Republican top priority.....Raise taxes on the poor

[Skull Pilot]

The Republican Party s top priority is to raise taxes on the poor. Literally. - The Week

How can you "raise" taxes on those who pay none?

The working poor pay taxes at the same time they struggle to support their families

That is what Republicans don't understand

But they pay no income taxes and get money from the government via the EITC

So they already pay less than their fair share

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Poor need to pay their fair share, they use roads and bridges, right?

 

[rightwinger]

How can you "raise" taxes on those who pay none?

I realize you're not actually looking for information but this is a dumb question.

First, no one actually pays "none" but if they were paying "none", then any amount would be an increase. Understand?

BULL SHIT... there are people who pay NONE, and even people that get PAID, as in EARNED INCOME CREDIT.

UNDERSTAND?

Moron.

That's what the Democrats don't understand. They try to equate taxes paid through state law as being the same as federal income taxes. If someone pays zero federal income tax, they pay zero state income tax in my state. If they get the EIC, what they get offsets many of those state taxes like property taxes, sales taxes, etc.

What Republicans don't understand is that taxes are still taxes whether they are levied at the local, state or federal level. You still have less money to support your family

What you don't understand is that paying from both isn't the same as only paying from one pocket. If the have less, let them find a better job. If their skills suck so badly they can't, tough shit. That doesn't mean the rest of us should offset that by default.

Good answer...find a better job

There are currently 30 million families who receive some sort of government assistance, lets implement your strategy and find them better jobs

Can you point to the data where there are 30 million "better jobs" available for these people to take?

 

[The Rabbi]

The Republican Party s top priority is to raise taxes on the poor. Literally. - The Week

How can you "raise" taxes on those who pay none?

The working poor pay taxes at the same time they struggle to support their families

That is what Republicans don't understand

No, they dont.
The working poor get more back from federal income tax than they pay into.

Another fail troll thread from Nutjobber. See my sig line.

 

[Katzndogz]

Whenever a democrat complains about republicans, it's a signal that democrats are engaged in something really nasty. In this case, they are fighting the extension of tax breaks that would benefit the already hard hit middle class.

Short sales home sellers face huge tax bills if breaks aren t reinstated - Washington Times
Without a renewed exemption, families would have to pay taxes on the forgiven mortgage debt as if it were income, although they merely avoided foreclosure and walked away from their homes without earning anything from the sales.
No tax cuts for the rich. People who used to own homes are certainly the rich democrats have in their sights. Democrat war on the middle class.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I realize you're not actually looking for information but this is a dumb question.

First, no one actually pays "none" but if they were paying "none", then any amount would be an increase. Understand?

BULL SHIT... there are people who pay NONE, and even people that get PAID, as in EARNED INCOME CREDIT.

UNDERSTAND?

Moron.

That's what the Democrats don't understand. They try to equate taxes paid through state law as being the same as federal income taxes. If someone pays zero federal income tax, they pay zero state income tax in my state. If they get the EIC, what they get offsets many of those state taxes like property taxes, sales taxes, etc.

What Republicans don't understand is that taxes are still taxes whether they are levied at the local, state or federal level. You still have less money to support your family

What you don't understand is that paying from both isn't the same as only paying from one pocket. If the have less, let them find a better job. If their skills suck so badly they can't, tough shit. That doesn't mean the rest of us should offset that by default.

Good answer...find a better job

There are currently 30 million families who receive some sort of government assistance, lets implement your strategy and find them better jobs

Can you point to the data where there are 30 million "better jobs" available for these people to take?

How about just another job?

Why are you people fixated on having only one job?

 

[g5000]

The Republican Party s top priority is to raise taxes on the poor. Literally. - The Week

Following their convincing victory in the 2014 elections, everyone is wondering what Republicans will do with their new majority in the Senate and House. Well, their policy agenda is becoming clear. It will be unrestrained class warfare against the poor.
This priority was made apparent over the last week during the negotiation of a colossal tax cut package. Senate Democrats and Republicans had been doing some low-key negotiations to renew a slew of tax cuts for corporations and lower- and middle-income Americans, according to reporting from Brian Faler and Rachel Bade at Politico.
Then President Obama announced his executive action on immigration. Enraged Republicans promptly took vengeance on all the goodies for the working poor (as well as for clean energy), cutting them out of the deal and proposing a raft of permanent tax cuts for corporations alone worth $440 billion over 10 years.

So there was going to be a tax cut for lower income.

Then that tax cut went away.

That is not raising taxes on the poor. It is leaving them exactly the same.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The Republican Party s top priority is to raise taxes on the poor. Literally. - The Week

Following their convincing victory in the 2014 elections, everyone is wondering what Republicans will do with their new majority in the Senate and House. Well, their policy agenda is becoming clear. It will be unrestrained class warfare against the poor.
This priority was made apparent over the last week during the negotiation of a colossal tax cut package. Senate Democrats and Republicans had been doing some low-key negotiations to renew a slew of tax cuts for corporations and lower- and middle-income Americans, according to reporting from Brian Faler and Rachel Bade at Politico.
Then President Obama announced his executive action on immigration. Enraged Republicans promptly took vengeance on all the goodies for the working poor (as well as for clean energy), cutting them out of the deal and proposing a raft of permanent tax cuts for corporations alone worth $440 billion over 10 years.

So there was going to be a tax cut for lower income.

Then that tax cut went away.

That is not raising taxes on the poor. It is leaving them exactly the same.

These are the same people who claim that a smaller than desired increase in spending is actually a spending cut

 

[Katzndogz]

The poor don't pay income taxes. What the poor do pay is sales taxes. Cause a rise in prices by confiscatory taxes on business and that rise is passed along to the consumer, including the poor. Only democrat policies raise taxes on the poor.

 

[blackhawk]

The only taxes the poor generally pay is what is taken out of their check if in fact they have a job in the Obama economy so their taxes are not going up.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The Republican Party s top priority is to raise taxes on the poor. Literally. - The Week

Following their convincing victory in the 2014 elections, everyone is wondering what Republicans will do with their new majority in the Senate and House. Well, their policy agenda is becoming clear. It will be unrestrained class warfare against the poor.
This priority was made apparent over the last week during the negotiation of a colossal tax cut package. Senate Democrats and Republicans had been doing some low-key negotiations to renew a slew of tax cuts for corporations and lower- and middle-income Americans, according to reporting from Brian Faler and Rachel Bade at Politico.
Then President Obama announced his executive action on immigration. Enraged Republicans promptly took vengeance on all the goodies for the working poor (as well as for clean energy), cutting them out of the deal and proposing a raft of permanent tax cuts for corporations alone worth $440 billion over 10 years.

This is just dumb... more Democrat fear mongering to the ill-informed.

a. How does a corporate tax cut increase taxes on the poor?
b. How does "clean energy" goodies equate to an advantage for the poor? What, the poor are buying windmills?

You people are insane... you really are...

 

[rightwinger]

BULL SHIT... there are people who pay NONE, and even people that get PAID, as in EARNED INCOME CREDIT.

UNDERSTAND?

Moron.

That's what the Democrats don't understand. They try to equate taxes paid through state law as being the same as federal income taxes. If someone pays zero federal income tax, they pay zero state income tax in my state. If they get the EIC, what they get offsets many of those state taxes like property taxes, sales taxes, etc.

What Republicans don't understand is that taxes are still taxes whether they are levied at the local, state or federal level. You still have less money to support your family

What you don't understand is that paying from both isn't the same as only paying from one pocket. If the have less, let them find a better job. If their skills suck so badly they can't, tough shit. That doesn't mean the rest of us should offset that by default.

Good answer...find a better job

There are currently 30 million families who receive some sort of government assistance, lets implement your strategy and find them better jobs

Can you point to the data where there are 30 million "better jobs" available for these people to take?

How about just another job?

Why are you people fixated on having only one job?

Good answer

Now lets implement it. The 30 million working poor now have the option of finding a better job or working a second job. Now, before we implement your solution, lets identify 30 million additional jobs that these people can take

Life is so easy when you are a conservative

 

[foggedinn]

The Republican Party s top priority is to raise taxes on the poor. Literally. - The Week

Following their convincing victory in the 2014 elections, everyone is wondering what Republicans will do with their new majority in the Senate and House. Well, their policy agenda is becoming clear. It will be unrestrained class warfare against the poor.
This priority was made apparent over the last week during the negotiation of a colossal tax cut package. Senate Democrats and Republicans had been doing some low-key negotiations to renew a slew of tax cuts for corporations and lower- and middle-income Americans, according to reporting from Brian Faler and Rachel Bade at Politico.
Then President Obama announced his executive action on immigration. Enraged Republicans promptly took vengeance on all the goodies for the working poor (as well as for clean energy), cutting them out of the deal and proposing a raft of permanent tax cuts for corporations alone worth $440 billion over 10 years.

I believe that Warren Buffet said the class warfare battle has already been fought; the rich won.

 

[Skull Pilot]

That's what the Democrats don't understand. They try to equate taxes paid through state law as being the same as federal income taxes. If someone pays zero federal income tax, they pay zero state income tax in my state. If they get the EIC, what they get offsets many of those state taxes like property taxes, sales taxes, etc.

What Republicans don't understand is that taxes are still taxes whether they are levied at the local, state or federal level. You still have less money to support your family

What you don't understand is that paying from both isn't the same as only paying from one pocket. If the have less, let them find a better job. If their skills suck so badly they can't, tough shit. That doesn't mean the rest of us should offset that by default.

Good answer...find a better job

There are currently 30 million families who receive some sort of government assistance, lets implement your strategy and find them better jobs

Can you point to the data where there are 30 million "better jobs" available for these people to take?

How about just another job?

Why are you people fixated on having only one job?

Good answer

Now lets implement it. The 30 million working poor now have the option of finding a better job or working a second job. Now, before we implement your solution, lets identify 30 million additional jobs that these people can take

Life is so easy when you are a conservative

There are countless ways to make extra money and not all of them involve working for someone else.

Life is tough for liberals because of their limited thinking

 

[Dana7360]

First, it's yet another reminder that Republicans don't care about the national debt. Conservative carping about the debt is 100 percent of the time a rhetorical cudgel deployed with utter cynicism against programs they dislike for other reasons. When the topic is food stamps or unemployment insurance, they demand offsets to pay for them. (Because "we're broke," as Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) put it in a similar context.) But when it comes to dropping planeloads of money on corporations and rich people, Republicans will casually blow a half-trillion hole in the 10-year budget without blinking.

How about it Republicans?

When it came to providing money to families for disaster relief or economic hardship you demanded "We need to cancel something to pay for it" We need an offset to be fiscally responsible
Yet, you throw out a $440 billion tax break to corporations with no concern over how the lost revenue will be replaced

Nobody spends money like a democrat... especially the kenyan...

One of the best democrat presidents that ever lived, JFK, even he knew that cutting taxes on the job creators/business would stimulate the economy, and when the economy grows, so does tax revenue for the government.

What part about that continually escapes modern day progtards?

JFK slashed the top tax rate to 70% and the economy was stimulated, Obamas rate is at 35%
Would you be satisfied if we returned to JFKs tax rate?

I'm sorry but JFK only proposed to do that. That tax cut didn't come until after JFK died. Johnson implemented it in 1964.

Another thing you left out was while that rate was lowered some LOOPHOLES the rich used to get out of paying their fair share of taxes were closed.

It wasn't the lowering of the rate that caused an increase of revenue. It was closing the loopholes that did it.

Cutting taxes on the rich doesn't create jobs. It only takes money out of our system and causes more deficit and debt.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The corporatists are not the friends of the working class.

They do not give pay raises if at all possible, and they take away jobs whenever possible.

Cut corporate loop holes.

 

[Billy000]

Let's just forget republicans actually care about the national debt. They are perfectly content with adding billions to it.

On top of that, they are ending income tax credits for the poor.

The Republican Party s top priority is to raise taxes on the poor. Literally.

"Massive transfers of money to the rich are one half of the Republican economic policy agenda; massive transfers of money away from poor are the other half. And the cuts would be cruel indeed:

For example, a single mother with two children working full time in a nursing home for the minimum wage and earning $14,500 would lose herentire [Child Tax Credit] of $1,725 if the CTC provision expires. [CBPP]"

 

[rightwinger]

What Republicans don't understand is that taxes are still taxes whether they are levied at the local, state or federal level. You still have less money to support your family

What you don't understand is that paying from both isn't the same as only paying from one pocket. If the have less, let them find a better job. If their skills suck so badly they can't, tough shit. That doesn't mean the rest of us should offset that by default.

Good answer...find a better job

There are currently 30 million families who receive some sort of government assistance, lets implement your strategy and find them better jobs

Can you point to the data where there are 30 million "better jobs" available for these people to take?

How about just another job?

Why are you people fixated on having only one job?

Good answer

Now lets implement it. The 30 million working poor now have the option of finding a better job or working a second job. Now, before we implement your solution, lets identify 30 million additional jobs that these people can take

Life is so easy when you are a conservative

There are countless ways to make extra money and not all of them involve working for someone else.

Life is tough for liberals because of their limited thinking

Great...lets do it!

Identify all those unfilled lawn mowing and baby sitting jobs that will enable the working poor to make extra money. You only have to find 30 million unfilled positions or opportunities. There have to be 30 million people somewhere who need their lawns mowed

Keep in mind you are changing public policy. Before you do that you have to be sure that those added positions and work opportunities are there

 

[TooTall]

First, it's yet another reminder that Republicans don't care about the national debt. Conservative carping about the debt is 100 percent of the time a rhetorical cudgel deployed with utter cynicism against programs they dislike for other reasons. When the topic is food stamps or unemployment insurance, they demand offsets to pay for them. (Because "we're broke," as Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) put it in a similar context.) But when it comes to dropping planeloads of money on corporations and rich people, Republicans will casually blow a half-trillion hole in the 10-year budget without blinking.

How about it Republicans?

When it came to providing money to families for disaster relief or economic hardship you demanded "We need to cancel something to pay for it" We need an offset to be fiscally responsible
Yet, you throw out a $440 billion tax break to corporations with no concern over how the lost revenue will be replaced

The Democrats will block any attempt to lower corporate taxes even though they know that it very well could cause many corporations that are keeping profits made overseas to bring the billions back to the US and invest in expansion and create jobs.

That is what will result in a huge increase in revenue.

What happened when Bush cut those corporate rates?

Did they respond with more jobs? No, they just kept the extra money

How about it Republicans? Where do we we make up for the lost $440 Billion in lost revenue? You can tell us
Take the money away from the poor

Unemployment averaged 5.8% during Bush's administration. I already told you!

 

[g5000]

a. How does a corporate tax cut increase taxes on the poor?

A tax cut for one group means another group is going to have to pay more to make up the difference, or a deficit.