Recognition not territory

[aris2chat]

Israel: Conflict over recognition, not territory · 3y
The Palestinians have rejected Netanyahu's demand to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, saying that would undermine the rights of Israel's Arab minority as well as millions of refugees whose families lost properties during ... but said that for talks ...

>>David Pollock House Foreign Affairs hearing: Arab FMs agreed to "Jewish state" recognition during 2013-4 talks; Palestinians said no<<

Other than Israel and Israelis to disappear off the face of the earth, Palestinians don't seem to know or agree on what they do actually want.

Throw it all against the wall and see what sticks.

How do you talk to or make an agreement when Palestinians can't agree and the "demands" keep shifting from day to day?

 

[Boston1]

The first myth to dispel is the notion there is any such people as palestinians, there isn't, what there is, is a group of welfare mama's best described as itinerant Arab Muslims left over from the nation building process who refused to participate in that process. Instead they preferred to engage in a war which they lost. And now we have the UN perpetuating a phony refugee issue.

Their refusal to recognize Israel is just another ploy in their PR campaign to foist the great lie on the world. That these people have been displaced. The truth is that virtually all of them are recent immigrants from Muslim Arab countries attempting to ride the coat tails of Israel's prosperity.

I say throw the bums out

 

[Fenton Lum]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

 

[Boston1]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

What welfare ?

Looks like we another one fooled by all the itinerant Arab Muslim propaganda. Israel receives a small incentive to continue purchasing US made weapons. It amounts to a discount on the tens of billions they spend in the US economy. In return the US gets great weapons development and testing opportunities via the Israeli military and the stupidity of the Itinerant Arab Muslims. Where else could Iron Dome have been developed, or the short range missile defense systems now used on the Mircova tanks ?

No the welfare line is a lie, intended to destabilize a very advantageous relationship we have with Israel.

Might want to check your facts before continuing on this track there Fenton

 

[Fenton Lum]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

What welfare ?

Looks like we another one fooled by all the itinerant Arab Muslim propaganda. Israel receives a small incentive to continue purchasing US made weapons. It amounts to a discount on the tens of billions they spend in the US economy. In return the US gets great weapons development and testing opportunities via the Israeli military and the stupidity of the Itinerant Arab Muslims. Where else could Iron Dome have been developed, or the short range missile defense systems now used on the Mircova tanks ?

No the welfare line is a lie, intended to destabilize a very advantageous relationship we have with Israel.

Might want to check your facts before continuing on this track there Fenton

~20% of their military budget funded by us taxpayers, check it out. Arming the middle east and then lamenting the violence is pretty shitty. The US subsidizes Isreal, it's pretty well known. Unless you'd rather not know.

 

[aris2chat]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

Looks to me using your "data" like only Israel gets welfare from US taxpayers.

 

[aris2chat]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

Looks to me using your "data" like only Israel gets welfare from US taxpayers.

$1.7 billion on average advanced military aid for Israel. Money must be spent to US companies.
on top of the $1.85 billion of tax income given to the PA from Israel, palestinians are given $5 billion from global sources, of which close to $2 billion they receive goes missing. PA & G also get donations of fuel and construction of hospitals and new housing. Soon, depending on terrorism, an island in the waters off G will be created for a harbor and airport paid for by Turkey. They get a third of their electric from Israel as well as clean water from Israel, doubled recently. There are plans for desalination plant off gaza.

Before Israel handed over G to the Palestinians, they had an airport, hotels, casinos and tourist attractions in place to generate jobs and bring more investment for Gaza. They had farms and green houses for hydroponics farming, but Palestinians destroyed them.

Hamas could not or would not maintain the wells and aquafers, sewage, electric plants in place when Israel left.
They have fish farms that produce far more, safe fish than they could get by fishing the sea, which they pollute and fish are unsafe to eat.

Even more a ship load of supplies just arrived from Turkey and delivered to G on top of what is delivered every day from Israel.

So who is the one on welfare???? Hamas won't even allow the power plant they operate for 1/3 what G uses to get the fuel it needs to operate 24/7. Israel and Egypt supply the other 2/3.

 

[aris2chat]

This is what the Palestinians build while the people suffer.

Self-sufficient green city built but not allow Palestinians to move into

A new modern housing project built by Qatar just opened in G

 

[Boston1]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

What welfare ?

Looks like we another one fooled by all the itinerant Arab Muslim propaganda. Israel receives a small incentive to continue purchasing US made weapons. It amounts to a discount on the tens of billions they spend in the US economy. In return the US gets great weapons development and testing opportunities via the Israeli military and the stupidity of the Itinerant Arab Muslims. Where else could Iron Dome have been developed, or the short range missile defense systems now used on the Mircova tanks ?

No the welfare line is a lie, intended to destabilize a very advantageous relationship we have with Israel.

Might want to check your facts before continuing on this track there Fenton

~20% of their military budget funded by us taxpayers, check it out. Arming the middle east and then lamenting the violence is pretty shitty. The US subsidizes Isreal, it's pretty well known. Unless you'd rather not know.

Nonsense.

It depends on who's doing the counting as to what any country spends on its military but on average in 2015

Israel spent 18.5 billion according to international institute for strategic studies. While at the same time it got about 3 billion from the US gov, or about 15 %

Of which Israel is required to spend ALL of it on US arms. So the subsidy on arms purchases is essentially a discount funded by the US for arms purchases in the US.

Its a win win for everyone.

But lets not exaggerate the discount or fail to realize it does nothing but help feed US families and support US jobs

 

[Boston1]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

Looks to me using your "data" like only Israel gets welfare from US taxpayers.

I didn't know people were required to spend their welfare on weapons from a particular group of suppliers ;--)

Fact is that the discount Israel gets on weapons purchases is money well spent as it helps feed US families and support US jobs

 

[P F Tinmore]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

Looks to me using your "data" like only Israel gets welfare from US taxpayers.

I didn't know people were required to spend their welfare on weapons from a particular group of suppliers ;--)

Fact is that the discount Israel gets on weapons purchases is money well spent as it helps feed US families and support US jobs

The Military Industrial Complex is always a net loss for an economy.

 

[Hollie]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

Looks to me using your "data" like only Israel gets welfare from US taxpayers.

I didn't know people were required to spend their welfare on weapons from a particular group of suppliers ;--)

Fact is that the discount Israel gets on weapons purchases is money well spent as it helps feed US families and support US jobs

The Military Industrial Complex is always a net loss for an economy.

Goofy 1960's era slogans?

Wannabe hippies are a hoot.

 

[Phoenall]

Israel: Conflict over recognition, not territory · 3y
The Palestinians have rejected Netanyahu's demand to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, saying that would undermine the rights of Israel's Arab minority as well as millions of refugees whose families lost properties during ... but said that for talks ...

>>David Pollock House Foreign Affairs hearing: Arab FMs agreed to "Jewish state" recognition during 2013-4 talks; Palestinians said no<<

Other than Israel and Israelis to disappear off the face of the earth, Palestinians don't seem to know or agree on what they do actually want.

Throw it all against the wall and see what sticks.

How do you talk to or make an agreement when Palestinians can't agree and the "demands" keep shifting from day to day?

This is their ploy, to divide world opinion through lies and manipulations so they can blame Israel for the mess they have created. Time for the UN to step in and demand that the palestinians hold elections within 3 months, then start talks from a blank sheet along the lines of the UN resolutions applicable and in accordance with the UN charter. A failure to do so will see the palestinian rpresentative expelled from the UN and palestine removed as being a nation

 

[Phoenall]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

Looks to me using your "data" like only Israel gets welfare from US taxpayers.

I didn't know people were required to spend their welfare on weapons from a particular group of suppliers ;--)

Fact is that the discount Israel gets on weapons purchases is money well spent as it helps feed US families and support US jobs

The Military Industrial Complex is always a net loss for an economy.

Are these your new buzz words when you have no intelligent adult reply to posts.


But in matters of safety and defnce it is worth more than gold to a nation under constant terrorist attack

 

[Fenton Lum]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

Looks to me using your "data" like only Israel gets welfare from US taxpayers.

I didn't know people were required to spend their welfare on weapons from a particular group of suppliers ;--)

Fact is that the discount Israel gets on weapons purchases is money well spent as it helps feed US families and support US jobs

The Military Industrial Complex is always a net loss for an economy.

Are these your new buzz words when you have no intelligent adult reply to posts.


But in matters of safety and defnce it is worth more than gold to a nation under constant terrorist attack

These are your old buzz words when you have no intelligent adult reply to posts.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

Looks to me using your "data" like only Israel gets welfare from US taxpayers.

I didn't know people were required to spend their welfare on weapons from a particular group of suppliers ;--)

Fact is that the discount Israel gets on weapons purchases is money well spent as it helps feed US families and support US jobs

The Military Industrial Complex is always a net loss for an economy.

Goofy 1960's era slogans?

Wannabe hippies are a hoot.

You should look into how much empire sucks out of our society.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

Looks to me using your "data" like only Israel gets welfare from US taxpayers.

I didn't know people were required to spend their welfare on weapons from a particular group of suppliers ;--)

Fact is that the discount Israel gets on weapons purchases is money well spent as it helps feed US families and support US jobs

Arming the middle east as economic advantage, quite a stretch. And still, we have to occupy the middle east and engage in endless war.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Fuck Israel, cut them off welfare and let them handle their own affairs.

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

Looks to me using your "data" like only Israel gets welfare from US taxpayers.

I didn't know people were required to spend their welfare on weapons from a particular group of suppliers ;--)

Fact is that the discount Israel gets on weapons purchases is money well spent as it helps feed US families and support US jobs

Arming the middle east as economic advantage, quite a stretch. And still, we have to occupy the middle east and engage in endless war.

Indeed, never ending war for never ending profits. (for the 1%)

 

[Phoenall]

Palestinians are on welfare hand outs.

UN, PA and arab states are keep them refugees.
Hamas mishandles money paid them from the PA.
Hamas controls the distribution of the 1000+ supplies delivered to Gaza daily.

Israel gets military assistance to protect themselves from attacks, because palestinians won't make peace.

Looks to me using your "data" like only Israel gets welfare from US taxpayers.

I didn't know people were required to spend their welfare on weapons from a particular group of suppliers ;--)

Fact is that the discount Israel gets on weapons purchases is money well spent as it helps feed US families and support US jobs

The Military Industrial Complex is always a net loss for an economy.

Are these your new buzz words when you have no intelligent adult reply to posts.


But in matters of safety and defnce it is worth more than gold to a nation under constant terrorist attack

These are your old buzz words when you have no intelligent adult reply to posts.

How so when this is the first time I have used them, plagarism shows that you have no ability to formulate a reply and just want your voice to be heard