Supply-side Spin

Tax cuts DO NOT increase tax revenue no matter how many times youy lie about it.

Well this proves democrats have zero understanding of human nature. So now your argument has turned they would be higher.


Different then your other rethoric.

1) Human nature is more complex than the laughable 'curve'

Ludwig von Mises Institute - Homepage

2) Republicans have no understanding of human nature or the economy. They think the rich make money and then hire just because. They fail to grasp that the sole reason for hiring is because there is a demand to be met and potential to make profit by meeting it. 'Supply-side' does not work, has not worked, and will never work. The only way to stimulate the economy and give businesses a reason to hire is by increasing demand. You increase demand by ensuring that the working class has money to spend on things they want, thereby creating demand. There's a reason these companies sell their goods in the U.S. and not to the exploited poor in China and Indonesia. The latter do not have the money to spend- they create no demand, so there is no money to be made selling to them. That is why we are the consumers and they are not.

When the rich exploit the proletariat and the common man has no excess income to spend on things he desires, the bourgeoisie ultimately undoes itself, as there is no demand for the capitalists' goods and services. After all, the bourgeoisie already have plenty of money- a few extra grand will not encourage a millionaire to buy anything new or create any new demand for anyone else's goods or services.

Today's homework assignment:
1) Define:
-marginal utility
-surplus value
-demand

2) Explain the relationship between marginal utility, market demand, and the working man's discretionary income

3) Explore how this explains the rate of market return of tax cuts for the wealthy as compared to unemployment assistance and tax cuts for the working class. Explain the logical fallacy of the 'Laffer Curve', using Austrian behavioral economic theory.

4) Explore how these interactions explain the growth of the United States and its economy, including the rising standard of living and increased surplus value experienced by both worker and capitalist following the fairer-wage progress of the labour movement in the U.S.

 

[Trajan]

The Democrats are going to let themselves be railroaded into extending all the tax cuts, which will continue to balloon the deficit, and what will the GOP'ers be running against Obama with in 2012?

The deficit. Which they will label OBAMA'S deficit.

Tell those assholes to stop all of the excessive spending.

You are in no position to whine as long as that's still going on.


[childish namecalling removed]

The Democrats just want some more tax revenue to pay for the Republican spending we've been saddled with.

do you think we should have passed the 4.5 billion school foodie bill we just did?

 

[The T]

The Democrats are going to let themselves be railroaded into extending all the tax cuts, which will continue to balloon the deficit, and what will the GOP'ers be running against Obama with in 2012?

The deficit. Which they will label OBAMA'S deficit.

Tell those assholes to stop all of the excessive spending.

You are in no position to whine as long as that's still going on.


[childish namecalling removed]

The Democrats just want some more tax revenue to pay for the Republican spending we've been saddled with.

Bullshit. They want it to pay for their Socialist agenda. And screw the parties. Gubmint IS the problem, and they are meddling where they don't belong for purposes of control.

Please deny this?

 

[mudwhistle]

Let's face it folks....the Dems have been lying to us.

First they said the Bush tax-cuts only helped the rich...now they're trying to keep the Middle-class portion in effect but only allow the upper level to expire.

This shows two lies:

1. That the Bush Tax-cuts only help the rich

2. That tax-cuts are bad for the economy

This second lie is revealed because Obama wants to extend the cuts for the Middle-class. If it was so bad for our economy he wouldn't even attempt to extend any of them. He could just wait till they all expire then allow the economy to fix itself....which is total bullshit and he knows it.

This is why Liberals never fail to amuse me when they stick to this class-warfare nonsense.

 

[The T]

Let's face it folks....the Dems have been lying to us.

First they said the Bush tax-cuts only helped the rich...now they're trying to keep the Middle-class portion in effect but only allow the upper level to expire.

This shows two lies:

1. That the Bush Tax-cuts only help the rich

2. That tax-cuts are bad for the economy

This second lie is revealed because Obama wants to extend the cuts for the Middle-class. If it was so bad for economy he wouldn't even attempt to extend any of them. He could just wait till they all expire then allow the economy to fix itself....which is total bullshit and he knows it.

Thus revealing that all of it is all for tageted control by Obama and this Government.

 

[Trajan]

Tell those assholes to stop all of the excessive spending.

You are in no position to whine as long as that's still going on.


[childish namecalling removed]

The Democrats just want some more tax revenue to pay for the Republican spending we've been saddled with.

do you think we should have passed the 4.5 billion school foodie bill we just did?

hello?

 

[The T]

The Democrats just want some more tax revenue to pay for the Republican spending we've been saddled with.

do you think we should have passed the 4.5 billion school foodie bill we just did?

hello?

I wouldn't expect an answer of any substance if at all.

 

[RespectForVets]

Repubs only care about money, nothing else.