Recruiting blues

[mrsx]

I would really like to hear more about how his last star had anything to do with troop strength numbers in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Would you kindly spell it out for me?

Simple, he agreed to carry out Rummy's plan when no one above him would.

 

[Mr. P]

Who's the guy in your AV mrsx,
Evo Morales?

 

[Fmr jarhead]

Simple, he agreed to carry out Rummy's plan when no one above him would.

He was promoted to General (4 Star) in June 2000, when he become CENTCOM Commanding General. You may be a little confused in his function and the function of CENTCOM.

Let's see....Army Chain of Command

Commander in Chief: Pres. Bush
Secretary of Defense: Donald Rumsfeld
Secretary of the Army: Gen Thomas E White
Joint Chief of Staff: Gen Richard B. Myers
Army Chief of Staff: Gen Shinseki

Is your contention that Franks was promoted because he supported fewer US troops in the war effort? (even before there was an attack on the WTC?)

I don't recall hearing any decenting opinions from Gen Myers or Gen White......but then, again, I don't subscribe to the same news as you.

 

[Merlin1047]

1st Lt. Kenrick Cato, 34, of Long Island, N.Y., the executive officer of Charlie Company (a unit of the new Iraqi army being trained by Americans), sold his share in a database firm to join the military full time after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Whatever you think of me, this guy is a patriot who has put his body on the line for his country. Read what he has to say from beautiful downtown BAIJI, Iraq, about how things are going:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...5060902245.html?referrer=email&referrer=email

No doubt this gentleman deserves respect and gratitude for his service. But having spent a total of 25 years in the army, I can state unequivocably that the opinions of a lieutenant aren't necessarily the definitive word on any situation in particular.

No doubt there is a factual basis for his statements, but his perspective is narrow due to his duty assignment and his place on the very low end of the chain of command. I'm not seeking to take anything away from him, but I have a sense of perspective which you obviously lack.

 

[Merlin1047]

Who's the guy in your AV mrsx,
Evo Morales?

Nah - I think that's mrsx before the sex change. Or maybe after. Who knows?

 

[mrsx]

Who's the guy in your AV mrsx,
Evo Morales?

That's him. Ain't he cute? He's a little chunkier than Mr. Avenger but then he's had to work for a living.

 

[mrsx]

Nah - I think that's mrsx before the sex change. Or maybe after. Who knows?

Only your Daddy knows for sure, and he ain't tellin' either way! Dream on, big guy, your sex life will always be one handed.

 

[mrsx]

No doubt this gentleman deserves respect and gratitude for his service. But having spent a total of 25 years in the army, I can state unequivocably that the opinions of a lieutenant aren't necessarily the definitive word on any situation in particular.

No doubt there is a factual basis for his statements, but his perspective is narrow due to his duty assignment and his place on the very low end of the chain of command. I'm not seeking to take anything away from him, but I have a sense of perspective which you obviously lack.

I'll cheerfully grant your military experience gives you a sense of perspective different from mine. I delivered babies for Uncle Sam. I'd also agree with you that he doesn't have the "big picture." I believe he is stating his experience and conclusions truthfully. The question is: how representative is his experience? How can we find out?

 

[Mr. P]

That's him. Ain't he cute? He's a little chunkier than Mr. Avenger but then he's had to work for a living.

So then...what you said before.."I'm not liberal" is true ..You're a socialist.

Juan Evo Morales Aima (born October 26, 1959) is a leader of the Bolivian cocalero movement, ...
Morales is also leader of the Bolivian political party, Movement Toward Socialism...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Morales
Or is there some other meaning to the sig line "The coca growers live" and the pic
of a socialist that turns ya on?

 

[mrsx]

So then...what you said before.."I'm not liberal" is true ..You're a socialist.

Juan Evo Morales Aima (born October 26, 1959) is a leader of the Bolivian cocalero movement, ...
Morales is also leader of the Bolivian political party, Movement Toward Socialism...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Morales
Or is there some other meaning to the sig line "The coca growers live" and the pic
of a socialist that turns ya on?

It is good to see you acknowledging that I was telling the truth. Fact is, I don't lie. What's the point of lying, especially within the anonymity of the Internet? Perhaps if others could follow your example and stick to the written text without all the mind reading ("It's you, Wade, isn't it?") I wouldn't have to spank so many of you so often.
One of the cornerstone beliefs of Liberalism is faith in an unfettered, free market capitalism. At issue in Bolivia is the country's natural gas reserves. The cocaleros want to nationalize it and use the profits for health and education, much as Venezuela is doing with its oil. I very much support that position.
The sig line means "Hurrah for the coca growers." Cocaleros is the nickname for Morales' political party. The people of the altiplano have been growing and chewing coca leaves for 10,000 years. In their society, it's sort of analogous to cigarettes and coffee here. The fact that the white man has recently figured out a way to make the leaves into a poison that he can sell to his own children is not the fault of the Indians. In both Bolivia and Peru, chewing coca leaves has become fashionable among students and the urban elites as a symbol of support for indigenous culture and opposition to the U.S. backed narco-war which has poisoned thousands with its aerial spraying. I believe that WTO and World Bank policies have been very harmful to indigenous people, but that is a topic for another thread, another time.

 

[5stringJeff]

One of the cornerstone beliefs of Liberalism is faith in an unfettered, free market capitalism. At issue in Bolivia is the country's natural gas reserves. The cocaleros want to nationalize it and use the profits for health and education, much as Venezuela is doing with its oil. I very much support that position.

1. Free market capitalism may be a hallmark of classical Liberalism, but today's liberals do not favor free market capitalism.

2. Nationalizing an industry is not free-market capitalism. It's the exact opposite.

 

[mrsx]

1. Free market capitalism may be a hallmark of classical Liberalism, but today's liberals do not favor free market capitalism.

2. Nationalizing an industry is not free-market capitalism. It's the exact opposite.

Do you wish to discuss the cocaleros? This thread is [supposed to be] about recruiting difficulties in the U.S. military.

 

[dmp]

I'll cheerfully grant your military experience gives you a sense of perspective different from mine. I delivered babies for Uncle Sam. I'd also agree with you that he doesn't have the "big picture." I believe he is stating his experience and conclusions truthfully. The question is: how representative is his experience? How can we find out?

You find out by asking me. I know his experience is either 'fantasy' or simply so unique it's worthless.

 

[Merlin1047]

Only your Daddy knows for sure, and he ain't tellin' either way! Dream on, big guy, your sex life will always be one handed.

My sex life has become quite an obsession with you, hasn't it? That's really not healthy. You need to find another outlet for your penile fixation / envy.

 

[5stringJeff]

Do you wish to discuss the cocaleros? This thread is [supposed to be] about recruiting difficulties in the U.S. military.

Nice dodge.

If this thread is about recruiting difficulties, why would you want to discuss a South American socialist political party?

 

[Merlin1047]

Do you wish to discuss the cocaleros? This thread is [supposed to be] about recruiting difficulties in the U.S. military.

DAMN! And here I thought this thread was about my sex life.

 

[mrsx]

You find out by asking me. I know his experience is either 'fantasy' or simply so unique it's worthless.

Very amusing. Or perhaps you are serious? He's there - you aren't. At best you are a single observer and so is he. Why would anyone think your views about the status of the Iraqi army are more worth listening to that those of a U.S. army officer who is actually there and doing the job?

 

[mrsx]

Quite the opinionist you are, too bad you have no proof for the dribble!

Sounds to me that you have it all figured out, perhaps being former military and all you wanna throw in you're strategic plan that would be more effective. Explain that to us will ya?

Why not try a more adult way to question the basis for my assertion that the operation was a PR gimmick? The childish sarcasm and personal attack don't make your views any more attractive. And, of course, when I cite the sources that have caused me to conclude that it was a PR gimmick, you will dismiss them with some more name calling. In fact, my evil little companion, it is you who are the TROLL. You aren't producing evidence or even opinion. You hope to stir up anger with your name calling and slander. I shall accept the advice so gallantly offered me by another poster and "ignore the troll."

 

[dmp]

Very amusing. Or perhaps you are serious? He's there - you aren't. At best you are a single observer and so is he. Why would anyone think your views about the status of the Iraqi army are more worth listening to that those of a U.S. army officer who is actually there and doing the job?

Psst...I talk to those guys...I keep away from officers, mostly, and talk to the 'workers'. The NCOs and Soldiers.

 

[Fmr jarhead]

Not to pick nits, but you never answered, after your allegations about Gen Franks promotion.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=292711&postcount=164