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During his campaign, Donald Trump asserted that he'd "choose the best people for my administration." How does one reconcile the veracity of that assertion with the fact that among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII? For Trump's statement to be true, nobody who is otherwise qualified to serve in a Presidential Administration could have and/or would have thought to do so.

Why do I say that? Because everybody in the Trump Administration is well aware that whenever of late that Trump has remarked upon or interacted with minorities, each instance is "colored" by some sort of "dog whistle" for abject racists, that is when his words/deeds aren't irrevocably racist in and of themselves and uttered not "in code" but with the full force of a bullhorn. For example:
  • "Good people, on both sides." -- There is no such thing as a racist who is also a good person; the two states of being are mutually exclusive.
    • Matthew 22:36-40:

      Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
    • Luke 6: 43-44:

      “For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit, for each tree is known by its own fruit."
  • "Look at my African-American over here." -- Really? "His" African-American? I wonder, does he in private actually use the language of ownership/possession when referring to his black employees or supporters?
  • “He’s a Mexican. We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings -- rulings that people can’t even believe.” -- JFC! No remark could better align with the very definition of racism.
Now there's no way that "the best people" would, among the four-hundred of them whom Trump has appointed to work in the WH, have overlooked what merely "good" people would not have. Failing to remove, cover, replace, whatever, the Jackson portrait during the ceremony honoring the Code Talkers is the mark of mediocrity, and that is not what Trump attested his chosen people would be.

Is this oversight the "biggest deal in the world?" Of course not. What it is is yet another patent illustration among the litany of illustrations we have that show damn near everything Trump asserts(-ed) he will do or has done bears little to no resemblance to he in fact does or has done. It is too yet another illustration of Trump's insensitivity. It's yet another "dog whistle" to racists by dint of it being flat-out insulting to the very people whom Trump ostensibly was honoring.


References:

Supplementary Note for folks who don't want to read all those documents:
  1. Summary of main arguments for and against the Indian Removal Act of 1830

    Issues of equality and justice, national economic development, and security from military attack were central to the arguments of both proponents and opponents of Removal. Both said they were concerned with political justice in a good society and they were opposed to oppression and for justice. The obvious question was that of who was being oppressed, and liberty for whom? The opponents argued that Georgia was oppressing the Cherokee and the proponents argued that the federal government was oppressing Georgia. Justice, for Georgia, was for the 1802 agreement to be fully implemented and the Cherokee expelled. Justice, for the Cherokee, was for the treaties with the US to be honored, her borders and people protected, and agreed upon payments to be issued.

    The oppression of the Cherokee people was done in the name of political principles rather than their negation. The proponents did not say to the US public “we don’t care what the rules are; we only care about winning this struggle.” Instead of saying that they stood for the US disavowing and breaking agreements they found disagreeable, the proponents said they were honorable men who were resisting the oppression of the federal government and the Cherokee; Lumpkin said the spokesmen for Georgia were fighting for their rights. They said they were asking for equality of the southern states with those to the north and east in what had been allowed in dealings with Indians. They argued that the opposition to Removal was only prolonging the Indian’s misery and that expulsion would be of benefit to the Indians as well as to the United States. They spoke in the name of progress and national security in a sort of eminent domain on a colossal scale ensuring economic growth, social and political advance, and military security.

    The arguments of the proponents of Removal were clearly self-serving and offered as a justification for the pillage, dispossession, and expulsion of Indian communities. However, their arguments resonated with a large number of people in the country. An essential argument of the proponents was that the treaties were not valid agreements because they were not agreements between civilized nations, but between whites and Indians. By characterizing the resisting Indian communities as savage, heathen, wandering peoples the proponents were laying the basis for dissolving their claims to land and sovereignty. Characterized as a lower race, the Indians were stripped of their standing as recognized in treaties and instead treated as wards and subjects.

    The proponents of Removal argued that in order for the US to be an independent republic in the world of the 19th century it needed to be strong economically and internationally, which required secure borders and a growing population. The proponents were arguing for the continuation of the US policy of expansion that had been followed since the end of open war with Britain in 1783. The opponents of Removal were arguing for a change of policy. The change is hinted at by Evarts when he talks about the slave trade being legal in the past and now being illegal.

    At the same time the stand of the opponents did not fully meet the political offensive of the proponents. They were silent on the charge that the southern states were being held to a different standard than other states that had dealt harshly with Indian communities within their borders. In charging the opposition with unfairly judging southern states by denial of the past history of US/Indian relations, Georgia was on solid ground. I found no apologies in the debates in Congress for the practices, including military campaigns, which resulted in the settlements in the Northwest Territories and their incorporation into the states of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, for example.

    The opponents were arguing for basic principles of honest dealings in calling for the recognition and application of treaty agreements, but those were not the principles employed in the past, and to ignore that fact was a curious loss of memory. Thus the opposition did have the moral high ground of proclamations and documents but also had the baggage of living in a part of the country that had engaged in imperial and colonial expansion and the destruction of many Indian communities.

    The proponents worked to write off the opposition and its appeal to the principles of equality and mutual respect by arguing that those opposing the dispossession and deportation of the Indian people were ignoring the constitutional rights of citizens of the states and the needs of the people.

    The proponents preferred to have the focus of the debate on questions of colonial practice and legislation and US practice and legislation that agreed with that. The proponents cast the opposition to Removal in somewhat the same light as the opposition to Slavery was cast, as a threat to the established order and the progress of US society.

    Ross, Evarts, and Sprague were calling for a turn away from the colonial policies of expansion and control practiced by European countries and continued by the US from the time of its independence. The turn would involve respecting the sovereignty of Indian communities and treating agreements with them in practice as they were written. The turn would involve abandoning, or at least greatly modifying, the incorporation of cheap land as a resource driving the US economy.

    The proponents were able to block that turn and successfully press for the continuation of the principles and policies of colonial expansion that had prevailed up to that time. The racist views of the time and the expectation of many whites that land they could own and develop was an opportunity they were guaranteed were powerful impediments to the reconsideration that recognition of Indians rights would entail.
 
During his campaign, Donald Trump asserted that he'd "choose the best people for my administration." How does one reconcile the veracity of that assertion with the fact that among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII? For Trump's statement to be true, nobody who is otherwise qualified to serve in a Presidential Administration could have and/or would have thought to do so.

Why do I say that? Because everybody in the Trump Administration is well aware that whenever of late that Trump has remarked upon or interacted with minorities, each instance is "colored" by some sort of "dog whistle" for abject racists, that is when his words/deeds aren't irrevocably racist in and of themselves and uttered not "in code" but with the full force of a bullhorn. For example:
  • "Good people, on both sides." -- There is no such thing as a racist who is also a good person; the two states of being are mutually exclusive.
    • Matthew 22:36-40:

      Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
    • Luke 6: 43-44:

      “For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit, for each tree is known by its own fruit."
  • "Look at my African-American over here." -- Really? "His" African-American? I wonder, does he in private actually use the language of ownership/possession when referring to his black employees or supporters?
  • “He’s a Mexican. We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings -- rulings that people can’t even believe.” -- JFC! No remark could better align with the very definition of racism.
Now there's no way that "the best people" would, among the four-hundred of them whom Trump has appointed to work in the WH, have overlooked what merely "good" people would not have. Failing to remove, cover, replace, whatever, the Jackson portrait during the ceremony honoring the Code Talkers is the mark of mediocrity, and that is not what Trump attested his chosen people would be.

Is this oversight the "biggest deal in the world?" Of course not. What it is is yet another patent illustration among the litany of illustrations we have that show damn near everything Trump asserts(-ed) he will do or has done bears little to no resemblance to he in fact does or has done. It is too yet another illustration of Trump's insensitivity. It's yet another "dog whistle" to racists by dint of it being flat-out insulting to the very people whom Trump ostensibly was honoring.


References:

Supplementary Note for folks who don't want to read all those documents:
  1. Summary of main arguments for and against the Indian Removal Act of 1830

    Issues of equality and justice, national economic development, and security from military attack were central to the arguments of both proponents and opponents of Removal. Both said they were concerned with political justice in a good society and they were opposed to oppression and for justice. The obvious question was that of who was being oppressed, and liberty for whom? The opponents argued that Georgia was oppressing the Cherokee and the proponents argued that the federal government was oppressing Georgia. Justice, for Georgia, was for the 1802 agreement to be fully implemented and the Cherokee expelled. Justice, for the Cherokee, was for the treaties with the US to be honored, her borders and people protected, and agreed upon payments to be issued.

    The oppression of the Cherokee people was done in the name of political principles rather than their negation. The proponents did not say to the US public “we don’t care what the rules are; we only care about winning this struggle.” Instead of saying that they stood for the US disavowing and breaking agreements they found disagreeable, the proponents said they were honorable men who were resisting the oppression of the federal government and the Cherokee; Lumpkin said the spokesmen for Georgia were fighting for their rights. They said they were asking for equality of the southern states with those to the north and east in what had been allowed in dealings with Indians. They argued that the opposition to Removal was only prolonging the Indian’s misery and that expulsion would be of benefit to the Indians as well as to the United States. They spoke in the name of progress and national security in a sort of eminent domain on a colossal scale ensuring economic growth, social and political advance, and military security.

    The arguments of the proponents of Removal were clearly self-serving and offered as a justification for the pillage, dispossession, and expulsion of Indian communities. However, their arguments resonated with a large number of people in the country. An essential argument of the proponents was that the treaties were not valid agreements because they were not agreements between civilized nations, but between whites and Indians. By characterizing the resisting Indian communities as savage, heathen, wandering peoples the proponents were laying the basis for dissolving their claims to land and sovereignty. Characterized as a lower race, the Indians were stripped of their standing as recognized in treaties and instead treated as wards and subjects.

    The proponents of Removal argued that in order for the US to be an independent republic in the world of the 19th century it needed to be strong economically and internationally, which required secure borders and a growing population. The proponents were arguing for the continuation of the US policy of expansion that had been followed since the end of open war with Britain in 1783. The opponents of Removal were arguing for a change of policy. The change is hinted at by Evarts when he talks about the slave trade being legal in the past and now being illegal.

    At the same time the stand of the opponents did not fully meet the political offensive of the proponents. They were silent on the charge that the southern states were being held to a different standard than other states that had dealt harshly with Indian communities within their borders. In charging the opposition with unfairly judging southern states by denial of the past history of US/Indian relations, Georgia was on solid ground. I found no apologies in the debates in Congress for the practices, including military campaigns, which resulted in the settlements in the Northwest Territories and their incorporation into the states of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, for example.

    The opponents were arguing for basic principles of honest dealings in calling for the recognition and application of treaty agreements, but those were not the principles employed in the past, and to ignore that fact was a curious loss of memory. Thus the opposition did have the moral high ground of proclamations and documents but also had the baggage of living in a part of the country that had engaged in imperial and colonial expansion and the destruction of many Indian communities.

    The proponents worked to write off the opposition and its appeal to the principles of equality and mutual respect by arguing that those opposing the dispossession and deportation of the Indian people were ignoring the constitutional rights of citizens of the states and the needs of the people.

    The proponents preferred to have the focus of the debate on questions of colonial practice and legislation and US practice and legislation that agreed with that. The proponents cast the opposition to Removal in somewhat the same light as the opposition to Slavery was cast, as a threat to the established order and the progress of US society.

    Ross, Evarts, and Sprague were calling for a turn away from the colonial policies of expansion and control practiced by European countries and continued by the US from the time of its independence. The turn would involve respecting the sovereignty of Indian communities and treating agreements with them in practice as they were written. The turn would involve abandoning, or at least greatly modifying, the incorporation of cheap land as a resource driving the US economy.

    The proponents were able to block that turn and successfully press for the continuation of the principles and policies of colonial expansion that had prevailed up to that time. The racist views of the time and the expectation of many whites that land they could own and develop was an opportunity they were guaranteed were powerful impediments to the reconsideration that recognition of Indians rights would entail.
I have some Injun in my heritage and I'm proud of it. Trump didn't offend me. What your argument is about is that everyone should be so PC that their neck squeaks when they turn their head. All this PC shit is gonna disappear.
 
Why the novel?
This administration is smart and the people within have a ballsack....Smart people understand history and aren't ashamed of what took place in past times. How far back should we go? Smart people aren't so pussified that for a few seconds we need to dumb down and pretend that shit didn't happen. Fucking retarded thread....Find your balls pussy!
 
Why the novel?
This administration is smart and the people within have a ballsack....Smart people understand history and aren't ashamed of what took place in past times. How far back should we go? Smart people aren't so pussified that for a few seconds we need to dumb down and pretend that shit didn't happen. Fucking retarded thread....Find your balls pussy!
Why the novel?

I've never written a novel.
 
During his campaign, Donald Trump asserted that he'd "choose the best people for my administration." How does one reconcile the veracity of that assertion with the fact that among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII? For Trump's statement to be true, nobody who is otherwise qualified to serve in a Presidential Administration could have and/or would have thought to do so.

Why do I say that? Because everybody in the Trump Administration is well aware that whenever of late that Trump has remarked upon or interacted with minorities, each instance is "colored" by some sort of "dog whistle" for abject racists, that is when his words/deeds aren't irrevocably racist in and of themselves and uttered not "in code" but with the full force of a bullhorn. For example:
  • "Good people, on both sides." -- There is no such thing as a racist who is also a good person; the two states of being are mutually exclusive.
    • Matthew 22:36-40:

      Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
    • Luke 6: 43-44:

      “For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit, for each tree is known by its own fruit."
  • "Look at my African-American over here." -- Really? "His" African-American? I wonder, does he in private actually use the language of ownership/possession when referring to his black employees or supporters?
  • “He’s a Mexican. We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings -- rulings that people can’t even believe.” -- JFC! No remark could better align with the very definition of racism.
Now there's no way that "the best people" would, among the four-hundred of them whom Trump has appointed to work in the WH, have overlooked what merely "good" people would not have. Failing to remove, cover, replace, whatever, the Jackson portrait during the ceremony honoring the Code Talkers is the mark of mediocrity, and that is not what Trump attested his chosen people would be.

Is this oversight the "biggest deal in the world?" Of course not. What it is is yet another patent illustration among the litany of illustrations we have that show damn near everything Trump asserts(-ed) he will do or has done bears little to no resemblance to he in fact does or has done. It is too yet another illustration of Trump's insensitivity. It's yet another "dog whistle" to racists by dint of it being flat-out insulting to the very people whom Trump ostensibly was honoring.


References:

Supplementary Note for folks who don't want to read all those documents:
  1. Summary of main arguments for and against the Indian Removal Act of 1830

    Issues of equality and justice, national economic development, and security from military attack were central to the arguments of both proponents and opponents of Removal. Both said they were concerned with political justice in a good society and they were opposed to oppression and for justice. The obvious question was that of who was being oppressed, and liberty for whom? The opponents argued that Georgia was oppressing the Cherokee and the proponents argued that the federal government was oppressing Georgia. Justice, for Georgia, was for the 1802 agreement to be fully implemented and the Cherokee expelled. Justice, for the Cherokee, was for the treaties with the US to be honored, her borders and people protected, and agreed upon payments to be issued.

    The oppression of the Cherokee people was done in the name of political principles rather than their negation. The proponents did not say to the US public “we don’t care what the rules are; we only care about winning this struggle.” Instead of saying that they stood for the US disavowing and breaking agreements they found disagreeable, the proponents said they were honorable men who were resisting the oppression of the federal government and the Cherokee; Lumpkin said the spokesmen for Georgia were fighting for their rights. They said they were asking for equality of the southern states with those to the north and east in what had been allowed in dealings with Indians. They argued that the opposition to Removal was only prolonging the Indian’s misery and that expulsion would be of benefit to the Indians as well as to the United States. They spoke in the name of progress and national security in a sort of eminent domain on a colossal scale ensuring economic growth, social and political advance, and military security.

    The arguments of the proponents of Removal were clearly self-serving and offered as a justification for the pillage, dispossession, and expulsion of Indian communities. However, their arguments resonated with a large number of people in the country. An essential argument of the proponents was that the treaties were not valid agreements because they were not agreements between civilized nations, but between whites and Indians. By characterizing the resisting Indian communities as savage, heathen, wandering peoples the proponents were laying the basis for dissolving their claims to land and sovereignty. Characterized as a lower race, the Indians were stripped of their standing as recognized in treaties and instead treated as wards and subjects.

    The proponents of Removal argued that in order for the US to be an independent republic in the world of the 19th century it needed to be strong economically and internationally, which required secure borders and a growing population. The proponents were arguing for the continuation of the US policy of expansion that had been followed since the end of open war with Britain in 1783. The opponents of Removal were arguing for a change of policy. The change is hinted at by Evarts when he talks about the slave trade being legal in the past and now being illegal.

    At the same time the stand of the opponents did not fully meet the political offensive of the proponents. They were silent on the charge that the southern states were being held to a different standard than other states that had dealt harshly with Indian communities within their borders. In charging the opposition with unfairly judging southern states by denial of the past history of US/Indian relations, Georgia was on solid ground. I found no apologies in the debates in Congress for the practices, including military campaigns, which resulted in the settlements in the Northwest Territories and their incorporation into the states of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, for example.

    The opponents were arguing for basic principles of honest dealings in calling for the recognition and application of treaty agreements, but those were not the principles employed in the past, and to ignore that fact was a curious loss of memory. Thus the opposition did have the moral high ground of proclamations and documents but also had the baggage of living in a part of the country that had engaged in imperial and colonial expansion and the destruction of many Indian communities.

    The proponents worked to write off the opposition and its appeal to the principles of equality and mutual respect by arguing that those opposing the dispossession and deportation of the Indian people were ignoring the constitutional rights of citizens of the states and the needs of the people.

    The proponents preferred to have the focus of the debate on questions of colonial practice and legislation and US practice and legislation that agreed with that. The proponents cast the opposition to Removal in somewhat the same light as the opposition to Slavery was cast, as a threat to the established order and the progress of US society.

    Ross, Evarts, and Sprague were calling for a turn away from the colonial policies of expansion and control practiced by European countries and continued by the US from the time of its independence. The turn would involve respecting the sovereignty of Indian communities and treating agreements with them in practice as they were written. The turn would involve abandoning, or at least greatly modifying, the incorporation of cheap land as a resource driving the US economy.

    The proponents were able to block that turn and successfully press for the continuation of the principles and policies of colonial expansion that had prevailed up to that time. The racist views of the time and the expectation of many whites that land they could own and develop was an opportunity they were guaranteed were powerful impediments to the reconsideration that recognition of Indians rights would entail.

What a petty, whiny post. Make you feel better?
 
among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII?

Why should anyone start "swapping out" or removing portraits of Presidents in the White House?

If someone gets offended by a portrait (in this case: of the same guy that's on the twenty dollar bill) then they need to grow the fuck up.
 
Just saw a clip where one of the Native American Code Talkers told a gaggle of press who asked him about Trump's supposedly racist remark.He said, "When I was in the Army and we jumped from airplanes, we were told to yell "Geronimo." I didn't feel offended."
 
among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII?

Why should anyone start "swapping out" or removing portraits of Presidents in the White House?

If someone gets offended by a portrait (in this case: of the same guy that's on the twenty dollar bill) then they need to grow the fuck up.
Oh, well, I didn't have high expectations that most members here would understand the question....
During his campaign, Donald Trump asserted that he'd "choose the best people for my administration." How does one reconcile the veracity of that assertion with the fact that among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII?

It's okay that you're among those who didn't/don'tand therefore cannot deliver a topically substantive response to it. That is what it is....
 
among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII?

Why should anyone start "swapping out" or removing portraits of Presidents in the White House?

If someone gets offended by a portrait (in this case: of the same guy that's on the twenty dollar bill) then they need to grow the fuck up.
Oh, well, I didn't have high expectations that most members here would understand the question....
If that's the case then:
a.) You need to work on your communications skills, unless of course you're just posting to talk to yourself.
b.) You need to find something better to do and stop wasting other peoples time with inane "questions" that apparently you and some undefined minority of the message board understand.
c.) A combination of a and b

For what it's worth, your "question" seemed pretty clear in that you were suggesting that not removing certain Presidential Portraits from the White House walls because some visiting group or other might get offended by them is an indication of staff incompetence, which IMHO, is patently ludicrous. People getting offended by pictures, statues, et. al is flat out childish and is a symptom of the "I have a right to not be offended" sickness that infects modern Western Society.
 
among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII?

Why should anyone start "swapping out" or removing portraits of Presidents in the White House?

If someone gets offended by a portrait (in this case: of the same guy that's on the twenty dollar bill) then they need to grow the fuck up.
Oh, well, I didn't have high expectations that most members here would understand the question....
If that's the case then:
a.) You need to work on your communications skills, unless of course you're just posting to talk to yourself.
b.) You need to find something better to do and stop wasting other peoples time with inane "questions" that apparently you and some undefined minority of the message board understand.
c.) A combination of a and b

For what it's worth, your "question" seemed pretty clear in that you were suggesting that not removing certain Presidential Portraits from the White House walls because some visiting group or other might get offended by them is an indication of staff incompetence, which IMHO, is patently ludicrous. People getting offended by pictures, statues, et. al is flat out childish and is a symptom of the "I have a right to not be offended" sickness that infects modern Western Society.
For what it's worth, your "question" seemed pretty clear in that you were suggesting that not removing certain Presidential Portraits from the White House walls because some visiting group or other might get offended by them is an indication of staff incompetence, which IMHO, is patently ludicrous.

Actually, the point of the OP is that not doing something with the damn portrait is indicative of the people Trump's hired not being "the best," not that they are incompetent. There're a many places on the competence spectrum besides the endpoints of "the best" and "incompetence." Trump promised to hire "the best" people, and it's clear that isn't what he's done. They may be good, they may be mediocre, but "the best," they ain't that.
 
among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII?

Why should anyone start "swapping out" or removing portraits of Presidents in the White House?

If someone gets offended by a portrait (in this case: of the same guy that's on the twenty dollar bill) then they need to grow the fuck up.
Oh, well, I didn't have high expectations that most members here would understand the question....
During his campaign, Donald Trump asserted that he'd "choose the best people for my administration." How does one reconcile the veracity of that assertion with the fact that among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII?

It's okay that you're among those who didn't/don'tand therefore cannot deliver a topically substantive response to it. That is what it is....
you keep confusing apathy for ignorance but i just don't care anymore.
 
among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII?

Why should anyone start "swapping out" or removing portraits of Presidents in the White House?

If someone gets offended by a portrait (in this case: of the same guy that's on the twenty dollar bill) then they need to grow the fuck up.
Oh, well, I didn't have high expectations that most members here would understand the question....
If that's the case then:
a.) You need to work on your communications skills, unless of course you're just posting to talk to yourself.
b.) You need to find something better to do and stop wasting other peoples time with inane "questions" that apparently you and some undefined minority of the message board understand.
c.) A combination of a and b

For what it's worth, your "question" seemed pretty clear in that you were suggesting that not removing certain Presidential Portraits from the White House walls because some visiting group or other might get offended by them is an indication of staff incompetence, which IMHO, is patently ludicrous. People getting offended by pictures, statues, et. al is flat out childish and is a symptom of the "I have a right to not be offended" sickness that infects modern Western Society.
For what it's worth, your "question" seemed pretty clear in that you were suggesting that not removing certain Presidential Portraits from the White House walls because some visiting group or other might get offended by them is an indication of staff incompetence, which IMHO, is patently ludicrous.

Actually, the point of the OP is that not doing something with the damn portrait is indicative of the people Trump's hired not being "the best," not that they are incompetent. .
Fair enough, however it doesn't change the fact that not removing a portrait of a former President from a White House Wall isn't any indication of "best", "worst" or anything in between, if that's the best example you can come up with to call into question whether or not President Twitter is hiring "the best" then you've lost that argument.

In fact in my estimation going out of their way to remove the portrait would be a far more valid reason to call somebody's judgement into question. Personally I don't want to pay the assholes in the White House to run around worrying about whether or not the decorations are politically correct at any given moment, if we're paying people to do that, we're wasting our money and they need to be gotten rid of poste haste in favor of people that can work on the plethora of REAL problems the nation is struggling with.
 
among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII?

Why should anyone start "swapping out" or removing portraits of Presidents in the White House?

If someone gets offended by a portrait (in this case: of the same guy that's on the twenty dollar bill) then they need to grow the fuck up.
Oh, well, I didn't have high expectations that most members here would understand the question....
If that's the case then:
a.) You need to work on your communications skills, unless of course you're just posting to talk to yourself.
b.) You need to find something better to do and stop wasting other peoples time with inane "questions" that apparently you and some undefined minority of the message board understand.
c.) A combination of a and b

For what it's worth, your "question" seemed pretty clear in that you were suggesting that not removing certain Presidential Portraits from the White House walls because some visiting group or other might get offended by them is an indication of staff incompetence, which IMHO, is patently ludicrous. People getting offended by pictures, statues, et. al is flat out childish and is a symptom of the "I have a right to not be offended" sickness that infects modern Western Society.
For what it's worth, your "question" seemed pretty clear in that you were suggesting that not removing certain Presidential Portraits from the White House walls because some visiting group or other might get offended by them is an indication of staff incompetence, which IMHO, is patently ludicrous.

Actually, the point of the OP is that not doing something with the damn portrait is indicative of the people Trump's hired not being "the best," not that they are incompetent. .
Fair enough, however it doesn't change the fact that not removing a portrait of a former President from a White House Wall isn't any indication of "best", "worst" or anything in between, if that's the best example you can come up with to call into question whether or not President Twitter is hiring "the best" then you've lost that argument.

In fact in my estimation going out of their way to remove the portrait would be a far more valid reason to call somebody's judgement into question. Personally I don't want to pay the assholes in the White House to run around worrying about whether or not the decorations are politically correct at any given moment, if we're paying people to do that, we're wasting our money and they need to be gotten rid of poste haste in favor of people that can work on the plethora of REAL problems the nation is struggling with.
if that's the best example you can come up with to call into question whether or not President Twitter is hiring "the best" then you've lost that argument.

It's an example that supports the assertion. There are plenty of others; however, all of them are manifestations of blunders that result from the lack of policy making, diplomacy (domestic and foreign), and other forms of public service experience among the bulk of the people Trump has enlisted to work in the WH. While the best people may occasionally blunder, they don't day in and day out make them and, more importantly, they don't let their principal make them. The best people for a given job are able to "hit the ground running," as it were. That is most certainly not what we've observed.

Hiring the best people is what executive do so that the executive's own shortcomings are mitigated by their people's experience and expertise. Trump seems completely disinclined to do that, and it shows. For instance, Trump is of the mind that everything's negotiable. As goes public policy making, that's simply not the case and people experienced with governing know that. The brick wall Trump encountered in negotiating health care illustrated that; the Freedom Caucus had real limits on what they are willing to do. Were Trump to have hired the best people to work in the WH, they'd have found a way to disabuse Trump of his notions about what is and isn't negotiable.

The root cause of the WH not being staffed with the best people is, of course, Trump's own poor management skills. Quite simply, Trump is ineffective at or unwilling to bring in experts to help him learn about areas where he lacked expertise and not make blunders -- great or small -- as a result of his governing inexperience. A lack of experience will not necessarily lead to failure on its own, but the answer to that inexperience is to bring in more seasoned people and staff up the executive branch.

The above notwithstanding, the point is that Trump averred that he'd hire the best people. The "drip, drip, drip" of missteps show that, quite simply, he has not at all done that.
 
among all the people Trump hired, not one has the presence of mind to swap out a painting of Andrew Jackson for some other painting (or just remove it) for the period of time that a handful of Native Americans were in the Oval Office for a ceremony commending their contribution to WWII?

Why should anyone start "swapping out" or removing portraits of Presidents in the White House?

If someone gets offended by a portrait (in this case: of the same guy that's on the twenty dollar bill) then they need to grow the fuck up.
Oh, well, I didn't have high expectations that most members here would understand the question....
If that's the case then:
a.) You need to work on your communications skills, unless of course you're just posting to talk to yourself.
b.) You need to find something better to do and stop wasting other peoples time with inane "questions" that apparently you and some undefined minority of the message board understand.
c.) A combination of a and b

For what it's worth, your "question" seemed pretty clear in that you were suggesting that not removing certain Presidential Portraits from the White House walls because some visiting group or other might get offended by them is an indication of staff incompetence, which IMHO, is patently ludicrous. People getting offended by pictures, statues, et. al is flat out childish and is a symptom of the "I have a right to not be offended" sickness that infects modern Western Society.
For what it's worth, your "question" seemed pretty clear in that you were suggesting that not removing certain Presidential Portraits from the White House walls because some visiting group or other might get offended by them is an indication of staff incompetence, which IMHO, is patently ludicrous.

Actually, the point of the OP is that not doing something with the damn portrait is indicative of the people Trump's hired not being "the best," not that they are incompetent. .
Fair enough, however it doesn't change the fact that not removing a portrait of a former President from a White House Wall isn't any indication of "best", "worst" or anything in between, if that's the best example you can come up with to call into question whether or not President Twitter is hiring "the best" then you've lost that argument.

In fact in my estimation going out of their way to remove the portrait would be a far more valid reason to call somebody's judgement into question. Personally I don't want to pay the assholes in the White House to run around worrying about whether or not the decorations are politically correct at any given moment, if we're paying people to do that, we're wasting our money and they need to be gotten rid of poste haste in favor of people that can work on the plethora of REAL problems the nation is struggling with.
if that's the best example you can come up with to call into question whether or not President Twitter is hiring "the best" then you've lost that argument.

It's an example that supports the assertion.
No as I explained to you it doesn't, it actually contradicts your assertion.

There are plenty of others;
I agree there are, perhaps you should consider using those to support your argument instead of going down a completely irrelevant, politically correct blind alley.
 
Oh, well, I didn't have high expectations that most members here would understand the question....
If that's the case then:
a.) You need to work on your communications skills, unless of course you're just posting to talk to yourself.
b.) You need to find something better to do and stop wasting other peoples time with inane "questions" that apparently you and some undefined minority of the message board understand.
c.) A combination of a and b

For what it's worth, your "question" seemed pretty clear in that you were suggesting that not removing certain Presidential Portraits from the White House walls because some visiting group or other might get offended by them is an indication of staff incompetence, which IMHO, is patently ludicrous. People getting offended by pictures, statues, et. al is flat out childish and is a symptom of the "I have a right to not be offended" sickness that infects modern Western Society.
For what it's worth, your "question" seemed pretty clear in that you were suggesting that not removing certain Presidential Portraits from the White House walls because some visiting group or other might get offended by them is an indication of staff incompetence, which IMHO, is patently ludicrous.

Actually, the point of the OP is that not doing something with the damn portrait is indicative of the people Trump's hired not being "the best," not that they are incompetent. .
Fair enough, however it doesn't change the fact that not removing a portrait of a former President from a White House Wall isn't any indication of "best", "worst" or anything in between, if that's the best example you can come up with to call into question whether or not President Twitter is hiring "the best" then you've lost that argument.

In fact in my estimation going out of their way to remove the portrait would be a far more valid reason to call somebody's judgement into question. Personally I don't want to pay the assholes in the White House to run around worrying about whether or not the decorations are politically correct at any given moment, if we're paying people to do that, we're wasting our money and they need to be gotten rid of poste haste in favor of people that can work on the plethora of REAL problems the nation is struggling with.
if that's the best example you can come up with to call into question whether or not President Twitter is hiring "the best" then you've lost that argument.

It's an example that supports the assertion.
No as I explained to you it doesn't, it actually contradicts your assertion.

There are plenty of others;
I agree there are, perhaps you should consider using those to support your argument instead of going down a completely irrelevant, politically correct blind alley.
Obviously, you don't understand the rhetorical purpose/message of the OP. I'm not chiding you for not understanding it. That is what it is. I'm simply noting that you don't. I'll note too that the "as you explained it" notions you shared reflect what you think be the rhetorical purpose of the OP, not what is its rhetorical purpose/message.
 
Obviously, you don't understand the rhetorical purpose/message of the OP. I'm not chiding you for not understanding it. That is what it is. I'm simply noting that you don't. I'll note too that the "as you explained it" notions you shared reflect what you think be the rhetorical purpose of the OP, not what is its rhetorical purpose/message.

Obviously not, on the surface it appeared that you were attempting to discredit President Twitters claims about hiring "the best" using an example that wouldn't convince anybody except for those that live with their hyper-sensitive, politically correct heads up their sheltered from reality asses.

Since you're one of the few posters on this board that actually formulates arguments using reason and evidence most of the time; perhaps next time you decide to take a trip down esoteric lane you might consider including a decoder ring with your post so your argument can be properly understood.

Have a GREAT day. ;)

"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- George Bernard Shaw
 
Obviously, you don't understand the rhetorical purpose/message of the OP. I'm not chiding you for not understanding it. That is what it is. I'm simply noting that you don't. I'll note too that the "as you explained it" notions you shared reflect what you think be the rhetorical purpose of the OP, not what is its rhetorical purpose/message.

Obviously not, on the surface it appeared that you were attempting to discredit President Twitters claims about hiring "the best" using an example that wouldn't convince anybody except for those that live with their hyper-sensitive, politically correct heads up their sheltered from reality asses.

Since you're one of the few posters on this board that actually formulates arguments using reason and evidence most of the time; perhaps next time you decide to take a trip down esoteric lane you might consider including a decoder ring with your post so your argument can be properly understood.

Have a GREAT day. ;)

"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- George Bernard Shaw
Obviously not

TY for acknowledging as much.

President Twitters claims about hiring "the best"
OT:
Did you actually fully read the OP? Had you, you'd have clicked on the link and found that the claim to which I referred wasn't a Twitter claim.
 

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