Republicans set to just say no to jobs bill

[Ame®icano]

What's the incentive to hire when there's no work for the new employee, numbnuts?

Of course if there is NO WORK nobody is going to hire numbnuts

However, with many sectors of the economy coming back, this bill provides an incentive for small businesses to pull the trigger on new hires sooner than they may have

Name some.

 

[Oddball]

What's the incentive to hire when there's no work for the new employee, numbnuts?

Of course if there is NO WORK nobody is going to hire numbnuts

However, with many sectors of the economy coming back, this bill provides an incentive for small businesses to pull the trigger on new hires sooner than they may have

The only incentive to hire is production exceeding present capacity....Which isn't happening.

Tossing in a puny little tax credit for people who aren't producing more, is nothing more than an ounce of image to distract from the ten tons of pure pork in the bill.

 

[rightwinger]

What's the incentive to hire when there's no work for the new employee, numbnuts?

Of course if there is NO WORK nobody is going to hire numbnuts

However, with many sectors of the economy coming back, this bill provides an incentive for small businesses to pull the trigger on new hires sooner than they may have

Name some.

How jobs growth forecast was done - USATODAY.com

Construction
Education
Financial
Information
National resources

 

[Avatar4321]

Why do people presume that simply because a politician names a bill a certain thing, that the bill actually does what the title claims?

 

[Ame®icano]

Of course if there is NO WORK nobody is going to hire numbnuts

However, with many sectors of the economy coming back, this bill provides an incentive for small businesses to pull the trigger on new hires sooner than they may have

Name some.

How jobs growth forecast was done - USATODAY.com

Construction
Education
Financial
Information
National resources

Maybe you should double check before you post it.

Growth forecasts are up.

Actual growth is down.

 

[rightwinger]

Economist Mark Zandi Says More Jobs Are On The Way as the Economy Rebounds in Nation's Heartland - ABC News

Then, according to Zandi, the next places that will see a renaissance in jobs are technology centers like Boston, San Francisco and Seattle.

At the end of next year, he said we will even start to see new jobs in the retail, leisure and hospitality industries as consumer spending and business travel rebound.

 

[Ame®icano]

Economist Mark Zandi Says More Jobs Are On The Way as the Economy Rebounds in Nation's Heartland - ABC News

Then, according to Zandi, the next places that will see a renaissance in jobs are technology centers like Boston, San Francisco and Seattle.

At the end of next year, he said we will even start to see new jobs in the retail, leisure and hospitality industries as consumer spending and business travel rebound.

Beyond that region, Zandi said, other states can expect good news soon. Ohio, South Carolina and Indiana will all start to see more jobs soon, he said, thanks to an uptick in manufacturing that is already helping those states pull out of the recession.

Soon.

He can keep saying soon... and claim he was right sometimes in year 20... 15?

In the mean time we'll have couple of new stimuluses, job bills and $20 trillion of debt.

Great acheivemnets. Soon.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I want the GOP to be the "party of no" while Obama is President. In fact, I think they should use the slogan this November.

Most of the country doesn't want what Obama is trying to do.

This is an example of a unprovable, therefore completely meaningless statement.

Since when do you speak for "Most of the country"?

I don't speak for most of the country. But polls indicate that the majority of people don't want the stimulus to pass or the Dem version of Gvt Healthcare

You're wrong, you know. The stimulus was last year - and a majority of Americans supported it.

Obama Signs Stimulus Into Law With Majority Support

And - it's true that Americans mostly don't agree with the current healthcare bill, myself included. But still, it's not really that much of a "majority".

Healthcare Bill Support Ticks Up; Public Still Divided

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Because it's not all about helping small business. In fact, it's not even a teensey-weensey bit about helping small business.

It's all about bailing out state bureaucracies that can't control their own spending.

Where in the bill does any money go to states, aside for funding for public transportation?

 

[Oddball]

The biggest money-losing state boondoggles out there are idiotic urban mass transit scams.

How much you want to bet that states getting money under that pretext find some "emergency", to which those funds get diverted?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The biggest money-losing state boondoggles out there are idiotic urban mass transit scams.

How much you want to bet that states getting money under that pretext find some "emergency", to which those funds get diverted?

What you're saying is probably true.

But according to the bill, the money is going mostly to grant programs - like hiring a company to make road signs and the like. It's pretty clearly defined in the bill where the money should go. And that is the type of stimulus that I can support - it puts money into the system (those companies hire workers, workers spend money, etc etc). What you're saying is possible - maybe even probable. But not a given - and arguments like that are logical fallacies. It's comparable to saying a kid arrested for pot should never be released because he might kill someone later.

 

[rdean]

Republicans set to just say no to jobs bill

Of course Republicans say no to jobs bill. They don't want to work. Would you if you looked like this:

 

[Oddball]

The biggest money-losing state boondoggles out there are idiotic urban mass transit scams.

How much you want to bet that states getting money under that pretext find some "emergency", to which those funds get diverted?

What you're saying is probably true.

But according to the bill, the money is going mostly to grant programs - like hiring a company to make road signs and the like. It's pretty clearly defined in the bill where the money should go. And that is the type of stimulus that I can support - it puts money into the system (those companies hire workers, workers spend money, etc etc). What you're saying is possible - maybe even probable. But not a given - and arguments like that are logical fallacies. It's comparable to saying a kid arrested for pot should never be released because he might kill someone later.

A kid who is arrested for pot is an individual person.....The track record of groups of politicians and bureaucrats spending OPM, with zero culpability for their actions, is a horse of quite a different color.

That was a better try than most around here, though.

 

[Avatar4321]

Republicans set to just say no to jobs bill

Of course Republicans say no to jobs bill. They don't want to work. Would you if you looked like this:

Could you please provide evidence that the so called jobs bill actually creates jobs? Can you provide evidence where the person in the picture you posted doesnt have a job or has something to be ashamed of because you dont like what he looks like?

Could you provide evidence that you have any connection with reality?

 

[Oddball]

No.

No.

and


No........................

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans set to just say no to jobs bill

Of course Republicans say no to jobs bill. They don't want to work. Would you if you looked like this:

Could you please provide evidence that the so called jobs bill actually creates jobs? Can you provide evidence where the person in the picture you posted doesnt have a job or has something to be ashamed of because you dont like what he looks like?
Could you provide evidence that you have any connection with reality?

Would you hire this guy?? Case closed

 

[mudwhistle]

What's the point of borrowing more billions of dollars to create jobs. The problem in Washington is a president and congress that are not listening to us thus more and more businesses do not trust them to do the right thing. They're cutting the fat and holding back on expansion because there is no trust in government and those who are in charge,.....it's as simple as that..

A jobs bill won't improve the situation one iota. Congress and President Obama need to change their attitudes before any improvement will be realized.

 

[MaggieMae]

I read it and quoted the titles of the latter sections.

It's a huge pork bill.

Note even a nice try, Chumlee.

Specify where the pork is. I have time to wait, now.

 

[MaggieMae]

What's the incentive to hire when there's no work for the new employee, numbnuts?

The better question is where are the private investors boosting small business so that they CAN hire? If a company has a saleable product, but no money to hire new people to expand, then there's something wrong with the PRIVATE SECTOR.

In my own "private little world" I see several small businesses in my small city who are ready to move back into production and are willing to risk hiring more people to do it. They also have the backing of larger publically traded companies who would, in fact, buy those products but they have been back-ordered due to layoffs and a hiring freeze. Now the smaller businesses can see light at the end of the tunnel and will start hiring again. Supply and demand. What a concept!

 

[MaggieMae]

But wait, there is more... handouts.

Black farmers – possibly over 70,000 of them – will get cash payments and debt relief from the federal government totaling $1.25 billion, in reparation for alleged racial discrimination suffered under the Department of Agriculture’s loan programs, the Obama Administration has agreed.

The president announced the deal on Thursday, applauding Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and Attorney General Eric Holder for “bringing these long-ignored claims of African American farmers to a rightful conclusion.”

Obama Giving Black Farmers $1.25B in Reparations

Yeah, I guess you'd rather see continued legal fights sucking up taxpayer money over this rather than seeing it end once and for all.