Recipes, Not Rockets: Cookbook Offers New Lens On Gaza

[irosie91]

On my mother's side, my grandmother was Pennsylvania Dutch and my grandfather was born in Germany so my diet was considerably different.

It sure was good though.

OH then YOU know the taste of DILL It is an herb used extensively
in the cuisine of Germany----and grows very easily---not much used
in the middle east-----not entirely absent ----but ----simply not much

My image of GERMAN COOKERY involves a neighbor who
survived your pal ADOLF-----
sitting on her front steps cutting up her homegrown dill with a pair
of sissors. She did not have much of a garden----but ALWAYS
grew that DILL It's those little green ---specks----not like
leaves-----it looks like cut chives but thinner----floating around
in the cucumber vinagrette. Some people put it in soup---
even lentil soup and chicken soup------also useful for cheese
and fish. ----and all pickled stuff

 

[P F Tinmore]

This is not a thread about terrorism or propaganda. Any further attempts at derailment will be removed. If you can't discuss the topic, start a new thread and stop trashing this one.

OK, since we're on the topic of food, how about this: Palestinian food...and music, dress, language, etc. is very much the same as all 22 Arab countries. Can I post topics of Israeli culture?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDVCT2gCgYg]42 b Sleepless Gaza Jerusalem .divx - YouTube[/ame]

Indeed.

 

[syrenn]

When you think about the Gaza Strip, do you think "organic farming"? How about "family dairy"? Would you expect California pistachios to flavor made-in-Gaza baklava? Have you heard that Hamas has a 10-year plan to develop sustainable local agriculture?

A new cookbook, The Gaza Kitchen, weaves little-known stories of Gaza food and farming among Palestinian home-cooking recipes. It highlights flavors particular to Gaza — both the crowded, skinny, famous strip of land pinned between Egypt, Israel and the Mediterranean, and the more extensive, southeastern Gaza District of historic Palestine that existed before the first major Arab-Israeli war in 1948.

NPR.org » Recipes, Not Rockets: Cookbook Offers New Lens On Gaza

the link does not work.

 

[toastman]

its nice to finally see a Palestinian related thread that doesnt bash Israel

 

[irosie91]

its nice to finally see a Palestinian related thread that doesnt bash Israel

you are missing the subtleties----the subliminal message is very much like that
which sherri likes to convey and which has been around for MANY MANY
decades-----in the ARABIST CAUSE ------hint (something like ---
jesus spoke arabic-------well----isa clearly did ----but Jesus did not)
did you see the video? the cuisine discussion was so full of errors--
and outright lies-----that it was comical

 

[Coyote]

This is not a thread about terrorism or propaganda. Any further attempts at derailment will be removed. If you can't discuss the topic, start a new thread and stop trashing this one.

OK, since we're on the topic of food, how about this: Palestinian food...and music, dress, language, etc. is very much the same as all 22 Arab countries. Can I post topics of Israeli culture?

It actually isn't - there are national and regional differences, just like, for example - differences in cuisine in the various regions of france or the US or between neighboring countries in Europe. I think people are so over-eager to portray all Arab speaking peoples as the same (perhaps in order to de-legitimize Palestinians?) they don't want to see any differences.

Of course you can post topics of Israeli culture - Lipush has been doing so for some time. It would be nice if people would be respectful enough to keep those types of threads clean

 

[Coyote]

When you think about the Gaza Strip, do you think "organic farming"? How about "family dairy"? Would you expect California pistachios to flavor made-in-Gaza baklava? Have you heard that Hamas has a 10-year plan to develop sustainable local agriculture?

A new cookbook, The Gaza Kitchen, weaves little-known stories of Gaza food and farming among Palestinian home-cooking recipes. It highlights flavors particular to Gaza — both the crowded, skinny, famous strip of land pinned between Egypt, Israel and the Mediterranean, and the more extensive, southeastern Gaza District of historic Palestine that existed before the first major Arab-Israeli war in 1948.

NPR.org » Recipes, Not Rockets: Cookbook Offers New Lens On Gaza

the link does not work.

Try this one: Recipes, Not Rockets: Cookbook Offers New Lens On Gaza : The Salt : NPR

 

[Coyote]

its nice to finally see a Palestinian related thread that doesnt bash Israel

you are missing the subtleties----the subliminal message is very much like that
which sherri likes to convey and which has been around for MANY MANY
decades-----in the ARABIST CAUSE ------hint (something like ---
jesus spoke arabic-------well----isa clearly did ----but Jesus did not)
did you see the video? the cuisine discussion was so full of errors--
and outright lies-----that it was comical

No, I am not missing the subtleties, I'm choosing to respond to this thread in the spirit it was posted and to treat the Palestinians as a distinct regional culture with local specialties.

Do you mean the video here? Recipes, Not Rockets: Cookbook Offers New Lens On Gaza : The Salt : NPR

 

[syrenn]

its nice to finally see a Palestinian related thread that doesnt bash Israel

you are missing the subtleties----the subliminal message is very much like that
which sherri likes to convey and which has been around for MANY MANY
decades-----in the ARABIST CAUSE ------hint (something like ---
jesus spoke arabic-------well----isa clearly did ----but Jesus did not)
did you see the video? the cuisine discussion was so full of errors--
and outright lies-----that it was comical

i watched the video because i enjoy learning about other cultures through food. i agree, it is very subtle propaganda. A 12:30 clip...was 2 minutes of how to prepare a salad... and the rest was propaganda.

I would have wished for a cookbook (and veido) that was less propaganda and more food of the region.

 

[High_Gravity]

When you think about the Gaza Strip, do you think "organic farming"? How about "family dairy"? Would you expect California pistachios to flavor made-in-Gaza baklava? Have you heard that Hamas has a 10-year plan to develop sustainable local agriculture?

A new cookbook, The Gaza Kitchen, weaves little-known stories of Gaza food and farming among Palestinian home-cooking recipes. It highlights flavors particular to Gaza — both the crowded, skinny, famous strip of land pinned between Egypt, Israel and the Mediterranean, and the more extensive, southeastern Gaza District of historic Palestine that existed before the first major Arab-Israeli war in 1948.

NPR.org » Recipes, Not Rockets: Cookbook Offers New Lens On Gaza

Now we're talking, bring on the shawarmas and kababs and put down the IED's and Rockets!

 

[irosie91]

its nice to finally see a Palestinian related thread that doesnt bash Israel

you are missing the subtleties----the subliminal message is very much like that
which sherri likes to convey and which has been around for MANY MANY
decades-----in the ARABIST CAUSE ------hint (something like ---
jesus spoke arabic-------well----isa clearly did ----but Jesus did not)
did you see the video? the cuisine discussion was so full of errors--
and outright lies-----that it was comical

No, I am not missing the subtleties, I'm choosing to respond to this thread in the spirit it was posted and to treat the Palestinians as a distinct regional culture with local specialties.

Do you mean the video here? Recipes, Not Rockets: Cookbook Offers New Lens On Gaza : The Salt : NPR

I was responding to toast, Coyote. Your viewpoint is admirable---it is
not consistent with the INTENTION of the people who made the video.
Intention is very very very important---including the intention of those
people who suddenly decided to call themselves "palestinians" sometime
in the 1960s I do agree that those people who suddenly decided to call
themselves "palestinians" in the 1960s constitute a regional group and
have they have a culture and a cuisine.
In the USA I grew up believing that the IRISH invented corned beef
and it is IRELAND's national food. I still consider CORNED BEEF AND
CABBAGE to be the holiday fare
of SAINT PATRICK's day which is an aspect of the CULTURE of
the person of Irish background in the USA. I figured out that
SAINT PATRICK DID NOT INVENT IT ----just as I figured out that
despite the claim of Doctor Muhummad T. Mehdi----"arrabs"
did not invent pita.
Cuisine tied to NATIONALIST HISTORIC REVISIONISM
claims is nothing new----I learned
all about the "FACT" that dhal and Chapaatis was invented
by the MUSLIMS OF THE MOGHUL EMPIRE-----from a muslim surgeon
from New Dehli. He even took credit for SHISH KEBAB-----he seemed
to think SHAH JAHAN invented the stuff along with the concept of
ZERO (the shish kebab claim was supposed to be a knock
on vegetarian hindus)

for that matter----the MACCABEES did not eat potato
pancakes (called 'latkes' by my fellow ashkenazim) Dill is
native to nothern europe-----I doubt that the palestinian arabic
speaking Isa ever tasted the stuff but some people do add
it to those "latkes" ----its terrific with the sour cream

 

[syrenn]

its nice to finally see a Palestinian related thread that doesnt bash Israel

you are missing the subtleties----the subliminal message is very much like that
which sherri likes to convey and which has been around for MANY MANY
decades-----in the ARABIST CAUSE ------hint (something like ---
jesus spoke arabic-------well----isa clearly did ----but Jesus did not)
did you see the video? the cuisine discussion was so full of errors--
and outright lies-----that it was comical

No, I am not missing the subtleties, I'm choosing to respond to this thread in the spirit it was posted and to treat the Palestinians as a distinct regional culture with local specialties.

Do you mean the video here? Recipes, Not Rockets: Cookbook Offers New Lens On Gaza : The Salt : NPR

You have to understand something here.... what he is posting is not just about foods of the region. He is posting a propaganda piece using food, and this book as the vehicle. If he wanted to post about food... he could have posted it in the food section.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/israe...book-offers-new-lens-on-gaza.html#post7104525



Here are a few examples of how to show foods of different cultures...without the propaganda.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8mJOZXJcWc]Kabli Pulao (Afghanistan) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dARcfG6aMdo]ISLAM & COOKING Maqlooba recipe P1/3 CHEF YUSUF ?????? ??????? HALAL Quran Sunnah - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NivGTbzKhQc]Iqbal Salah makes hummus the traditional Palestinian way - YouTube[/ame]

 

[member]

Interesting post Rosie - you have a varied and fascinating food repetoire! I actually love Indian cooking and especially their breads. I think almost every culture has some version of flat breads in their cuisine.

What I find interesting is how many things we assume are part of a traditional cuisine are actually imports from other regions. Many countries have incorporated New World foods as staples of their national cuisine such as corn and potatos. I bet Israel's cuisine is very rich given the diversity of it's heritage. Studying food is a good way to study immigration patterns and ancient trade.

Dill - love it! Garlic - a basic necessity!

"I actually love Indian cooking"


INDIAN food - stinks up building hallways...el-stinko....


"I bet Israel's cuisine is very rich given the diversity of it's heritage..."

aren't you a jew-hater ?

 

[High_Gravity]

Why don't the Palestinians just throw away the bombs and rockets and just get in their kitchens?

 

[irosie91]

Why don't the Palestinians just throw away the bombs and rockets and just get in their kitchens?

Excellent idea ------they actually sell ----pita making ovens ---for home use ---
in Israel-----a kind of tandoor knock-off ----I am afraid to use one of those
things-----they look dangerous----like as you are slapping the dough
on the wall of the oven----with one of those pillow things----the pillow
explodes -----sabotaged---- hubby says his mom did it BARE FISTED
(oy)

 

[Coyote]

I think you need to look at what's written as well as the video. Many cookbooks combine receipes with history, culture, even politics. It's looking at both the Palestinian cuisine and the impact of the embargo and fishing restrictions on it.

There is little doubt that the embargo effects ingredient availability and variety and it is well documented that the fishing restrictions have severely impacted them.

Either way the book sounds interesting

 

[Coyote]

Interesting post Rosie - you have a varied and fascinating food repetoire! I actually love Indian cooking and especially their breads. I think almost every culture has some version of flat breads in their cuisine.

What I find interesting is how many things we assume are part of a traditional cuisine are actually imports from other regions. Many countries have incorporated New World foods as staples of their national cuisine such as corn and potatos. I bet Israel's cuisine is very rich given the diversity of it's heritage. Studying food is a good way to study immigration patterns and ancient trade.

Dill - love it! Garlic - a basic necessity!

"I actually love Indian cooking"


INDIAN food - stinks up building hallways...el-stinko....


"I bet Israel's cuisine is very rich given the diversity of it's heritage..."

aren't you a jew-hater ?

Being critical of Israel's political policies does not make a person a Jew hater.

 

[irosie91]

Iqbal Salah makes hummus the traditional Palestinian way - YouTube

LOL hummus the "TRADITIONAL PALESTINIAN WAY"

sorry I missed it for so long----I was making hummus---the traditional
USA EAST COAST WAY-----I do it in a traditional food processor

chick peas ---mashed, boiled, roasted, ground up------have been
a staple of the entire mediterranean area for THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF YEARS------the Greeks and the Romans all but lived
on it------the ITALIANs did not have CORN POLENTA until -----
after the corn was imported from the americas. ------when their
spaghetti saw its first tomato sauce----before that it was HUMMUS
all day---and late into the evening


maybe sherri can tell us when the TRADITIONAL PALESTINIAN
HUMMUS came to be-------did HERODOTUS claim it to be
an ARABIAN FOOD?

Even Ashkenazi jews do chick peas-----but ---only RECENTLY
Hummus------chick peas is BUPKES

 

[irosie91]

I think you need to look at what's written as well as the video. Many cookbooks combine receipes with history, culture, even politics. It's looking at both the Palestinian cuisine and the impact of the embargo and fishing restrictions on it.

There is little doubt that the embargo effects ingredient availability and variety and it is well documented that the fishing restrictions have severely impacted them.

Either way the book sounds interesting

Lots of propagandaist books are interesting------and always have that element
of mendacity and ---and are slightly nauseating

someone should write a cookbook on the effects that the comprehensive
boycott of Israel by the ummah ---designed to induce a STARVATION SIEGE
had on Israeli cuisine------It is a far more fascinating subject---
a miracle of PUBLIC HEALTH INTERVENTION. What do you think Coyote?
Should such a book be just as disgustingly propagandaist as the piece of
crap cited in this thread? Just the issue of government subsidized bread
is an interesting phenomenon-----and how many people depended on it for
survival in those years----a very interesting factoid----they made the DARK '
bread cheaper to encourage its consumption (the stuff for which we pay
a premium in the USA)

 

[syrenn]

LOL hummus the "TRADITIONAL PALESTINIAN WAY"

sorry I missed it for so long----I was making hummus---the traditional
USA EAST COAST WAY-----I do it in a traditional food processor

chick peas ---mashed, boiled, roasted, ground up------have been
a staple of the entire mediterranean area for THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF YEARS------the Greeks and the Romans all but lived
on it------the ITALIANs did not have CORN POLENTA until -----
after the corn was imported from the americas. ------when their
spaghetti saw its first tomato sauce----before that it was HUMMUS
all day---and late into the evening


maybe sherri can tell us when the TRADITIONAL PALESTINIAN
HUMMUS came to be-------did HERODOTUS claim it to be
an ARABIAN FOOD?

Even Ashkenazi jews do chick peas-----but ---only RECENTLY
Hummus------chick peas is BUPKES

my point was that you can show cooking style and foods and ethnic cuisines ...without all of the propaganda.