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[PoliticalChic]

You fail to understand that this is all moot considering the fact that the state department doesn't have to allow him to stay in the US because he's showing support of terrorist organizations while on green card status.
They simply have decided to revoke his green card and boot him out of the country.

Not to mention the fact that he represents a group that committed acts of vandalism that amounted to a large amount of damage. Damages against a university that amounted in the millions of dollars.
He's lucky they didn't charge him like the Jan 6th protesters.

IF it were moot, you wouldn't be coming back.

Our side should not simply replicate theirs when we are in power.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm going to refer you to right here:

Student Visa

You must have a student visa to study in the United States. Your course of study and the type of school you plan to attend determine whether you need an F visa or an M visa.

travel.state.gov

And then..right here:
"
ENGAGE IN TERRORIST ACTIVITY DEFINED- As used in this chapter, the term "engage in terrorist activity" means, in an individual capacity or as a member of an organization-


(I) to commit or to incite to commit, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily injury, a terrorist activity;


(II) to prepare or plan a terrorist activity;


(III) to gather information on potential targets for terrorist activity;


(IV) to solicit funds or other things of value for--


(aa) a terrorist activity;


(bb) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or


(cc) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;


(V) to solicit any individual--


(aa) to engage in conduct otherwise described in this subsection;


(bb) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or


(cc) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III) unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; or


(VI) to commit an act that the actor knows, or reasonably should know, affords material support, including a safe house, transportation, communications, funds, transfer of funds or other material financial benefit, false documentation or identification, weapons (including chemical, biological, or radiological weapons), explosives, or training--


(aa) for the commission of a terrorist activity;


(bb) to any individual who the actor knows, or reasonably should know, has committed or plans to commit a terrorist activity;


(cc) to a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi) or to any member of such an organization; or


(dd) to a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), or to any member of such an organization, unless the actor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the actor did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization.
ENGAGE IN TERRORIST ACTIVITY DEFINED- As used in this chapter, the term "engage in terrorist activity" means, in an individual capacity or as a member of an organization-


(I) to commit or to incite to commit, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily injury, a terrorist activity;


(II) to prepare or plan a terrorist activity;


(III) to gather information on potential targets for terrorist activity;


(IV) to solicit funds or other things of value for--


(aa) a terrorist activity;


(bb) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or


(cc) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;


(V) to solicit any individual--
ENGAGE IN TERRORIST ACTIVITY DEFINED- As used in this chapter, the term "engage in terrorist activity" means, in an individual capacity or as a member of an organization-


(I) to commit or to incite to commit, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily injury, a terrorist activity;


(II) to prepare or plan a terrorist activity;


(III) to gather information on potential targets for terrorist activity;


(IV) to solicit funds or other things of value for--


(aa) a terrorist activity;


(bb) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or


(cc) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;


(V) to solicit any individual--


(aa) to engage in conduct otherwise described in this subsection;


(bb) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or


(cc) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III) unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; or


(VI) to commit an act that the actor knows, or reasonably should know, affords material support, including a safe house, transportation, communications, funds, transfer of funds or other material financial benefit, false documentation or identification, weapons (including chemical, biological, or radiological weapons), explosives, or training--


(aa) for the commission of a terrorist activity;


(bb) to any individual who the actor knows, or reasonably should know, has committed or plans to commit a terrorist activity;


(cc) to a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi) or to any member of such an organization; or


(dd) to a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), or to any member of such an organization, unless the actor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the actor did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization.

(aa) to engage in conduct otherwise described in this subsection;


(bb) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or


(cc) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III) unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; or


(VI) to commit an act that the actor knows, or reasonably should know, affords material support, including a safe house, transportation, communications, funds, transfer of funds or other material financial benefit, false documentation or identification, weapons (including chemical, biological, or radiological weapons), explosives, or training--


(aa) for the commission of a terrorist activity;


(bb) to any individual who the actor knows, or reasonably should know, has committed or plans to commit a terrorist activity;


(cc) to a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi) or to any member of such an organization; or


(dd) to a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), or to any member of such an organization, unless the actor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the actor did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization."

Ineligibilities and Waivers: Laws

travel.state.gov

Now tell me, O Columbia graduate girl: Is HAMAS a designated terrorist organization?
Yes or No.

Was there an apology in there?

Did I miss it?

 

[PoliticalChic]

And the fact is when a person instigates violence and antisemitic protests on campus , encourages harm to Jewish Americans, and supports terrorist organizations, and that person is not a citizen but rather a person here as a permanent guest of the USA, that person has stepped over the line and becomes deportable.

Allowing non citizens to undermine our government, disturb the peace, instigate unrest on college campuses, threaten Jewish Americans, support terrorist organizations, etc. under a misguided notion that their constitutional protection of free speech overrides all the rest of that is just nuts.

Columbia should have taken care of that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Seems to be a wall that goes up when Jews are being persecuted. People that I THOUGHT I knew and THOUGHT were on the same page, suddenly support the persecutors. They become blind to the abuses against Jews and surround and protect TERRORISTS.

You lost the argument, so you're gonna claim antiSemitism.


Transparent.

 

[eagle1462010]

IF it were moot, you wouldn't be coming back.

Our side should not simply replicate theirs when we are in power.

Play nice. Lol

And lose our country to this IDIOCY.

I think not. It is time to push back. Restore order. They have NO RIGHT TO THREATEN JEWISH STUDENTS AT THESE UNIVERSITIES.

They should be in jail for that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How so? He is Not A Citizen.

He gets to go to courr. Executive orderrs are bound to challenge by rhe courts.

I have No Sympathy for these Pali Protesters. None. They used fear and intimidation on that campus.

Yeah id toss that asshole out myself.

Write this down so I don't have to keep repeating it: he is covered by the Constitution.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I’ve watched this past administration destroy title IX so they could fulfill their sexual fantasies, and were cheered on by the left.

I did not let that horse out of the barn snowflake.

You seem wayyyyyyyyyy more interested in protecting the perceived right of a none citizen who created havoc to AMERICAN CITIZENS, then you appear to be concerned about our most innocent CONSTITUTIONALLY protected AMERICAN citizens. Why?

I think we all know why.

Sorry, I won't allow changing the subject.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If he were an American I would support his “right” to spout racist nonsense, that’s proven by my never trying to get IM2 banned. But Khalil ISN’T an American. He is a guest here.

Constitution gives him the same right of free speech.
True story.

 

[Foxfyre]

Fyi

As a green card holder he is not only a permanent guest, he can get his U.S. citizenship after 5 years (of which 30 months has to be lived in America).

If you're a green card holder with no special circumstances, you can apply for United States citizenship at least five years after obtaining your green card. You also must have physically lived in the U.S. for at least 30 months (two-and-a-half years) out of those five years.

How to Become a U.S. Citizen 🇺🇸 Boundless U.S. Citizenship Guide

Learn everything you need to about the U.S. naturalization process, eligibility, costs, and how to apply for U.S. citizenship.

www.google.com

The man instigates unrest, even violence, on college campuses, encourages mistreatment of CITIZEN Jewish people and openly supports what are designated as terrorist groups.

Why in the world could anybody condone even thinking such a person deserves U.S. citizenship? Khalil\s support of Hamas and Hezbollah alone qualify him as an undesirable and subject to deportation whether or not he officially violated any U.S. laws.

Why Are Visa and Green-Card Holders Being Detained and Deported? - Herman Legal Group

why are green card and visa holders being detained and deported. what are the legal reaons and is this even constitutional?

www.lawfirm4immigrants.com

". . .C. Security and Terrorism-Related Concerns
LPRs who support terrorist organizations or are linked to espionage or sabotage may be detained by CBP under national security grounds.

Examples of Security-Related Violations​

• Being associated with terrorist groups
• Conspiring to harm the U.S. government
• Participating in human trafficking . . ."

 

[PoliticalChic]

I, too, am speaking as a far right Constitutional Conservative, Christian, and free-thinking individual. I seek truth and do NOT tread the path of political correctness (whether on the left or right side of the political aisle).

I believe in the 1st Amendment of the Constitution and I will fight for a person's right to express his or her beliefs even if I disagree with them.

I voted for Trump and appreciate much of what he's doing but I disagree with him on a few things (vaccines; banning bump-stocks; red flag laws; being Israel's puppet; to name a couple). Exiling people simply because you disagree with their views is wrong no matter how you slice the pie. I consider actions like that to be political persecution (something Trump should be acutely aware of).

I don't know much about Mahmoud Khalil and I probably disagree with him on a number of issues but if he's in America legally and isn't a criminal, then I support his right to think and feel as he chooses. If my people were being slaughtered and carpet bombed I'd likely voice my concern. If this Khalil fellow has lost family members and friends in the Israeli massacre then he's likely filled with deep emotion and is lifting his voice in opposition to the ongoing Holocaust occurring in his native country.
Can you blame him?

And contrary to popular and misguided belief, the current State of Israel is NOT America's ally. What a farce! What a scam! What a fraud! The current State of Israel is actually anti-American and certainly anti-Christian. But we never hear about the term "anti-Christian." We only hear the term "anti-Semite." You can be anti-White or anti-Christian or anti-American all day long but don't you dare be anti-Semitic. That's the cardinal sin (for some, odd reason).

For the record, I'm completely opposed to the myriad of Jews who lead the Demwit Party. George Soros comes to mind. Adam Schiff comes to mind. Chuck Schumer comes to mind. And the list is long. America's Federal Reserve Bank is run by the Jewish banking cartel and they have America by the balls. Remember the old biblical saying: "The borrower is a slave to the lender." The Bible warns us about usury (interest on loans) and usurers (bankers). America is in debt to the tune of 32 Trillion Dollars (give or take). So who is the slave in this scenario?

Don't be duped! Open your eyes. If you're a product of the public fool system and/or one of America's mainstream churches that teach that modern Jews are "God's Chosen People" then you've been lied to for most of your life. It's time to take a closer look at history and it's time to re-think your position.

I was with you right up to the statements about Israel, an ally just ans any other ally is.

I have been there, and consider myself a Zioinist.

About allies......“England has no eternal friends, England has no perpetual enemies, England has only eternal and perpetual interests.” Palmerston was saying that national interests should drive the relationships"

 

[eagle1462010]

Write this down so I don't have to keep repeating it: he is covered by the Constitution.

Has he been denied a court hearing?

Nope.

Write that down.

 

[Foxfyre]

Columbia should have taken care of that.

The point is, the notion that people who neither share nor respect basic American values, have no respect for its flag, instigate unrest on college campuses, are anti-semitic to an unreasonable degree, and most especially who support groups designated terrorist by the U.S. government are not desirable as citizens. It is absurd to think they should have all U.S. protection as citizens just because at one point they were issued a green card.

At some point common sense tells us that this person has stepped over the line way beyond protections of free speech.

C. Security and Terrorism-Related Concerns​

LPRs who support terrorist organizations or are linked to espionage or sabotage may be detained by CBP under national security grounds.

Examples of Security-Related Violations​

• Being associated with terrorist groups
• Conspiring to harm the U.S. government
• Participating in human trafficking

Why Are Visa and Green-Card Holders Being Detained and Deported? - Herman Legal Group

why are green card and visa holders being detained and deported. what are the legal reaons and is this even constitutional?

www.lawfirm4immigrants.com

 

[PoliticalChic]

The point is, the notion that people who neither share nor respect basic American values, have no respect for its flag, instigate unrest on college campuses, are anti-semitic to an unreasonable degree, and most especially who support groups designated terrorist by the U.S. government are not desirable as citizens. It is absurd to think they should have all U.S. protection as citizens just because at one point they were issued a green card.

At some point common sense tells us that this person has stepped over the line way beyond protections of free speech.

C. Security and Terrorism-Related Concerns​

LPRs who support terrorist organizations or are linked to espionage or sabotage may be detained by CBP under national security grounds.

Examples of Security-Related Violations​

• Being associated with terrorist groups
• Conspiring to harm the U.S. government
• Participating in human trafficking

Why Are Visa and Green-Card Holders Being Detained and Deported? - Herman Legal Group

why are green card and visa holders being detained and deported. what are the legal reaons and is this even constitutional?

www.lawfirm4immigrants.com

"...people who neither share nor respect basic American values, have no respect for its flag, instigate unrest on college campuses, are anti-semitic to an unreasonable degree,...."

Do you not recognize that you are describing Democrats?

Do you want them all deported?

 

[eagle1462010]

The point is, the notion that people who neither share nor respect basic American values, have no respect for its flag, instigate unrest on college campuses, are anti-semitic to an unreasonable degree, and most especially who support groups designated terrorist by the U.S. government are not desirable as citizens. It is absurd to think they should have all U.S. protection as citizens just because at one point they were issued a green card.

At some point common sense tells us that this person has stepped over the line way beyond protections of free speech.

C. Security and Terrorism-Related Concerns​

LPRs who support terrorist organizations or are linked to espionage or sabotage may be detained by CBP under national security grounds.

Examples of Security-Related Violations​

• Being associated with terrorist groups
• Conspiring to harm the U.S. government
• Participating in human trafficking

Why Are Visa and Green-Card Holders Being Detained and Deported? - Herman Legal Group

why are green card and visa holders being detained and deported. what are the legal reaons and is this even constitutional?

www.lawfirm4immigrants.com

Europe is learning this the hard way now?

Idiocy to let so many in who WILL NEVER ADAPT TO A NEW CULTURE

 

[eagle1462010]

"...people who neither share nor respect basic American values, have no respect for its flag, instigate unrest on college campuses, are anti-semitic to an unreasonable degree,...."

Do you not recognize that you are describing Democrats?

Do you want them all deported?

How do deport a REAL U.S. CITIZEN??

TO WHERE?

This guy IS NOT A CITIZEN.

 

[Foxfyre]

Europe is learning this the hard way now?

Idiocy to let so many in who WILL NEVER ADAPT TO A NEW CULTURE

Absolutely. This is far far beyond just a free speech issue. We already have what is most likely an all citizen deep state that is attempting to dismantle America as we know it. Importing people to help them and defending them as if the issue is no more than just allowing them their opinions is just wrong.

 

[eagle1462010]

Absolutely. This is far far beyond just a free speech issue. We already have what is most likely an all citizen deep state that is attempting to dismantle America as we know it. Importing people to help them and defending them as if the issue is no more than just allowing them their opinions is just wrong.

Well they can go to hell. They keep threatening citizens they will eventually

FAFO.

Notice how they dont give a damn about how the Jews on that campus were terrorized.

Time for a beat down on these protests

 

[Foxfyre]

"...people who neither share nor respect basic American values, have no respect for its flag, instigate unrest on college campuses, are anti-semitic to an unreasonable degree,...."

Do you not recognize that you are describing Democrats?

Do you want them all deported?

By law we cannot deport citizens no matter how undesirable. But it is insane to import non citizens to help them. Khalil is not a U.S. citizen and his behavior shows him as not the sort of people we want as U.S. citizens.

The President has no power to remove corrupt citizens from the country. But he can certainly approve ICE and the CBP removing non citizens who present national security threats or otherwise are undesirable as citizens. Instigating campus unrest to the point of unlawfulness, encouraging violating the rights of Jewish citizens, supporting terrorist groups is not what we want of citizens. It goes far beyond any standard protection of free speech under the Constitution.

Edit: I am NOT anti immigrant at all. I have done hands on work helping new immigrant families assimilate into U.S. society. I have taught Constitution to new immigrants (plus a few citizens who asked to be included.) I have worked with, befriended, been neighbors with a number of immigrants. I am all for new immigrants who come here to be Americans, who respect our laws, our values, our flag, our Constitution, our people. They can be Democrat, Republican, apolitical or whatever and it doesn't matter. If they become good citizens they are welcome.

But to allow immigrants, not yet naturalized, to stay here who disrespect our laws, our values, our flag, our Constitution, our people and who pose a national security threat by defending and supporting terrorist groups. . .

That's just nuts.

 

[Foxfyre]

IF it were moot, you wouldn't be coming back.

Our side should not simply replicate theirs when we are in power.

Do you really equate stirring up unrest and lawlessness on college campuses, disrespecting and encouraging violation of rights to Jewish Americans, supporting terrorist organizations etc. with what happened January 6?

You do not see any difference between those two things?

Ejecting non-citizen security risks from our midst is what our Constitution authorizes our government to do. Failure to do that is to invite grief and destruction to our country.

Lawfare makes up or exaggerates crimes to take down political opponents. That is bad government unacceptable to all honorable Americans.

Ejecting non citizens who should not be here is what good government does. All honorable Americans should demand it.

 

[HeyNorm]

Has he been denied a court hearing?

Nope.

Write that down.

Doesn’t matter, it won’t answer. It’s a snowflakes greatest defense.