There is plenty of blame to go around, and it was his call to be there. If a man falls off a cliff, and he knew it was there and dangerous, do I only blame the cliff? True personal responsibility means when the dead guy screwed up, you get to say just that. Keep your PC never speak ill of the dead to yourself.
If a man was sent to the edge of a cliff by his bosses and he cautioned them repeatedly how dangerous it was and how he would REALLY like a safety harness but they repeatedly turned down that request...only to have the man fall to his death...would you blame the cliff...or would you blame the man's bosses who wouldn't give him the safety harness?
I'd argue THAT lawsuit against the bosses in civil court six days a week and twice on Sunday!
In this case the man knew the dangers and made the choice to be there anyway, on that particular day, and it was his decision not theirs. Now what?
The man you're speaking of DID know the dangers which is why he repeatedly asked his superiors not to draw down his security force. THAT was not his decision
There is plenty of blame to go around, and it was his call to be there. If a man falls off a cliff, and he knew it was there and dangerous, do I only blame the cliff? True personal responsibility means when the dead guy screwed up, you get to say just that. Keep your PC never speak ill of the dead to yourself.
If a man was sent to the edge of a cliff by his bosses and he cautioned them repeatedly how dangerous it was and how he would REALLY like a safety harness but they repeatedly turned down that request...only to have the man fall to his death...would you blame the cliff...or would you blame the man's bosses who wouldn't give him the safety harness?
I'd argue THAT lawsuit against the bosses in civil court six days a week and twice on Sunday!
In this case the man knew the dangers and made the choice to be there anyway, on that particular day, and it was his decision not theirs. Now what?
Blaming Chris Stevens for doing his job is about as low as it gets...he is not the person to blame for security not being what it should have been in Libya. He told the State Department that the situation was getting worse...he asked that they not draw down his security detail...blaming HIM for the State Department's failure to grasp the reality of how dangerous it was in Libya borders on the absurd.
they didn't draw down his security detail, they offered him more security
Official Amb. Stevens Refused Additional Security Military.com
A spokesman for Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, indicated some lawmakers may have known about the Stevens-Ham discussions before last week's hearing.
"There were certainly robust debates between State and Defense officials over the mission and controlling authority of such forces," Frederick Hill told McClatchy in an email. "The lack of discussion by the public [Accountability Review Board] report about the role interagency tension played in a lack of security resources remains a significant concern of the Oversight Committee..
and Issa found NOTHING .
end of story.
I've heard this same talking point repeated by Clinton apologists and it completely misrepresents what took place, Siete. Yes, General Ham did in fact offer Stevens a military detachment twice and yes, Stevens in fact did turn him down twice. What you conveniently ignore however is the REASON why Stevens had no choice but to turn Ham down.
The security force that had just been pulled out of Libya at the order of the State Department was from the Department of Defense but it was under the command of the State Department and as such had the same diplomatic immunity that diplomats would have. The security detachment that Ham offered twice would not have had that same immunity since it was not under State Department command but rather under the DoD's command. With no status of forces agreement in place with Libya then those DoD troops that Ham was offering would have been subject to arrest and being put on trial by the Libyans simply for doing their jobs. That was why Stevens had to turn down Ham's offer...not because he didn't want security. The State Department didn't want the security Stevens requested for Libya because of the image it created...so the State Department was telling Stevens to literally stop asking for it because it wasn't going to be granted. Stevens couldn't take Ham up on his offer because the State Department wouldn't let him do so.
To say that Stevens "turned down security" is a complete misrepresentation of what actually took place. Right up until the end, Stevens was asking the State Department for additional security and right up to the end, the State Department was turning him down.