Remember Trump saying he was going to end the war before he takes office?

[YoursTruly]

Here is the deal Trump will put on the table:

1) Russia keeps all occupied territory
2) Ukraine is not allowed to join NATO
3) all sanctions on Russia will be lifted

What normal, educated humans would call a simple cease fire at the price of giving Russia everything they want, allowing Russia to regroup and be ready for when their useful idiot leaves office, and when normal world starts to talk about letting Ukraine into NATO again.

What happens between Russia and Ukraine is one of our business.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

What does any of that matter if we end up with the same results as the dems would've given us? These dem-lite Republicans, like Trump, Johnson and Thune, did nothing but cave to the left on almost all issues.

What do you want from your Republican party? Dem lites? Or actual conservatives?

I want To win and get the woke out of America.

 

[YoursTruly]

I want To win and get the woke out of America.

Yeah, me too. But putting a Republican in office with a 4 year record of either caving to or appeasing the left isn't going to solve anything.
You're team won the election. Whoop ti do. Elections are meaningless when they don't follow through.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Yeah, me too. But putting a Republican in office with a 4 year record of either caving to or appeasing the left isn't going to solve anything.
You're team won the election. Whoop ti do. Elections are meaningless when they don't follow through.

Thanks. We won.

 

[YoursTruly]

Thanks. We won.

The last time Trump won anything was the 2016 election. His 8 year losing streak finally ended. I bet he's glad.
By 2018, we were all supposed to be tired of winning.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The last time Trump won anything was the 2016 election. His 8 year losing streak finally ended. I bet he's glad.
By 2018, we were all supposed to be tired of winning.

Wokism must die. Do you agree or disagree?

 

[YoursTruly]

Wokism must die. Do you agree or disagree?

It's been dying for the last year. Try to keep up. DeSantis is leading the pack, when it comes to killing woke. Trump doesn't even mention it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It's been dying for the last year. Try to keep up. DeSantis is leading the pack, when it comes to killing woke. Trump doesn't even mention it.

Of course he does.

 

[AntonToo]

Ask us again in 54 days.

Damn you are dumb.

It will be exactly same as today, for staters because citizen Trump can't negotiate with our adversaries on behalf of United States.

 

[YoursTruly]

Damn you are dumb.

It will be exactly same as today, for staters because citizen Trump can't negotiate with our adversaries on behalf of United States.

Then Trump shouldn't have lied and said he could end the war before taking office.

 

[AntonToo]

Then Trump shouldn't have lied and said he could end the war before taking office.

Should? You seriously think Trump or his Trumptards give any crap about propriety?

Trump will say anything he thinks he has to say to get into power. His specialty is completely shamelessly selling stupid fantasies to dupes who don't know better.

This is whoolleee different ballgame.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Damn you are dumb.

It will be exactly same as today, for staters because citizen Trump can't negotiate with our adversaries on behalf of United States.

What prevents him from Calling Putin and Zelensky and telling them "gosh fellas. It would be nice to have a cease-fire in place before I even swear in again. That'd be a good sign from both of you that you're ready to negotiate seriously."

Not saying that he'll do that exactly. But he is not prohibited from talking to foreign leaders about his plans when he takes office again. He'll do something, and it will work, if his history is a guide.

Remember how Democrats loved it when John Kerry bragged that he had talked to foreign leaders who told him "you gotta beat this guy?"

That was during Bush Derangement, not Trump Derangement, IRRC.

 

[AntonToo]

What prevents him from Calling Putin and Zelensky and telling them "gosh fellas. It would be nice to have a cease-fire in place before I even swear in again. That'd be a good sign from both of you that you're ready to negotiate seriously."

Well for starters because it's stupid to make calls about what is already well understood.

Zelensky and Putin know very well what Trump was promissing during campaign...of course aside from that they have THOUSANDS OF THEIR PEOPLE DYING EVERYDAY and what Trump would like in itself is not a factor of any weight.

Trump would have to make VERY SERIOUS AND SPECIFIC THREATS on behalf of United States to somehow wrestle these people into what they of course have no interest in doing otherwise.

If you think Trump can just wink-and-nod his way out of this bloody conflict then you don't know how any of this works.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Well for starters because it's stupid to make calls about what is already well understood.

Your opinion.

But Trump is not prohibited from calling foreign leaders every hour on the hour, if he so chooses, is my point.

Zelensky and Putin know very well what Trump was promissing...of course aside from that they had THOUSANDS OF ******* PEOPLE DYING EVERYDAY and what Trump would like in itself is not a factor of any weight.

Of course what Trump would like is important to the Dictator Putin and Dictator Zelinsky.

Trump would have to make VERY SERIOUS AND SPECIFIC THREATS on behalf of United States to somehow wrestle these people into what they of course have no interest in doing otherwise.

Yes.

Your point?

 

[AntonToo]

Your opinion.

But Trump is not prohibited from calling foreign leaders every hour on the hour, if he so chooses, is my point.

Of course what Trump would like is important to the Dictator Putin and Dictator Zelinsky.

Yes.

Your point?

The point is he is not a POTUS untill Jan 21st, Joe Biden is in charge untill then and Trump's bare word without any serious agreements signed is worth right about f-all.

 

[AntonToo]

Your opinion.

But Trump is not prohibited from calling foreign leaders every hour on the hour, if he so chooses, is my point.

Do you remember why Michael Flynn went to jail?

He was lying to FBI about negotiating with Russians.

Why was he lying? Because he knew it's improper to negotiate with American adversaries and undermine current administration.

 

[YoursTruly]

Should? You seriously think Trump or his Trumptards give any crap about propriety?

Trump will say anything he thinks he has to say to get into power. His specialty is completely shamelessly selling stupid fantasies to dupes who don't know better.

This is whoolleee different ballgame.

I said shouldn't have lied. But, you're spot on with your assessment of Trump supporters. To them, he could absolutely do anything, include lying, and still get their support.

He assaulted out 2A, and they still support him. Spent $8 trillion, and they still support him. Didn't secure the border, and they still supporting him.
And he lied about those and so many others, and they still support him.

 

[j-mac]

Don't be ridiculous. But come to think of it, lying should be an impeachable offence.

Do you agree with that?

If that were the case, dems would all be impeached.

 

[j-mac]

Do you remember why Michael Flynn went to jail?

He was lying to FBI about negotiating with Russians.

Why was he lying? Because he knew it's improper to negotiate with American adversaries and undermine current administration.

Like John Kerry did with Iran?

 

[Seymour Flops]

The point is he is not a POTUS untill Jan 21st,

But he will be potus then. What's wrong with a little planning?

You are having a hard time articulating what your exact objection is to Trump bringing about peace in Europe?

Joe Biden is in charge until then

IKR? Like a nightmare isn't it? Most lame duck presidents focus on making a little scratch by dealing pardons and signing book deals. Biden's handlers are in a mad rush to do as many stupid things as possible, and they have twenty days left to do them in.

They can literally "go nuclear," and they are one demented figurehead lead by people driven to insanity by their loss.

and Trump's bare word without any serious agreements signed is worth right about f-all.

No evidence of that, whatsoever. Trump is the one American leader both our allies and our enemies can believe will keep his word.

If any of them needs to see it on paper, Trump can sign anything he wants about what he will do when he takes office. Assuming the Dems don't kill him first, or decided to push the button rather than live through Trump 2.0.