Republicans fail to make any rational argument why society must force full term gestation on all women. Their failed arguments are examined here:

[whutTHEYsay]

Eh, women are not "under assault."

two have died due to the abortion ban in Georgia. What do you want to call the Republican white Christian abortion bans causing woman to die if you don’t like the word assault being used to describe it.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Nice, nice grandpa my glasses. Don’t touch my glasses. Stay on my face so I can see. No no no no no no no don’t pull my hair now. I’ll pull your hair. If I pull your hair no, no no no no no no no no no my glasses no , never mind don’t like glasses no, no no Rudolph Rudolph you even say the other reindeer, a reindeer in her hair Rudolph reindeer Christmas Santa Individuals vote on their rights.

perhaps you wish that was true because under those circumstances, racial minorities would never have rights.

 

[Papageorgio]

The community decides what are the rights of its members. That's like duh. The same applies to Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, non-religious organizations..etc, all human communities decide what is acceptable behavior for its members and what isn't. This holds true for everyone, regardless of whether you're in a religious community or a secular one, it's human beings who decide what is proper and what isn't. My morality is one based on survival and human progress and success. Whatever contributes to the flourishing of human life is good, whatever undermines it is bad. See how simple that was?

Reducing human beings to a zygote, embryo or half-brained fetus, is stupid, especially when you're forcing women (actual human beings), by government mandate to remain pregnant for nine months, bearing all of the cost and risks that come with it. You have the gall to do that, while being indifferent to the needs of single, poor mothers by defunding government social programs that help them, with food, housing, healthcare, child daycare..etc. You have no right to force women to carry a zygote or an embryo to term, and that includes an undeveloped fetus early in pregnancy.

If the government doesn't have a right to mandate you wear a mask in crowded, public venues, in the middle of a deadly, nationwide pandemic, then the government doesn't have the right to force women to carry anything in their bodies for nine months.

I’m good with your stand of killing babies duh it’s your choice as I have been saying.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I’m good with your stand of killing babies duh it’s your choice as I have been saying.

Zygotes, embryos, and fetuses aren't babies or human beings, they're potentially that if pregnant women (The actual human beings in this situation) decide to allow their uteruses to develop them into actual babies. You're concern for what is in the womb of strangers, while completely disregarding their needs and rights, demonstrates you don't care about these women (The actual human beings in the equation) or the babies they will eventually give birth to and raise.

There are countless real babies, actual children, who suffer due to your right-wing, Republican politics, that defunds government social programs that serve the needs of single mothers and their children. That's what leads to the killing of actual children, whereas your concern for fetuses in the wombs of strangers, is a disingenuous ploy to control women's lives, who you've deemed "loose" or promiscuous. You don't care about these women or what they're carrying in their bodies. It's all out of your religious delusions and rancor against women who don't fall in line with your sexual hangups and values.

Keep your religion to yourself, you have no right to impose it on anyone else.

 

[TruthNotBS]

No. It doesn't. Individuals vote on their rights. There isn't a set "community" deciding individual rights.

Where are you getting this from?

Human beings, not invisible beings from another dimension, decide what their rights are. It's we, the people, who do that. Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

[initforme]

A fetus is a baby, that is truth, when you are for abortion, which you claim you are, you are killing an unwanted baby, no lie there. I think you can’t differentiate fact from anything. So when she aborted the fetus, she killed a baby, it is pretty simple logic and beyond honest. Not sure what your issue is.

Let the voters in each state decide. It's a win win win. What more would you like? Are you one who believes in the birthrate decline fake news?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Let the voters in each state decide. It's a win win win. What more would you like? Are you one who believes in the birthrate decline fake news?

Who's going to fund that woman's trip to the other state where she can receive the healthcare she needs to end her pregnancy? Will her employer fire her for leaving work for a week, while she travels to that other state? Why should women or anyone, allow the government to control women's uteruses? Violate a woman's right to opt out of nine months of pregnancy with all of its risks and costs?

Do we allow states to determine via vote if Jim Crow laws are legal or not? Is racial segregation OK, if the majority of people in a state decide racism is good? We live in a union of 50 states, a federation, hence just because a state decides something should be legal or illegal, that doesn't necessarily obligate the rest of the country to accept it. Many of these conservative states, rely heavily on the federal government to fund themselves, due to how impoverished they are. They shouldn't have the right to legislate what a woman can and can't do with her pregnancy, especially when that pregnancy is identified early.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

A fetus is a baby, that is truth

Saint Papageorgio speaks no truth regarding human gestation.

A Fetus is an unborn baby.

MAGA should not be allowed to utter the word “truth”……

This is truth. See nfbw 241018 Vrftma01202
iii. Obviously, religious Republicans in thrall of the Vatican could not possibly care less what a significant percentage of the population wants – particularly when controlling women and abridging their constitutional freedoms is at stake and under “their” theocratic purview.

iv. Moreover, a recent Supreme Court ruling in lowly Kansas determined that the religious Republican assault on women’s bodily autonomy is abominable and strictly prohibited under the Constitution. That High Court ruled that women enjoy constitutional freedoms, and protection from religious Republican men, “to control their own bodies as a basic human right” – a right the Vatican has convinced Republicans and their evangelical extremist supporters is an attack on their perceived religious freedom to regulate and control women. (author bold)

 

[Papageorgio]

Zygotes, embryos, and fetuses aren't babies or human beings, they're potentially that if pregnant women (The actual human beings in this situation) decide to allow their uteruses to develop them into actual babies. You're concern for what is in the womb of strangers, while completely disregarding their needs and rights, demonstrates you don't care about these women (The actual human beings in the equation) or the babies they will eventually give birth to and raise.

There are countless real babies, actual children, who suffer due to your right-wing, Republican politics, that defunds government social programs that serve the needs of single mothers and their children. That's what leads to the killing of actual children, whereas your concern for fetuses in the wombs of strangers, is a disingenuous ploy to control women's lives, who you've deemed "loose" or promiscuous. You don't care about these women or what they're carrying in their bodies. It's all out of your religious delusions and rancor against women who don't fall in line with your sexual hangups and values.

Keep your religion to yourself, you have no right to impose it on anyone else.

A fetus in a human being is a human being, minimize the baby if you want, like I said you can kill all the babies you want, do want you want, not sure your what your issue is. I am not imposing anything on you, so quit lying.

 

[Papageorgio]

Saint Papageorgio speaks no truth regarding human gestation.

A Fetus is an unborn baby.

MAGA should not be allowed to utter the word “truth”……

This is truth. See nfbw 241018 Vrftma01202
iii. Obviously, religious Republicans in thrall of the Vatican could not possibly care less what a significant percentage of the population wants – particularly when controlling women and abridging their constitutional freedoms is at stake and under “their” theocratic purview.

iv. Moreover, a recent Supreme Court ruling in lowly Kansas determined that the religious Republican assault on women’s bodily autonomy is abominable and strictly prohibited under the Constitution. That High Court ruled that women enjoy constitutional freedoms, and protection from religious Republican men, “to control their own bodies as a basic human right” – a right the Vatican has convinced Republicans and their evangelical extremist supporters is an attack on their perceived religious freedom to regulate and control women. (author bold)

St Stupid, I have been consistent and truthful, kill babies if you feel the need, none of my business.

 

[TruthNotBS]

A fetus in a human being is a human being, minimize the baby if you want, like I said you can kill all the babies you want, do want you want, not sure your what your issue is. I am not imposing anything on you, so quit lying.

Just because a zygote, embryo, or fetus is in a human being, doesn't automatically make it a human being. That's poor logic. Your problem is that you want to use the government to strip women of their reproductive rights, under the pretext of saving babies in their wombs. The fact is that you don't care about these women nor what is in their wombs, you just pretend you do to control them and pretend you're morally superior to those "leftists".

You do this while defunding government programs that provide vital resources to single mothers and their actual babies. Republican conservatives defund or obstruct access to food stamps, rental assistance, Medicaid, education, child daycare stipends, school lunch, and after-school programs..etc. You strip people's access to these resources, which contribute to the health and success of children.

You right-wingers, don't care about babies, especially if they're black, latino, or in Gaza now being bombed by the Zionist Jewish State. You don't care about those babies, only fetuses in the wombs of strangers. That's all you cry about.

 

[initforme]

The majority of Americans support abortion rights with restrictions. There needs to be compromise. An all out ban would not be a wise nor popular choice.

 

[Papageorgio]

Let the voters in each state decide. It's a win win win. What more would you like? Are you one who believes in the birthrate decline fake news?

I am fine with it, I am fine if you want to kill unborn babies.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

St Stupid, I have been consistent and truthful, kill babies if you feel the need, none of my business

I am fine with it, I am fine if you want to kill unborn babies.

Why do you want to kill unborn babies Saint Papageorgio?

 

[initforme]

I am fine with it, I am fine if you want to kill unborn babies.

Not my call. I have no skin in the fight. Why are you not out there promoting young married couples not having kids? Then there's no abortion

 

[Papageorgio]

Just because a zygote, embryo, or fetus is in a human being, doesn't automatically make it a human being. That's poor logic. Your problem is that you want to use the government to strip women of their reproductive rights, under the pretext of saving babies in their wombs. The fact is that you don't care about these women nor what is in their wombs, you just pretend you do to control them and pretend you're morally superior to those "leftists".

You do this while defunding government programs that provide vital resources to single mothers and their actual babies. Republican conservatives defund or obstruct access to food stamps, rental assistance, Medicaid, education, child daycare stipends, school lunch, and after-school programs..etc. You strip people's access to these resources, which contribute to the health and success of children.

You right-wingers, don't care about babies, especially if they're black, latino, or in Gaza now being bombed by the Zionist Jewish State. You don't care about those babies, only fetuses in the wombs of strangers. That's all you cry about.

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Your the one crying . Like I said, I am fine if you want to kill a baby, I am not sure what your issue with me is. I am not denying anyone the decision they make, if you want to kill an unborn bay then do it, I don’t agree with you but it is not my decision to make. I am not understanding?

Your generalization tactics are pretty stupid and dishonest for a person claiming they are truthful, so I think your moniker pretty much says you are a liar.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I am fine with it, I am fine if you want to kill unborn babies.

Early in the pregnancy, they're not human beings or babies, but you're too stupid to realize that.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Your the one crying . Like I said, I am fine if you want to kill a baby, I am not sure what your issue with me is. I am not denying anyone the decision they make, if you want to kill an unborn bay then do it, I don’t agree with you but it is not my decision to make. I am not understanding?

Your generalization tactics are pretty stupid and dishonest for a person claiming they are truthful, so I think your moniker pretty much says you are a liar.

Criminalizing a woman's right to end her pregnancy is the problem. You right-wingers are control freaks.

 

[Slyhunter]

I don't understand why the left; abortion for any reason including the 9th month and allowing the child to die if it survives the abortion, vs the ultra-right who believes procuration is the only purpose for sex. I believe 16 weeks makes a good compromise, except for medical need. I do not believe incest or rape should be an exception because it isn't the fetuses fault it happened to its mother.

 

[Papageorgio]

Why do you want to kill unborn babies Saint Papageorgio?

Who am I to fight other people’s poor decisions? Again I agree with you and you keep attacking, why? Are you not secure in your convictions?