Regime Change Iran?

[The Duke]

A step further in explanation: Democrats are in such dire need for the black vote, and power is more important to them than the country, that they advanced a crypto-Muslim who yeans for a nuclear powered fundamentalist Islamofascist nation that can destroy the West.

Democrats installed the Ayatollah, nurtured the insane 7th century barbarians and paid them to spread terrorism.

Hrmm..that's a little fast and loose there.

 

[Ringo]

 

[PoliticalChic]

Actually no, he was just weak and Iranians were tired of the Shah's shit.
Regime change never works. Pretty sure the 1st was Iran,
so how is that working out?
Hillary with Khadaffi, fail.

Actually, yes.

He arranged for the Ayatollah to take charge.

Obama arranged regime change in Egypt.

 

[The Duke]

Actually, yes.

He arranged for the Ayatollah to take charge.

Obama arranged regime change in Egypt.

Ay yi yi. Obama tried and failed to arrange regime change in Egypt.
Or maybe he succeeded and it didn't work...again.
"The crisis reached a breaking point on June 30, 2013 as millions of Egyptians poured into the streets to demand Morsi’s removal. It climaxed on July 3, when the defence minister, Abdul Fattah al-Sisi, a Morsi appointee, removed Morsi from office and imprisoned him and thousands of his followers in a purge that defanged the Muslim Brotherhood."

The Blogs: The Rise and Fall of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt

From the blog of Sheldon Kirshner at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

Idk about Carter, have not researched that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hrmm..that's a little fast and loose there.

What part?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ay yi yi. Obama tried and failed to arrange regime change in Egypt.

AI

• Encouraging a transition: President Obama urged Mubarak to listen to the Egyptian people and initiate a transition, suggesting he needed to consider his legacy and how to navigate this period. While not a direct demand for resignation, it was interpreted as a significant shift in US stance.

Exactly what he didn't do in Iran.

 

[The Duke]

What part?

"arranged for the Ayatollah to take charge".

 

[MagicMike]

7. Lying to shield Islam is pro forma….and he did so, constantly.

What is the reason behind these lies that Obama released on an unsuspecting public:


Obama “told you that radical Islamist terrorism does not stem from ideology.” Pompeo, at site of Obama's address to Muslim world, rebukes his legacy: 'Age of self-inflicted American shame is over'


“Obama: ‘We’ are to blame, not Islamic terrorism, for massacre” Obama: ‘We’ are to blame, not Islamic terrorism, for massacre


“Isis is not about Islam, says Obama”
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“Obama on ISIS: ‘They’re not an existential threat to us’”
Obama on ISIS: 'They're not an existential threat to us'



Remember this, by Obama, in service to his faith:
Obama Saying 'Islam has been Woven into the Fabric of our Country Since its Founding'





Not hardly.



They were enemies of the United States from before the Barbary War.

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they inquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.

He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.

"American Peace Commissioners to John Jay," March 28, 1786, "Thomas Jefferson Papers," Series 1. General Correspondence. 1651–1827, Library of Congress. LoC: March 28, 1786




But a Muslim is allowed to lie if it benefits the faith.

Even if he is the President of the United States.








If Obama weren't exactly what I have revealed him to be.....why would he posit those lies??????

Obama who?

 

[PoliticalChic]

"arranged for the Ayatollah to take charge".

1. Khomeini and his allies in Iran actually reached out to the Americans, to whom he promised a) to hold the country together, calming the unrest, b) to keep the communists out, and c) to keep the oil flowing. That’s all Carter had to hear! Carter then intercedes with the Iranian military on behalf of Khomeini and in opposition to Bakhtiar, and that the US would not support any coup in favor of the Shah. In 1991, Bakhtiar was assassinated.


a. Carter believed that Khomeini would support democracy, contrary to all that he had written while in exile. In over 110 interviews he gave in Paris in the three months prior to re-entering Iran, he never mentioned the rule of the ‘juriscouncil,’ the clerical guardianship, i.e., the regime in control currently. He promised that he would retire to a life of study, and “…leave all powers to the people.”


b. The first constitution that was written was democratic! Khomeini flew to Iran in February, ’79. Within weeks he began to marginalize democracy forces. Soon a new constitution was written with the rule of the guardians at its center. November 4, of ’79 was the attack on the US embassy and taking of the hostages for 444 days.

Dr. Abbas Milani is he Director of the Iranian Studies Program at Stanford University. His recent book is “The Shah,” is based on ten years studying the archives of the United States and of Britain. The following is from his recent lecture on that subject.

<em>The Shah</em>




Carter viewed Khomeini as a religious holy man in a grass-roots revolution rather than the founding father of modern terrorism. U.N. Ambassador Andrew Young said, “Khomeini will eventually be hailed as a saint.” Iran Ambassador William Sullivan, said, “Khomeini is a Gandhi-like figure.” Adviser James Bill proclaimed in a Newsweek interview in 1979 that Khomeini was not a mad mujahid, but a man of “impeccable integrity and honesty.”

. .....in one more stunning example of naïveté and poor judgement, Democrat Jimmy Carter installed the blood thirsty Khomeini in place of the Shah.

"When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire."
Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 108

 

[The Duke]

1. Khomeini and his allies in Iran actually reached out to the Americans, to whom he promised a) to hold the country together, calming the unrest, b) to keep the communists out, and c) to keep the oil flowing. That’s all Carter had to hear! Carter then intercedes with the Iranian military on behalf of Khomeini and in opposition to Bakhtiar, and that the US would not support any coup in favor of the Shah. In 1991, Bakhtiar was assassinated.


a. Carter believed that Khomeini would support democracy, contrary to all that he had written while in exile. In over 110 interviews he gave in Paris in the three months prior to re-entering Iran, he never mentioned the rule of the ‘juriscouncil,’ the clerical guardianship, i.e., the regime in control currently. He promised that he would retire to a life of study, and “…leave all powers to the people.”


b. The first constitution that was written was democratic! Khomeini flew to Iran in February, ’79. Within weeks he began to marginalize democracy forces. Soon a new constitution was written with the rule of the guardians at its center. November 4, of ’79 was the attack on the US embassy and taking of the hostages for 444 days.

Dr. Abbas Milani is he Director of the Iranian Studies Program at Stanford University. His recent book is “The Shah,” is based on ten years studying the archives of the United States and of Britain. The following is from his recent lecture on that subject.

<em>The Shah</em>




Carter viewed Khomeini as a religious holy man in a grass-roots revolution rather than the founding father of modern terrorism. U.N. Ambassador Andrew Young said, “Khomeini will eventually be hailed as a saint.” Iran Ambassador William Sullivan, said, “Khomeini is a Gandhi-like figure.” Adviser James Bill proclaimed in a Newsweek interview in 1979 that Khomeini was not a mad mujahid, but a man of “impeccable integrity and honesty.”

. .....in one more stunning example of naïveté and poor judgement, Democrat Jimmy Carter installed the blood thirsty Khomeini in place of the Shah.

"When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire."
Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 108

How did the Iranian revolution come to power with Carter's help?

 

[PoliticalChic]

How did the Iranian revolution come to power with Carter's help?

"After Carter’s election, Ebrahim Yazdi, one of the Ayatollah Khomeini’s supporters urged him to “begin to think of the ‘new possibilities’ that the expected rift between Tehran and Washington might offer.” Yazdi, an Iranian-born American citizen, wrote to him in Iraq that “the shah’s friends in Washington are out. … It is time to act.” Circumstances dictated that “having picked Khomeini to overthrow the shah, Carter and the French had to get him out of Iraq, clothe him with respectability, and set him up in Paris,” wrote Amir Taheri in “Nest of Spies.”

CIA memoranda regarding Khomeini seem to have either been deliberately ignored by the Carter administration or lost in the great governmental paperwork shuffle. One memo flatly stated, “Khomeini is determined to overthrow the shah and is unlikely to accept compromise. … He has cooperated in the past with Islamic terrorist groups.”

Carter viewed Khomeini as a religious holy man in a grass-roots revolution rather than the founding father of modern terrorism. U.N. Ambassador Andrew Young said, “Khomeini will eventually be hailed as a saint.” Iran Ambassador William Sullivan, said, “Khomeini is a Gandhi-like figure.” Adviser James Bill proclaimed in a Newsweek interview in 1979 that Khomeini was not a mad mujahid, but a man of “impeccable integrity and honesty.”

Lubrani later told me Carter was to blame, to some extent, for the current state of affairs in Iran.


Liberal Democrat Jimmy Carter apparently believes evil really does not exist. Terrorist organizations are simply human rights movements; people are basically good; and America should embrace the perpetrators while castigating the victims.


Jimmy Carter is among the number clamoring to change the worldview of terrorists from mass murderers of the innocent to “insurgents” or “liberation movements.” He is quick to indict the U.S. at every opportunity and to champion the downtrodden suicide bombers as “martyrs.”"
Welcome back Carter? * WorldNetDaily * by Michael Evans

Welcome back Carter? * WorldNetDaily * by Michael Evans

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1. On January 21, 1979, the former Attorney General, Ramsey Clark, arrived in Paris from Tehran. He held some talks with the opposition leader Khomeini and told him Carter's opinions of the recent events. As the news agencies reported, when Clark left Khomeini, he said, "I have a great hope that this revolution will bring social justice to Iranian people."

Al-Hawadess, No. 1161, London, Feb. 3, 1979, p. 26.



2. The Ayatollah came to power as part of US President Jimmy Carter's "Human Rights" policy. William Miller, chief of staff on the US Senate Intelligence Committee, said America had nothing to fear from Khomeini since he would be a progressive force for human rights. U.S. Ambassador William Sullivan compared Khomeini to Mahatma Gandhi.”

Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini - Conservapedia


"On 27 January, 1979, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini - founder of Iran's Islamic Republic, the man who called the United States "the Great Satan" - sent a secret message to Washington.



From his home in exile outside Paris, the defiant leader of the Iranian revolution effectively offered the Carter administration a deal: Iranian military leaders listen to you, he said, but the Iranian people follow my orders.



If President Jimmy Carter could use his influence on the military to clear the way for his takeover, Khomeini suggested, he would calm the nation. Stability could be restored, America's interests and citizens in Iran would be protected.





Persuaded by Carter, Iran's autocratic ruler, Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, known as the Shah, had finally departed on a "vacation" abroad, leaving behind an unpopular prime minister and a military in disarray -





Khomeini's message is part of a trove of newly declassified US government documents - diplomatic cables, policy memos, meeting records - that tell the largely unknown story of America's secret engagement with Khomeini, an enigmatic cleric who would soon inspire Islamic fundamentalism and anti-Americanism worldwide.



This story is a detailed account of how Khomeini brokered his return to Iran using a tone of deference and amenability towards the US that has never before been revealed."

Two Weeks in January: America's secret engagement with Khomeini

 

[The Duke]

"After Carter’s election, Ebrahim Yazdi, one of the Ayatollah Khomeini’s supporters urged him to “begin to think of the ‘new possibilities’ that the expected rift between Tehran and Washington might offer.” Yazdi, an Iranian-born American citizen, wrote to him in Iraq that “the shah’s friends in Washington are out. … It is time to act.” Circumstances dictated that “having picked Khomeini to overthrow the shah, Carter and the French had to get him out of Iraq, clothe him with respectability, and set him up in Paris,” wrote Amir Taheri in “Nest of Spies.”

CIA memoranda regarding Khomeini seem to have either been deliberately ignored by the Carter administration or lost in the great governmental paperwork shuffle. One memo flatly stated, “Khomeini is determined to overthrow the shah and is unlikely to accept compromise. … He has cooperated in the past with Islamic terrorist groups.”

Carter viewed Khomeini as a religious holy man in a grass-roots revolution rather than the foundinghttps://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-muslim-brotherhood-in-egypt/ father of modern terrorism. U.N. Ambassador Andrew Young said, “Khomeini will eventually be hailed as a saint.” Iran Ambassador William Sullivan, said, “Khomeini is a Gandhi-like figure.” Adviser James Bill proclaimed in a Newsweek interview in 1979 that Khomeini was not a mad mujahid, but a man of “impeccable integrity and honesty.”

Lubrani later told me Carter was to blame, to some extent, for thhttps://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-muslim-brotherhood-in-egypt/e current state of affairs in Iran.


Liberal Democrat Jimmy Carter apparently believes evil really does not exist. Terrorist organizations are simply human rights movements; people are basically good; and America should embrace the perpetrators while castigating the victims.


Jimmy Carter is among the number clamoring to change the worldview of terrorists from mass murderers of the innocent to “insurgents” or “liberation movements.” He is quick to indict the U.S. at every opportunity and to champion the downtrodden suicide bombers as “martyrs.”"
Welcome back Carter? * WorldNetDaily * by Michael Evans

Welcome back Carter? * WorldNetDaily * by Michael Evans

... Read more

www.wnd.com

1. On January 21, 1979, the former Attorney General, Ramsey Clark, arrived in Paris from Tehran. He held some talks with the opposition leader Khomeini and told him Carter's opinions of the recent events. As the news agencies reported, when Clark left Khomeini, he said, "I have a great hope that this revolution will bring social justice to Iranian people."

Al-Hawadess, No. 1161, London, Feb. 3, 1979, p. 26.



2. The Ayatollah came to power as part of US President Jimmy Carter's "Human Rights" policy. William Miller, chief of staff on the US Senate Intelligence Committee, said America had nothing to fear from Khomeini since he would be a progressive force for human rights. U.S. Ambassador William Sullivan compared Khomeini to Mahatma Gandhi.”

Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini - Conservapedia


"On 27 January, 1979, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini - founder of Iran's Islamic Republic, the man who called the United States "the Great Satan" - sent a secret message to Washington.



From his home in exile outside Paris, the defiant leader of the Iranian revolution effectively offered the Carter administration a deal: Iranian military leaders listen to you, he said, but the Iranian people follow my orders.



If President Jimmy Carter could use his influence on the military to clear the way for his takeover, Khomeini suggested, he would calm the nation. Stability could be restored, America's interests and citizens in Iran would be protected.





Persuaded by Carter, Iran's autocratic ruler, Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, known as the Shah, had finally departed on a "vacation" abroad, leaving behind an unpopular prime minister and a military in disarray -





Khomeini's message is part of a trove of newly declassified US government documents - diplomatic cables, policy memos, meeting records - that tell the largely unknown story of America's secret engagement with Khomeini, an enigmatic cleric who would soon inspire Islamic fundamentalism and anti-Americanism worldwide.



This story is a detailed account of how Khomeini brokered his return to Iran using a tone of deference and amenability towards the US that has never before been revealed."

Two Weeks in January: America's secret engagement with Khomeini

Thank you! I can tell you've read about this, and I haven't.
Fairly well versed in Palestine/UNRWA connections and what led to the
Afghanistan withdrawal fail, though.

 

[MagicMike]

Obama was made well-aware of how valuable a Muslim in power in the Democrat Party would be to the faith. And he had several valuable assets, Biden called Obama first "clean" African-American candidate ... who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," and he is.

Just keep the Muslim thing on the down-low.


5. Jump to 2009….Obama as President…time to re-pay for all the help: President Barack Obama delivers a speech at American University in Cairo, Egypt, that “promised a new beginning with Muslim and Arab countries.”

“Obama gave front-row seats to Muslim Brotherhood in 2009 Cairo Speech” Obama gave front-row seats to Muslim Brotherhood in 2009 Cairo Speech



6. Know anything about this group favored by Hussein Obama?

The Nazis were largely responsible for the creation of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, the first modern mass movement of political Islam (1928): they hoped to use the Brotherhood against the British in the Middle East.
Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 60,
and John Loftus, ‘The Muslim Brotherhood,
The Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and al-Qaeda


Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, was a devout admirer of Adolf Hitler.http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28588


"The Muslim Brotherhood is a group that worries us not because it deals with philosophical or ideological ideas but because it defends the use of violence against civilians". Poole, Patrick, (26 March 2007). "Mainstreaming the Muslim Brotherhood". FrontPage Magazine. p. 39.

"Obama White House Declares Muslim Brotherhood Is Not a Terrorist OrganizationLatest Blog Posts | CBN.com
"The Muslim Brotherhood called for “a long, uncompromising jihad” in Egypt just days after a delegation of the Islamist group’s key leaders and allies met with the State Department, according to an official statement released this week.

Just days after a delegation that included two top Brotherhood leaders was hosted at the State Department, the organization released an official statement calling on its supporters to “prepare” for jihad, according to an independent translation of the statement first posted on Tuesday."
Open Jihad Declared in Egypt Following State Dept. Meeting with Muslim Brotherhood-Aligned Leaders


Not the only terrorist organization Obama would seek to aid….as we’ll see later.

You are desperately trying to deflect and distract from Trump's dismal failure in reigning in Bibi, and also another one of Trump's clearly broken promises to you MAGAt cultist simps about not being a war President.
He and Bibi just started a war with Iran and (by proxy) Russia that very well could when all is said and done, turn into WW III.
I don't blame you for feeling like such a chump you'd feel a need to blame it all on Obama.
It's hard to have to finally admit that you've been a gullible idiot for a con man.

 

[The Duke]

I think Trump needs to sit down with the Ayatollah.

 

[The Duke]

NO REGIME CHANGE! IT'S FAIL EVERY TIME!

 

[Mac-7]

I think Trump needs to sit down with the Ayatollah.

We have the Irans on the ropes

Dont talk,

Instead bomb, bomb, bomb

Let Israel take out all the Iran leadership including the Ayatollah

And they can do it

 

[Ropey]

 

[Ropey]

 

[PoliticalChic]

You are desperately trying to deflect and distract from Trump's dismal failure in reigning in Bibi, and also another one of Trump's clearly broken promises to you MAGAt cultist simps about not being a war President.
He and Bibi just started a war with Iran and (by proxy) Russia that very well could when all is said and done, turn into WW III.
I don't blame you for feeling like such a chump you'd feel a need to blame it all on Obama.
It's hard to have to finally admit that you've been a gullible idiot for a con man.

I never lie, and I am rarely wrong.

And I enjoy taking you to the woodshed, as I believe stupidity should be painful.


Obama, crypto-Muslim, taitor, and you, fool who swallows each and every lie the Democrats tell.


8. As President, Obama actually worked to establish the Muslim Brotherhood in control of Egypt, known as the ‘army of the Arabs.’
When the people of Egypt refused the fundamentalism that Obama represented, he actually cut off aid to Egypt.


When the Egyptian people declined to be governed by the 7th century savages, the Muslim Brotherhood, Obama had a fit:

"The U.S. government has decided privately to act as if the military takeover of Egypt was a coup, temporarily suspending most forms of military aid, despite deciding not to announce publicly a coup determination one way or the other, according to a leading U.S. senator.
In the latest example of its poorly understood Egypt policy, the Obama administration has decided to temporarily suspend the disbursement of most direct military aid, the delivery of weapons to the Egyptian military, and some forms of economic aid to the Egyptian government while it conducts a broad review of the relationship."
Senator: Obama Administration Secretly Suspended Military Aid to Egypt - The Daily Beast


And, of course, the same for Iran.
"…Obama administration used the language of “moderate Islamists” to describe the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and he called Iran’s President Rouhani, a “moderate” reformist, despite the rise of human rights violations in Iran on Rouhani’s watch.

The Muslim Brotherhood, on the other hand was better known for sponsoring terrorist proxies and ideological movements that reflected its Islamist ideology. "
Why did the Obama administration support Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood?



Why would some Muslims not want President al-Sisi in place of the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood, who Obama favored?

“In the small village of al-Ur, in the south of Egypt, a cathedral dedicated to the 21 Copts beheaded in 2015 by the Islamic State in Libya was inaugurated in February.

Financed by the government, the new church is part of the strategy of President ‘Abd al Fattah al-Sisi, who will run for a second term in office in an election in March, to strengthen the alliance with the Coptic Church.

… the current President, ‘Abd al Fattah al-Sisi, who wanted to publicly renew the pact with a majestic ceremony. On January 6, 2018, on the occasion of the Coptic Christmas, the current Egyptian rais inaugurated with Patriarch Tawadros II the new cathedral that, according to the President’s intentions, should become the largest Christian church in the Middle East.” From Nasser to Sisi, the Difficult Balance of the Copts




Sisi......embracing Christians......no Islamist President could abide that!!!!!!!

 

[Ropey]

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