Remember the H1N1 Pandemic? I Don’t Either

[jknowgood]

So you say he didn't do enough, then you say he did too much? Thanks for proving you're a bias prick.

No, I'm saying what he did was wrong, not based on science and based on his own, "How can I use this to get my racist supporters worked up!" thinking.

So instead of calmly screening and isolating people from infected areas, he created a huge panic where everyone rushed to get back, got put in crowded areas with other people rushing to get places, and the infection spread.

Lol, is that before as you say. He did nothing.

 

[JoeB131]

Lol, is that before as you say. He did nothing.

Go back. Read what I said. Have someone explain the big words to you.

 

[Ame®icano]

Are people still stupid, or they suddenly got much smarter? You use "people are stupid" as excuse to defend your boy Barry disastrous record on H1N1, but your TDS doesn't allow you to give the same benefit of the doubt for Trump.

No, Trump doesn't get the benefit of any doubt because he's an illegal president who fucked this up.

The fact is, when President Obama reacted to H1N1, you guys all accused him of trying to use it to get ObamaCare passed. You weren't worried about it then. The ONLY reason why you are bringing it up now is that you think it's a diversion, when the two things are nowhere near the same thing.

"illegal president"

As opposed to Kenyan, who was legal.

There you go... TDS at its best. Barry did nothing wrong, and orange man bad. REEEEEE

 

[rightwinger]

Nobody remembers that because the media didn't obsess on it. As long as our great President, Trumpy, is in charge, the media will obsess on how he is responsible for the pandemic. How effed up is that?

Yes, the damned media around the globe made it up just to make Trump look bad

Damned Italians!

 

[Ame®icano]

What were the stats on H1N1 one month after it was pronounced?

Couldn't find data for one month, but here are some dates for comparison.

April 15, 2009 - First case in California
April 26, 2009 - Public Health Emergency declared
April 28, 2009 - FDA approved new CDC test
May 1, 2009 - shipments of new CDC test to detect H1N1 began
June 25, 2009 - 1 million cases
August 20, 2009 - second wave begun
September 15, 2009 - The FDA approved four H1N1 vaccines.
October 1, 2009 - first vaccines given in US
November 12, 2009 - CDC released numbers for first 6 months (April - October)

 

[Ame®icano]

The truth is, at this point, my state's fatality rate and the nation's fatality rate from COVID-19 is right around 1%. We are going to have to decide if it's worth crashing our entire economy over a disease that, yes, is highly contagious, but brings with it a fatality rate of around 1%.

I'm guessing most people are going to say no.

Economy has already crashed, and it ain't coming back any time soon. Trump is finished, so there's no point in risking more lives to save his worthless reputation.

"Trump is finished"

LOL

 

[toobfreak]

Only those who are trying to slip it under the rug don't remember it.

Well, most of us had bigger worries, like the complete economic collapse Bush had given us.

DO PLEASE entertain us Joe with your bullshit fantasies about how Bush controlled or had responsibly in how investment bankers on Wall Street handled their business or how it was Bush and not the actual Congress with the power to enact laws which enacted sweeping changes allowing unsecured loans to low income people that set into motion the banking collapse.

 

[jknowgood]

Lol, is that before as you say. He did nothing.

Go back. Read what I said. Have someone explain the big words to you.

You're all over the place. You mixing up your talking points.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Remember the H1N1 Pandemic? I Don’t Either​

https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...nt_either.html
March 16, 2020 ~~ By Brian C.Joondeph, MD
America is in the grips of a panic the likes of which we haven’t seen before. What exactly is a pandemic, other than a scary sounding word from science fiction movies? According to WHO, “Pandemic refers to an epidemic that has spread over several countries or continents, usually affecting a large number of people.”
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Wuhan virus is not the first viral pandemic America has had to contend with. The last one was the H1N1 virus from 2009. How did America react to that last pandemic 10 years ago? Does anyone have more than a vague recollection of H1N1, also known as swine flu? No one will forget this current panic, but most have forgotten H1N1.
During the swine flu pandemic, were there mass cancellations of events including conferences, concerts, sporting events, and entire professional sports leagues? Did colleges cancel classes, finishing the remainder of their semesters online? Were travel restrictions imposed between America and Europe? Were panicked Americans hoarding everything from toilet paper to pasta?
~~ snip ~~
If these things happened during the swine flu pandemic, I certainly have no recollection. In 2009, congressional Democrat leaders weren’t criticizing the president, instead they were trying to force through a government takeover of healthcare, known as Obama-Care. Criticizing its namesake wasn’t in the media’s playbook and they all but ignored the swine flu.
What a difference a decade and a president makes.
~~ snip ~~
How did the media react in 2009? The NY Times praised Obama’s leadership. From a May 1, 2009 article,
A week after his administration first received word about a deadly flu spreading across Mexico, President Obama convened his cabinet on Friday and instructed every agency to play a role in preparing the United States for a pandemic.
The president’s comments came at the end of a week long balancing act in which his public words and actions were carefully measured to summon a sense of urgency without setting off a panic. It was no coincidence, his aides said, that he played golf the day his administration declared a national emergency.
Imagine if Trump played golf last week. I’m sure the media would just mention it in passing as an example of President Trump trying to avoid setting off a panic.
Otherwise the two presidents did much the same, convening their cabinets, creating a game plan, and insisting on interagency cooperation. Was media reaction the same? Hardly.
Good luck finding a description of Trump’s response to coronavirus from any newspaper or cable news show comparable to how they reported on Obama as he faced the swine flu pandemic. What a difference a president makes.
Swine flu came and went, leaving a far greater swath of destruction compared to the current coronavirus outbreak. The economic and societal disruption from the reaction to coronavirus is likely to be far worse to whatever damage the virus does. Yet the reactions are far different, flames of panic stoked by the media. Most don’t remember the swine flu pandemic but will certainly remember the current chaos.
What’s the difference? The occupant of the White House and an upcoming election. And ponder this timing. The WHO declared coronavirus a global health emergency within a week of President Trump’s impeachment acquittal in the Senate. Do you believe in coincidences?



Comment:
Anyone who is cogent with a memory that reaches back to 2009 would agree with Dr. Joondeph. The fact is that the Obama administration with the cooperating media downplayed the infectious virus until over one hundred fifty of thousand were infected and more than 5,000 died of the illness.
It will be a cold day in hell before those Communists apologize for their carelessness in allowing researchers to sell infected animals to be used in food or admit they created this thing as a bio weapon that got out of the lab. They will neither apologize for their complicity (which being the born liars they are have tried to pin blame on the US) or offer any sort of compensation to victims or countries that have been victimized by their stupidity. Tell me again why we have any kind of relationship with these people?
IMHO, if Trump were not in office, the American people would be as ignorant about the Wuhan Covid-19 as they were about H1N1. Swine flu.
We have, right now, a one in a million death rate from Wuhan Covid-19 and we are shutting down our society. We should be embarrassed that we can be panicked so easily. We didn't even panic buying during the Cuban missile crisis and those were nukes pointed at us. We've become a nation of Snowflakes triggered our own shadows.
The most terrifying aspect of this mass hysteria is the willingness for people to give up their freedoms and security to politicians that will take the opportunity to keep their controls.

We are at a very different point now economically speaking than we were in 2009. In 2009 we had just witnessed the stock market loose over half its value from the financial crisis During the Great Recession. Contrarily, we have Just seen the stock market soar for over 10 years, we have seen billions of dollars created with out corresponding growth, we have had debt and credit soar. The covid19 is merely a pin that is popping a bubbly in the stock market and the economy.

 

[JoeB131]

"illegal president"

As opposed to Kenyan, who was legal.

There you go... TDS at its best. Barry did nothing wrong, and orange man bad. REEEEEE

Obama won a clear majority. A majority said no to Trump.

Um, yeah, Trump is illegal. Now we are paying for it.

Oh, by the way, thanks for using the racist "Kenyan" to describe Obama... you guys always out yourselves and it's wonderful.

 

[JoeB131]

DO PLEASE entertain us Joe with your bullshit fantasies about how Bush controlled or had responsibly in how investment bankers on Wall Street handled their business or how it was Bush and not the actual Congress with the power to enact laws which enacted sweeping changes allowing unsecured loans to low income people that set into motion the banking collapse.

Bush was in charge of the SEC, FEC, FDLIC, etc. All the agencies that were supposed to be making sure that the Banksters didn't do exactly what they did.

 

[tigerred59]

There's a reason we remember, Katrina, 911, the great depression, the crash of 06, the enfluenza epidemic of 1918 and this....A USELESS DISGUSTING WORTHLESS REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT WAS IN OFFICE!!! Shit that didn't cause a panic and was calmly dealt with....A BRAIN WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, A DEMOCRAT!!!!!!

 

[Ame®icano]

"illegal president"

As opposed to Kenyan, who was legal.

There you go... TDS at its best. Barry did nothing wrong, and orange man bad. REEEEEE

Obama won a clear majority. A majority said no to Trump.

Um, yeah, Trump is illegal. Now we are paying for it.

Oh, by the way, thanks for using the racist "Kenyan" to describe Obama... you guys always out yourselves and it's wonderful.

Kenyan is not a race, moron.

 

[WEATHER53]

What were the stats on H1N1 one month after it was pronounced?

Couldn't find data for one month, but here are some dates for comparison.

April 15, 2009 - First case in California
April 26, 2009 - Public Health Emergency declared
April 28, 2009 - FDA approved new CDC test
May 1, 2009 - shipments of new CDC test to detect H1N1 began
June 25, 2009 - 1 million cases
August 20, 2009 - second wave begun
September 15, 2009 - The FDA approved four H1N1 vaccines.
October 1, 2009 - first vaccines given in US
November 12, 2009 - CDC released numbers for first 6 months (April - October)

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22 million infected at 6 months and 1 million at 10 weeks. That’s our benchmark and thank you

 

[JoeB131]

There's a reason we remember, Katrina, 911, the great depression, the crash of 06, the enfluenza epidemic of 1918 and this....A USELESS DISGUSTING WORTHLESS REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT WAS IN OFFICE!!! Shit that didn't cause a panic and was calmly dealt with....A BRAIN WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, A DEMOCRAT!!!!!!

Um, A Democrat was in office when the 1918 Influenza Epidemic hit. Woodrow Wilson. It was probably made much worse by the fact there was Wartime Censorship from WWI. We call it the Spanish Flu because Spain was neutral and the only country honestly reporting on it.

Also, the Crash was in 08, not 06.

 

[JoeB131]

Kenyan is not a race, moron.

Then why aren't you calling Trump "The German"?

 

[Ame®icano]

Kenyan is not a race, moron.

Then why aren't you calling Trump "The German"?

Why would I call him "German"? His father was born in US, and mom in Scotland, both American citizens.

 

[tigerred59]

There's a reason we remember, Katrina, 911, the great depression, the crash of 06, the enfluenza epidemic of 1918 and this....A USELESS DISGUSTING WORTHLESS REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT WAS IN OFFICE!!! Shit that didn't cause a panic and was calmly dealt with....A BRAIN WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, A DEMOCRAT!!!!!!

Um, A Democrat was in office when the 1918 Influenza Epidemic hit. Woodrow Wilson. It was probably made much worse by the fact there was Wartime Censorship from WWI. We call it the Spanish Flu because Spain was neutral and the only country honestly reporting on it.

Also, the Crash was in 08, not 06.

Learn something new every day....and 2 wrong out of thousands, isn't bad.

 

[JoeB131]

Why would I call him "German"? His father was born in US, and mom in Scotland, both American citizens.

Why would you call Obama the "Kenyan"? (I mean other than your rabid racism. His mother was born in the US, and she was a US citizen.

 

[Ame®icano]

Why would I call him "German"? His father was born in US, and mom in Scotland, both American citizens.

Why would you call Obama the "Kenyan"? (I mean other than your rabid racism. His mother was born in the US, and she was a US citizen.

Funny you didn't mentioned his father. No wonder why...