Zone1 Reigning in Porn... it is well past time. Documentary "Beyond Fantasy" highlights the changes in pornography over the past 10 years

It is as they say, the oldest profession.

And it is really any worse than the mistress of some rich dude that gets showered with gifts and an apartment for fucking the rich dude?
Yes, young girls being bought from parents or lured by human traffickers and held in debt bondage to be forced to service ten to twenty men per day is really much worse than a gold-digger getting gifts and support in exchange for voluntarily having sex with an old dude.

So is girls falling into the easy money of stripping, becoming addicted to drugs and turning to turning tricks when they become so ravaged by them that no one will pay for a lap dance.

Much better than men have sex robots or even the already available sex dolls to satisfy, or at least relieve themselves with.

You can be libertarian about prostitution while realizing how harmful it is to most of the women involved. That's what libertarianism is really about, not wanting to ban things just because you disagree with them. Not wanting to ban things because you think they are good takes no knowledge of the NAP at all.
 
If this is happening, the problem is far deeper than porn.
It can create problems where none existed before. I know two people whose marriages dissolved after they got into some role playing games on the internet--I haven't seen it myself but apparently these can involve some pretty pornographic/erotic/role playing--and became ensnared in on line relationships that eventually moved into actual encounters. They both confided that no, they were not disappointed or unhappy in their marriages, but fell head over heels in love with those on line guys who seemed so much more exciting and, well, proficient? in sexual talents.

Those encounters resulted in husbands unwilling to be at all understanding and the marriages ended quite badly while those on line encounters also didn't last long. These were not unintelligent or trashy women by anybody's standards but they got caught up in imagery that they emotionally were drawn into believing was real.

And the air brushed, photo enhanced porn I would imagine would look so much better to some guys than the real thing that a real relationship would be emotionally abandoned in favor of that.

It isn't healthy for anybody. Not good for anybody.
 
Netflix made the documentary "Hot Girls Wanted" in 2015 that shed a critical eye on the porn industry going after girls literally the day after they graduate High School, and using all kinds of tricks and shaky means to draw them in.

"Beyond Fantasy" - takes this further, And shows how the industry, especially the past several years is pushing the envelope into what is legal and what is not. Purposefully recruiting 18 year olds that look 12. And then dressing them up and using those girls in incest related scenes. and other scenes where it is obvious they are purposefully portraying acts of adults having sex with not just underage girls... but well underage.

It is getting worse and worse, and for reasons unfathomable to me - why the main stream media is not talking about just how bad modern porn is getting.
And what is the price of doing this?
Is it encouraging would be pedophiles to believe they are normal? That they aren't really wrong.... just honest?
Is it behind the current "progressive" message that pedophiles are not evil... and they should be called "minor attracted persons"?

It is way-way past time the legal system stops the madness that has taken over the industry. And any other industry that portrays children as sexual objects.

You know what I do about porn? I don't watch it! EASY PEASY
 
It can create problems where none existed before. I know two people whose marriages dissolved after they got into some role playing games on the internet--I haven't seen it myself but apparently these can involve some pretty pornographic/erotic/role playing--and became ensnared in on line relationships that eventually moved into actual encounters. They both confided that no, they were not disappointed or unhappy in their marriages, but fell head over heels in love with those on line guys who seemed so much more exciting and, well, proficient? in sexual talents.
Yes, that can be a problem. Bringing other people into the relationship, whether it be a boss a coworker or a secretary, is never good for a marriage. P*** is just another way of bringing other people in too the marriage. Bad if it's done on the down low, maybe even worse if you do it together. People cannot live up to expectations raised by professional performers and professional producers.

But I agree with at Golfing Gator in that most of the time bringing p*** or other people in any way into the marriage indicates something was already wrong. Hard to imagine a happily married couple saying hey I've got an idea let's make our great marriage even better bye wife swapping with the people next door.

Any kind of open marriage as a cure for a bad marriage is much more likely to make the problem worse than better. But again I'm libertarian I would never want to ban any of that stuff because I don't believe it is worthwhile.
Those encounters resulted in husbands unwilling to be at all understanding and the marriages ended quite badly while those on line encounters also didn't last long. These were not unintelligent or trashy women by anybody's standards but they got caught up in imagery that they emotionally were drawn into believing was real.

And the air brushed, photo enhanced porn I would imagine would look so much better to some guys than the real thing that a real relationship would be emotionally abandoned in favor of that.

It isn't healthy for anybody. Not good for anybody.
In the past I think the airbrushed paper dolls of Playboy Etc did raise unrealistic expectations, particularly in teenage boys. Today I think it is a little different.

As a behavior specialist on a junior high, I am constantly being asked to deal with boys who download p*** on their school learning devices. The girls are no longer airbrushed. The unrealistic expectation is caused by the fact that these girls are so willing to be used and humiliated. Like that's the p*** now. Not just nudity or even people have sex, it's girls allowing themselves to be insulted, slapped spat on, and other things not particularly indicative of a loving romantic relationship.

Btw, I have no idea why speech to text is redacting the word porn.
 
they could never replace sex in a good marriage, which is about so much more than just the physical part

My smokin' hot Puerto Rican girlfriend and I enjoy a variety of bedroom activities rather regularly. Some of those activities, though, can include just spending the entire day in bed, watching movies, or maybe football on the weekends, snuggling under the comforter. Hell, I'm not a bad lookin' guy, living in a tourist town, and have money. Getting laid isn't an issue.

Having my "better half", though, is where it's at for me...
 
Yes, that can be a problem. Bringing other people into the relationship, whether it be a boss a coworker or a secretary, is never good for a marriage. P*** is just another way of bringing other people in too the marriage. Bad if it's done on the down low, maybe even worse if you do it together. People cannot live up to expectations raised by professional performers and professional producers.

But I agree with at Golfing Gator in that most of the time bringing p*** or other people in any way into the marriage indicates something was already wrong. Hard to imagine a happily married couple saying hey I've got an idea let's make our great marriage even better bye wife swapping with the people next door.

Any kind of open marriage as a cure for a bad marriage is much more likely to make the problem worse than better. But again I'm libertarian I would never want to ban any of that stuff because I don't believe it is worthwhile.

In the past I think the airbrushed paper dolls of Playboy Etc did raise unrealistic expectations, particularly in teenage boys. Today I think it is a little different.

As a behavior specialist on a junior high, I am constantly being asked to deal with boys who download p*** on their school learning devices. The girls are no longer airbrushed. The unrealistic expectation is caused by the fact that these girls are so willing to be used and humiliated. Like that's the p*** now. Not just nudity or even people have sex, it's girls allowing themselves to be insulted, slapped spat on, and other things not particularly indicative of a loving romantic relationship.

Btw, I have no idea why speech to text is redacting the word porn.

I was going to say that I thought it was funny that you won't even type the word "porn"...
 
Yes, that can be a problem. Bringing other people into the relationship, whether it be a boss a coworker or a secretary, is never good for a marriage. P*** is just another way of bringing other people in too the marriage. Bad if it's done on the down low, maybe even worse if you do it together. People cannot live up to expectations raised by professional performers and professional producers.

But I agree with at Golfing Gator in that most of the time bringing p*** or other people in any way into the marriage indicates something was already wrong. Hard to imagine a happily married couple saying hey I've got an idea let's make our great marriage even better bye wife swapping with the people next door.

Any kind of open marriage as a cure for a bad marriage is much more likely to make the problem worse than better. But again I'm libertarian I would never want to ban any of that stuff because I don't believe it is worthwhile.



In the past I think the airbrushed paper dolls of Playboy Etc did raise unrealistic expectations, particularly in teenage boys. Today I think it is a little different.

As a behavior specialist on a junior high, I am constantly being asked to deal with boys who download p*** on their school learning devices. The girls are no longer airbrushed. The unrealistic expectation is caused by the fact that these girls are so willing to be used and humiliated. Like that's the p*** now. Not just nudity or even people have sex, it's girls allowing themselves to be insulted, slapped spat on, and other things not particularly indicative of a loving romantic relationship.

Btw, I have no idea why speech to text is redacting the word porn.
Yes. The leftists so-called 'liberation' of women has certainly not decreased the incidence of violence against women or caused men to respect them or women to respect themselves any more. I'll take your word for the transition of the airbrush to whatever is pushed at porn these days, but when I see everyday women dressed like they're working the streets, I wonder how they can think so little of themselves or care? I can believe that those in the porn mags and/or videos are willing to be disrespected, mere objects instead of human beings, exploited, reduced in value.

And maybe that's why there are so few truly successful lasting relationships these days? And maybe that's why children not blessed with living with a responsible loving mom and dad in the home is at the highest percentage in human history?

(And I long ago gave up trying to analyze the mysteries of autocorrect and built in censors.)
 
My smokin' hot Puerto Rican girlfriend and I enjoy a variety of bedroom activities rather regularly. Some of those activities, though, can include just spending the entire day in bed, watching movies, or maybe football on the weekends, snuggling under the comforter. Hell, I'm not a bad lookin' guy, living in a tourist town, and have money. Getting laid isn't an issue.

Having my "better half", though, is where it's at for me...
nothing hotter than pueto rican hotties....love machines is what they are
 
Yes. The leftists so-called 'liberation' of women has certainly not decreased the incidence of violence against women or caused men to respect them or women to respect themselves any more. I'll take your word for the transition of the airbrush to whatever is pushed at porn these days, but when I see everyday women dressed like they're working the streets, I wonder how they can think so little of themselves or care? I can believe that those in the porn mags and/or videos are willing to be disrespected, mere objects instead of human beings, exploited, reduced in value.

And maybe that's why there are so few truly successful lasting relationships these days? And maybe that's why children not blessed with living with a responsible loving mom and dad in the home is at the highest percentage in human history?

(And I long ago gave up trying to analyze the mysteries of autocorrect and built in censors.)
To me it shows the corruption of everything.
Ask yourself, of all the me-too'isms and "toxic masculinity" splashed everywhere - why have all of these outraged white liberals never addressed modern pornography?
 
but when I see everyday women dressed like they're working the streets, I wonder how they can think so little of themselves or care?

you sound like my grand mother back in the day when she could see a girls ankles beneath her skirt/dress.
 
why have all of these outraged white liberals never addressed modern pornography?

Perhaps they do not think it is their business if you wish to watch porn.

Why have all those outraged white religious conservatives never addressed modern pornography?
 

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