Republicans to Shut Down the Federal Government if President Biden vetoes a bill to prevent illegal immigrants from voting in Federal Elections.

[protectionist]

You'd have to have a federal ID to do it.

An ordinary authentic birth certificate would be sufficient, but a biometric federal photo ID, based on birth records (easily verifiable) would be better.

 

[Vrenn]

As far as I know there is no difference in the ID/License the Communistwealth of

is providing to illegal/undocumented individuals and the one they’re providing to citizens. If I’m correct, that makes it impossible for a registrar if voters to distinguish who is supposed to be voting and who isn’t.

You aren't correct. The issue of a DL does not make you eligible to gain voting rights in your state.

CLAIM: A new Massachusetts law providing driver’s licenses for immigrants in the country illegally will also automatically register them to vote in elections.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-elections-voting-immigration-licenses-872467507455
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The law passed by Massachusetts state lawmakers this summer prohibits immigrants without legal permission to reside in the U.S. from being automatically registered to vote. The law specifically mandates that the state Registrar of Motor Vehicles develop procedures and regulations to ensure that license applicants who are not citizens are not automatically registered to vote.

If not Federal level voter registration, then the Feds at least need to set the parameters for who is eligible to vote, how one must prove eligibility prior to registering to vote, and how voter roles are cleansed of defunct voting records.

The Consitution gives the Congress a limited way to slightly change allowing the Feds to change a states election rules. But to date, the Courts (many) has ruled that the need of such changes have not been met.

Hate to break it to you but if where you live is such a shithole, please stay there. We don't need your shitholes exported across the nation.

 

[Blaster]

Less government means more freedom.

 

[forkintheroad7]

My thoughts is it needs to be done. Non citizens should not be allowed to vote, period. They shouldn't even be allowed to be in this country in the first place.

Are you sure they're really going to do it this time? We've heard them say this b4. I hope to God they are serious because we just cannot have this craziness and remain.. America

 

[Monoculturalist]

Might as well shut down the government, because if you have rogue politicians who allow illegal aliens to vote, then you DON'T HAVE a government, or a nation, period.

Well, it's basically a facade of a government or nation. The West in general has gone down this path via globalization and lax immigration policies. Letting non-citizens vote is consistent with the ridiculous system we have in place.

 

[protectionist]

Well, it's basically a facade of a government or nation. The West in general has gone down this path via globalization and lax immigration policies. Letting non-citizens vote is consistent with the ridiculous system we have in place.

Correct, and there's no telling how far down these global loons will drag us, especially if they steal another election in November.

Welcome to the forum. Keep posting.

 

[Anathema]

You aren't correct. The issue of a DL does not make you eligible to gain voting rights in your state

They don’t get to automatically register to vote. That doesn’t mean local registrars are not registering them at Town Hall.

The Consitution gives the Congress a limited way to slightly change allowing the Feds to change a states election rules. But to date, the Courts (many) has ruled that the need of such changes have not been met.

And the Courts are wrong, as they usually are. We need a Constitutional Anebdnent creating a single system to register voters and provide secure and unquestionable election systems.

 

[Dragonlady]

They dont draw attention to themselves. They look the same as any other voter. Nobody can tell if they are noncitizens.

But they didn't present proof of citizenship on registration so they're not registered to vote.

 

[Monoculturalist]

But they didn't present proof of citizenship on registration so they're not registered to vote.

Most states hand out voter registration forms to everyone that gets a driver's license. This includes noncitizens. In theory, a voter roll can be purged of noncitizens with the right research. However, it is not an automatic process, since a driver's license counts as a form of identification.

 

[scruffy]

I don't believe the Republicans will do bupkus.

After sll, if they haven't done anything this last 4:years how can we expect them to do anything now?

 

[Vrenn]

They don’t get to automatically register to vote. That doesn’t mean local registrars are not registering them at Town Hall.

Then you need to get decent registrars.

And the Courts are wrong, as they usually are. We need a Constitutional Anebdnent creating a single system to register voters and provide secure and unquestionable election systems.

Then I suggest you get decent (or what you believe is decent) judges. Or you can shut off Foxnews and Newsmax.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Shut it down. And when it eventually opens, make sure there is no retroactive payments. MAGA

You can't do that, even though we wish we could.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Most states hand out voter registration forms to everyone that gets a driver's license. This includes noncitizens. In theory, a voter roll can be purged of noncitizens with the right research. However, it is not an automatic process, since a driver's license counts as a form of identification.

What I want to know is how states very illegal immigrants age in order to give them a driver's license? No birth certificates for illegals is usually the case. How do they know they are old enough for a license, or do we give illegals a license regardless of age?

In my state of Tennessee, my voter registration information was automatically sent form the driver's license office to the voter registration at my request. I filled out nothing and received my card in about a week.

 

[Kondor3]

My thoughts is it needs to be done. Non citizens should not be allowed to vote, period. They shouldn't even be allowed to be in this country in the first place.

Isn't a non-citizen voting ALREADY a crime?

Isn't this just a matter of having the political will (or ball$) to enforce that law?

 

[Monoculturalist]

Isn't a non-citizen voting ALREADY a crime?

Isn't this just a matter of having the political will (or ball$) to enforce that law?

Technically, it's not even a crime if the non-citizen "believes" they are a citizen. There's an obscure part of US code that allows for this. Supposedly, their vote shouldn't count, but if there's no punishment involved.... well...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I don't believe the Republicans will do bupkus.

After sll, if they haven't done anything this last 4:years how can we expect them to do anything now?

What could they have done that the Democrats did not shoot down?

 

[Moonglow]

An ordinary authentic birth certificate would be sufficient, but a biometric federal photo ID, based on birth records (easily verifiable) would be better.

I don't tend to carry a birth cert around with me.

 

[Kondor3]

Perhaps it's time to modify RealID standards (if, indeed, these standards don't already exist) so that any US jurisdiction's State ID Cards and Drivers Licenses show citizenship status?

 

[wamose]

What I want to know is how states very illegal immigrants age in order to give them a driver's license? No birth certificates for illegals is usually the case. How do they know they are old enough for a license, or do we give illegals a license regardless of age?

In my state of Tennessee, my voter registration information was automatically sent form the driver's license office to the voter registration at my request. I filled out nothing and received my card in about a week.

That system opens up a lot of opportunities for fraud. I thought Tennessee would have a more reasonable system.

 

[Unkotare]

Most states hand out voter registration forms to everyone that gets a driver's license. This includes noncitizens. In theory, a voter roll can be purged of noncitizens with the right research. However, it is not an automatic process, since a driver's license counts as a form of identification.

That needs to change.