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Regarding the "Leaked" George Floyd Video
- Thread starter MarcATL
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It changes nothing, and here's why....
A few problems with this guy's assessments.
1.) “Mr. Zed (Floyd) doesn’t want to get in the car. He has a phobia.”
After they just pulled him from the confinement of his own SUV? I think not.
2.) “Mr. Zed ends up laying on the ground.”
After Floyd told them he wanted to lay on the ground.
3.) “He wasn’t complying. I don’t know that I would call that resisting.”
If you’re not complying, you’re resisting.
4.) “Resisting is a charge. …a charge that gets resolved by a jury or a judge. We do not have judges and juries in the street."
This implies that officers deliberately killed him for resisting. He wasn't killed for resisting. No one involved expected Floyd to die nor did they want him to die.
They why did they keep their weight on his body for 4 minutes AFTER the officers confirmed that he didn't have a pulse and he had stopped breathing?
Ghost of a Rider
Gold Member
It changes nothing, and here's why....
A few problems with this guy's assessments.
1.) “Mr. Zed (Floyd) doesn’t want to get in the car. He has a phobia.”
After they just pulled him from the confinement of his own SUV? I think not.
2.) “Mr. Zed ends up laying on the ground.”
After Floyd told them he wanted to lay on the ground.
3.) “He wasn’t complying. I don’t know that I would call that resisting.”
If you’re not complying, you’re resisting.
4.) “Resisting is a charge. …a charge that gets resolved by a jury or a judge. We do not have judges and juries in the street."
This implies that officers deliberately killed him for resisting. He wasn't killed for resisting. No one involved expected Floyd to die nor did they want him to die.
They why did they keep their weight on his body for 4 minutes AFTER the officers confirmed that he didn't have a pulse and he had stopped breathing?
Why don't you ask them instead of assuming they were trying to kill him?
Do you really believe Chauvin was consciously trying to kill him? Or are you just shouting from the merry cops-are-evil-witch-hunt bandwagon because you don't want to get thrown off?
Did Chauvin use excessive force? Maybe. Was he indifferent or dismissive of the possibility that Floyd had stopped breathing? Probably. Did he employ an illegal restraining procedure? Sounds like it. But was he actively, consciously, with malice aforethought trying to kill Floyd? I doubt that very much. It doesn't make any sense.
It changes nothing, and here's why....
Because Floyd died of a drug overdose. Which reminds me, have you been drug tested prior to posting at USMB?
if you take a test where you're taking cocaine or not, what do you think huh? Are you a junkie?"
Why would Joe think a black man is a junkie?
/----/ Because democRATS think all Blacks are junkies - but Dementia Joe is the first one to admit it in public.
It changes nothing, and here's why....
A few problems with this guy's assessments.
1.) “Mr. Zed (Floyd) doesn’t want to get in the car. He has a phobia.”
After they just pulled him from the confinement of his own SUV? I think not.
2.) “Mr. Zed ends up laying on the ground.”
After Floyd told them he wanted to lay on the ground.
3.) “He wasn’t complying. I don’t know that I would call that resisting.”
If you’re not complying, you’re resisting.
4.) “Resisting is a charge. …a charge that gets resolved by a jury or a judge. We do not have judges and juries in the street."
This implies that officers deliberately killed him for resisting. He wasn't killed for resisting. No one involved expected Floyd to die nor did they want him to die.
They why did they keep their weight on his body for 4 minutes AFTER the officers confirmed that he didn't have a pulse and he had stopped breathing?
Why don't you ask them instead of assuming they were trying to kill him?
Do you really believe Chauvin was consciously trying to kill him? Or are you just shouting from the merry cops-are-evil-witch-hunt bandwagon because you don't want to get thrown off?
Did Chauvin use excessive force? Maybe. Was he indifferent or dismissive of the possibility that Floyd had stopped breathing? Probably. Did he employ an illegal restraining procedure? Sounds like it. But was he actively, consciously, with malice aforethought trying to kill Floyd? I doubt that very much. It doesn't make any sense.
Chauvin was told George Floyd had no pulse and he did nothing. Chauvin was told George Floyd wasn't breathing and he did nothing. Chauvin was asked if they should turn George Floyd over when he stopped moving, and he did nothing. And he kept his knee on George Floyd's neck for 4 MORE minutes.
Yes, I believe that Chauvin thought he could kill George Floyd with impunity, and he was fully aware of what he was doing. 17 prior citations for excessive use of force had taught him that nothing bad could happen to him if he killed George Floyd.
Ghost of a Rider
Gold Member
It changes nothing, and here's why....
A few problems with this guy's assessments.
1.) “Mr. Zed (Floyd) doesn’t want to get in the car. He has a phobia.”
After they just pulled him from the confinement of his own SUV? I think not.
2.) “Mr. Zed ends up laying on the ground.”
After Floyd told them he wanted to lay on the ground.
3.) “He wasn’t complying. I don’t know that I would call that resisting.”
If you’re not complying, you’re resisting.
4.) “Resisting is a charge. …a charge that gets resolved by a jury or a judge. We do not have judges and juries in the street."
This implies that officers deliberately killed him for resisting. He wasn't killed for resisting. No one involved expected Floyd to die nor did they want him to die.
They why did they keep their weight on his body for 4 minutes AFTER the officers confirmed that he didn't have a pulse and he had stopped breathing?
Why don't you ask them instead of assuming they were trying to kill him?
Do you really believe Chauvin was consciously trying to kill him? Or are you just shouting from the merry cops-are-evil-witch-hunt bandwagon because you don't want to get thrown off?
Did Chauvin use excessive force? Maybe. Was he indifferent or dismissive of the possibility that Floyd had stopped breathing? Probably. Did he employ an illegal restraining procedure? Sounds like it. But was he actively, consciously, with malice aforethought trying to kill Floyd? I doubt that very much. It doesn't make any sense.
Chauvin was told George Floyd had no pulse and he did nothing. Chauvin was told George Floyd wasn't breathing and he did nothing. Chauvin was asked if they should turn George Floyd over when he stopped moving, and he did nothing. And he kept his knee on George Floyd's neck for 4 MORE minutes.
Yes, I believe that Chauvin thought he could kill George Floyd with impunity, and he was fully aware of what he was doing. 17 prior citations for excessive use of force had taught him that nothing bad could happen to him if he killed George Floyd.
Oh for Christ's sake. What was the motive then?
squeeze berry
Gold Member
the only injury was a broken rib sustained during CPR
squeeze berry
Gold Member
It changes nothing, and here's why....
A few problems with this guy's assessments.
1.) “Mr. Zed (Floyd) doesn’t want to get in the car. He has a phobia.”
After they just pulled him from the confinement of his own SUV? I think not.
2.) “Mr. Zed ends up laying on the ground.”
After Floyd told them he wanted to lay on the ground.
3.) “He wasn’t complying. I don’t know that I would call that resisting.”
If you’re not complying, you’re resisting.
4.) “Resisting is a charge. …a charge that gets resolved by a jury or a judge. We do not have judges and juries in the street."
This implies that officers deliberately killed him for resisting. He wasn't killed for resisting. No one involved expected Floyd to die nor did they want him to die.
They why did they keep their weight on his body for 4 minutes AFTER the officers confirmed that he didn't have a pulse and he had stopped breathing?
Why don't you ask them instead of assuming they were trying to kill him?
Do you really believe Chauvin was consciously trying to kill him? Or are you just shouting from the merry cops-are-evil-witch-hunt bandwagon because you don't want to get thrown off?
Did Chauvin use excessive force? Maybe. Was he indifferent or dismissive of the possibility that Floyd had stopped breathing? Probably. Did he employ an illegal restraining procedure? Sounds like it. But was he actively, consciously, with malice aforethought trying to kill Floyd? I doubt that very much. It doesn't make any sense.
Chauvin was told George Floyd had no pulse and he did nothing. Chauvin was told George Floyd wasn't breathing and he did nothing. Chauvin was asked if they should turn George Floyd over when he stopped moving, and he did nothing. And he kept his knee on George Floyd's neck for 4 MORE minutes.
Yes, I believe that Chauvin thought he could kill George Floyd with impunity, and he was fully aware of what he was doing. 17 prior citations for excessive use of force had taught him that nothing bad could happen to him if he killed George Floyd.
but all the looting, arson, and beatings and killings of innocent people are justified?
squeeze berry
Gold Member
did not fit the narrative. Remember the state attorney general is wife beater Keith Ellison the racist black muslimWhy didn't they release it right away?
It changes nothing, and here's why....
A few problems with this guy's assessments.
1.) “Mr. Zed (Floyd) doesn’t want to get in the car. He has a phobia.”
After they just pulled him from the confinement of his own SUV? I think not.
2.) “Mr. Zed ends up laying on the ground.”
After Floyd told them he wanted to lay on the ground.
3.) “He wasn’t complying. I don’t know that I would call that resisting.”
If you’re not complying, you’re resisting.
4.) “Resisting is a charge. …a charge that gets resolved by a jury or a judge. We do not have judges and juries in the street."
This implies that officers deliberately killed him for resisting. He wasn't killed for resisting. No one involved expected Floyd to die nor did they want him to die.
They why did they keep their weight on his body for 4 minutes AFTER the officers confirmed that he didn't have a pulse and he had stopped breathing?
Why don't you ask them instead of assuming they were trying to kill him?
Do you really believe Chauvin was consciously trying to kill him? Or are you just shouting from the merry cops-are-evil-witch-hunt bandwagon because you don't want to get thrown off?
Did Chauvin use excessive force? Maybe. Was he indifferent or dismissive of the possibility that Floyd had stopped breathing? Probably. Did he employ an illegal restraining procedure? Sounds like it. But was he actively, consciously, with malice aforethought trying to kill Floyd? I doubt that very much. It doesn't make any sense.
Chauvin was told George Floyd had no pulse and he did nothing. Chauvin was told George Floyd wasn't breathing and he did nothing. Chauvin was asked if they should turn George Floyd over when he stopped moving, and he did nothing. And he kept his knee on George Floyd's neck for 4 MORE minutes.
Yes, I believe that Chauvin thought he could kill George Floyd with impunity, and he was fully aware of what he was doing. 17 prior citations for excessive use of force had taught him that nothing bad could happen to him if he killed George Floyd.
Oh for Christ's sake. What was the motive then?
Chauvin worked with George Floyd. He knew him. Who knows what goes through the head of a man with 17 citations for violence against suspects? He shouldn't have been working as a cop. He should have been fired after the second citation.
squeeze berry
Gold Member
It changes nothing, and here's why....
A few problems with this guy's assessments.
1.) “Mr. Zed (Floyd) doesn’t want to get in the car. He has a phobia.”
After they just pulled him from the confinement of his own SUV? I think not.
2.) “Mr. Zed ends up laying on the ground.”
After Floyd told them he wanted to lay on the ground.
3.) “He wasn’t complying. I don’t know that I would call that resisting.”
If you’re not complying, you’re resisting.
4.) “Resisting is a charge. …a charge that gets resolved by a jury or a judge. We do not have judges and juries in the street."
This implies that officers deliberately killed him for resisting. He wasn't killed for resisting. No one involved expected Floyd to die nor did they want him to die.
They why did they keep their weight on his body for 4 minutes AFTER the officers confirmed that he didn't have a pulse and he had stopped breathing?
Why don't you ask them instead of assuming they were trying to kill him?
Do you really believe Chauvin was consciously trying to kill him? Or are you just shouting from the merry cops-are-evil-witch-hunt bandwagon because you don't want to get thrown off?
Did Chauvin use excessive force? Maybe. Was he indifferent or dismissive of the possibility that Floyd had stopped breathing? Probably. Did he employ an illegal restraining procedure? Sounds like it. But was he actively, consciously, with malice aforethought trying to kill Floyd? I doubt that very much. It doesn't make any sense.
Chauvin was told George Floyd had no pulse and he did nothing. Chauvin was told George Floyd wasn't breathing and he did nothing. Chauvin was asked if they should turn George Floyd over when he stopped moving, and he did nothing. And he kept his knee on George Floyd's neck for 4 MORE minutes.
Yes, I believe that Chauvin thought he could kill George Floyd with impunity, and he was fully aware of what he was doing. 17 prior citations for excessive use of force had taught him that nothing bad could happen to him if he killed George Floyd.
Oh for Christ's sake. What was the motive then?
Chauvin worked with George Floyd. He knew him. Who knows what goes through the head of a man with 17 citations for violence against suspects? He shouldn't have been working as a cop. He should have been fired after the second citation.
I don't know but I have to speculate that in a place like Minn. a cop gets a complaint almost every time he makes an arrest considering the demographic make up of the city
Ghost of a Rider
Gold Member
It changes nothing, and here's why....
A few problems with this guy's assessments.
1.) “Mr. Zed (Floyd) doesn’t want to get in the car. He has a phobia.”
After they just pulled him from the confinement of his own SUV? I think not.
2.) “Mr. Zed ends up laying on the ground.”
After Floyd told them he wanted to lay on the ground.
3.) “He wasn’t complying. I don’t know that I would call that resisting.”
If you’re not complying, you’re resisting.
4.) “Resisting is a charge. …a charge that gets resolved by a jury or a judge. We do not have judges and juries in the street."
This implies that officers deliberately killed him for resisting. He wasn't killed for resisting. No one involved expected Floyd to die nor did they want him to die.
They why did they keep their weight on his body for 4 minutes AFTER the officers confirmed that he didn't have a pulse and he had stopped breathing?
Why don't you ask them instead of assuming they were trying to kill him?
Do you really believe Chauvin was consciously trying to kill him? Or are you just shouting from the merry cops-are-evil-witch-hunt bandwagon because you don't want to get thrown off?
Did Chauvin use excessive force? Maybe. Was he indifferent or dismissive of the possibility that Floyd had stopped breathing? Probably. Did he employ an illegal restraining procedure? Sounds like it. But was he actively, consciously, with malice aforethought trying to kill Floyd? I doubt that very much. It doesn't make any sense.
Chauvin was told George Floyd had no pulse and he did nothing. Chauvin was told George Floyd wasn't breathing and he did nothing. Chauvin was asked if they should turn George Floyd over when he stopped moving, and he did nothing. And he kept his knee on George Floyd's neck for 4 MORE minutes.
Yes, I believe that Chauvin thought he could kill George Floyd with impunity, and he was fully aware of what he was doing. 17 prior citations for excessive use of force had taught him that nothing bad could happen to him if he killed George Floyd.
Oh for Christ's sake. What was the motive then?
Chauvin worked with George Floyd. He knew him. Who knows what goes through the head of a man with 17 citations for violence against suspects? He shouldn't have been working as a cop. He should have been fired after the second citation.
I know every person I work with. Doesn't mean I want to kill any of them.
Face it, you have a lot of assumptions, conjecture and wishful thinking. You have no real basis on which to assume Chauvin meant to kill Floyd, 17 violations or no.
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The video being referenced to in the OP depicts a gentleman scared to death after being confronted by a knock on his window with a nozzle to his face.No...but they are fallible human beings...just like us all....so I would recommend you not break the law and draw their attention...but if you do...don't resist...you will have your day in court...that's all...is that so unreasonable?.....if BLM thinks there is such a thing as perfect police officers...that will never get too mad or too scared they are kidding themselves....
It goes both ways punk.
Those thugs will face their fate before a jury.
I'm not worried.
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Post your findings.The autopsy didn't support Floyd dying of a drug overdose. This is, yet another, rightwing lie.
It does actually
You are very uninformed.
Billiejeens
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Post your findings.The autopsy didn't support Floyd dying of a drug overdose. This is, yet another, rightwing lie.
It does actually
You are very uninformed.
Jesus Boy, they weren't my findings.
It was THE findings.
Look outside your bubble for info.
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Here's what unravels all of your logiks....what human being expects another human being to survive almost 9 minutes of a grown man kneeling on your neck?!??A few problems with this guy's assessments.
1.) “Mr. Zed (Floyd) doesn’t want to get in the car. He has a phobia.”
After they just pulled him from the confinement of his own SUV? I think not.
2.) “Mr. Zed ends up laying on the ground.”
After Floyd told them he wanted to lay on the ground.
3.) “He wasn’t complying. I don’t know that I would call that resisting.”
If you’re not complying, you’re resisting.
4.) “Resisting is a charge. …a charge that gets resolved by a jury or a judge. We do not have judges and juries in the street."
This implies that officers deliberately killed him for resisting. He wasn't killed for resisting. No one involved expected Floyd to die nor did they want him to die.
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Please post a source you've used. Clearly my sources didn't. You're the one making a counter claim. Go ahead...finish it.Jesus Boy, they weren't my findings.
It was THE findings.
Look outside your bubble for info.
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What material facts changed?It changes everything. Floyd was 100% at fault and these cops should walk.
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So did the drugs kill him?He had a chance to explain it to a judge but he decided to resist instead....and now he's dead......and it wasn't murder....if you fight with cops you are placing yourself in a dangerous situation...its all on Floyd....its all his doing.....
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Who's "they?"Why didn't they release it right away?
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