Real Progressives Vote Jill Stein

[TheGreatGatsby]

You forgot to finish it. Here. let me do it for you:

----------------and run to hand the presidency over to Donald Trump.

If you want more poverty and low wages and insurance scams just to name a few, then vote Hillary. If you want to work towards real progressive causes, vote Stein. You won't vote Stein b/c you're not a progressive. You badmouthed Bernie b/c you're not a progressive.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

If you're gonna be with any "her" this election season, the choice is obvious:

Oh God no. No "revolutions" They always seem to turn out bad. See Russia, Cuba and China.

That's funny considering your thrill up the leg friends were talking about a revolution in 08. It's even more funny when you consider this country is what it is because of a revolution.

 

[Tehon]

gasbag is a birfer trump supporter who once hilariously resigned from the conservative club.

and he's telling us about "real" progressives?

You claim to be a Republican, but you troll like all the other usmb libtards.

But sticking to the tenets of the thread, Hillary is not a progressive. She's a corporatist who hops onto select progressive trends for her benefit. She is not out on front on progressive causes.

Hillary is a neoliberal, the same thing most republicans were before Trump came along.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

gasbag is a birfer trump supporter who once hilariously resigned from the conservative club.

and he's telling us about "real" progressives?

You claim to be a Republican, but you troll like all the other usmb libtards.

But sticking to the tenets of the thread, Hillary is not a progressive. She's a corporatist who hops onto select progressive trends for her benefit. She is not out on front on progressive causes.

Hillary is a neoliberal, the same thing most republicans were before Trump came along.

You can try to put uppity classifications on it all day long. If you think Trump supporters were akin to Hillary, you don't get it.

 

[Silhouette]

Ralph Nader syndrome again eh? Dems should know: a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump. Divide and conquer. If you don't have a good candidate, then halve the votes of your opposition. Works like a charm.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Ralph Nader syndrome again eh? Dems should know: a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump. Divide and conquer. If you don't have a good candidate, then halve the votes of your opposition. Works like a charm.

Voting for the best candidate (if you're a progressive) is a syndrome? And for a progressive, Hillary is not a good candidate, anyways. That's the point. She's a corporate shill.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Ralph Nader syndrome again eh? Dems should know: a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump. Divide and conquer. If you don't have a good candidate, then halve the votes of your opposition. Works like a charm.

Stein should run for Congress .. build a real party.

 

[Tehon]

gasbag is a birfer trump supporter who once hilariously resigned from the conservative club.

and he's telling us about "real" progressives?

You claim to be a Republican, but you troll like all the other usmb libtards.

But sticking to the tenets of the thread, Hillary is not a progressive. She's a corporatist who hops onto select progressive trends for her benefit. She is not out on front on progressive causes.

Hillary is a neoliberal, the same thing most republicans were before Trump came along.

You can try to put uppity classifications on it all day long. If you think Trump supporters were akin to Hillary, you don't get it.

Your lack of understanding explains why we have Trump in the running. Uppity classifications

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

gasbag is a birfer trump supporter who once hilariously resigned from the conservative club.

and he's telling us about "real" progressives?

You claim to be a Republican, but you troll like all the other usmb libtards.

But sticking to the tenets of the thread, Hillary is not a progressive. She's a corporatist who hops onto select progressive trends for her benefit. She is not out on front on progressive causes.

Hillary is a neoliberal, the same thing most republicans were before Trump came along.

You can try to put uppity classifications on it all day long. If you think Trump supporters were akin to Hillary, you don't get it.

Your lack of understanding explains why we have Trump in the running. Uppity classifications

The divide between Clinton/Trump is real. You basically asserted there is not difference.

 

[Tehon]

gasbag is a birfer trump supporter who once hilariously resigned from the conservative club.

and he's telling us about "real" progressives?

You claim to be a Republican, but you troll like all the other usmb libtards.

But sticking to the tenets of the thread, Hillary is not a progressive. She's a corporatist who hops onto select progressive trends for her benefit. She is not out on front on progressive causes.

Hillary is a neoliberal, the same thing most republicans were before Trump came along.

You can try to put uppity classifications on it all day long. If you think Trump supporters were akin to Hillary, you don't get it.

Your lack of understanding explains why we have Trump in the running. Uppity classifications

The divide between Clinton/Trump is real. You basically asserted there is not difference.

No I didn't. I said there is no difference between Hillary and what you call establishment republicans. What Trumpbots were in their previous life.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

You claim to be a Republican, but you troll like all the other usmb libtards.

But sticking to the tenets of the thread, Hillary is not a progressive. She's a corporatist who hops onto select progressive trends for her benefit. She is not out on front on progressive causes.

Hillary is a neoliberal, the same thing most republicans were before Trump came along.

You can try to put uppity classifications on it all day long. If you think Trump supporters were akin to Hillary, you don't get it.

Your lack of understanding explains why we have Trump in the running. Uppity classifications

The divide between Clinton/Trump is real. You basically asserted there is not difference.

No I didn't. I said there is no difference between Hillary and what you call establishment republicans. What Trumpbots were in their previous life.

Indeed, there is a dem/gop establishment as far as representation goes. But your claim wasn't about the establishment, it was about Trump supporters. No, the populous has rebelled against these system players once a viable outsider came along.

BTW, calling out "Trumpbots" just cos you're a Hillbot doesn't mean a damn thing.

 

[Tehon]

Hillary is a neoliberal, the same thing most republicans were before Trump came along.

You can try to put uppity classifications on it all day long. If you think Trump supporters were akin to Hillary, you don't get it.

Your lack of understanding explains why we have Trump in the running. Uppity classifications

The divide between Clinton/Trump is real. You basically asserted there is not difference.

No I didn't. I said there is no difference between Hillary and what you call establishment republicans. What Trumpbots were in their previous life.

Indeed, there is a dem/gop establishment as far as representation goes. But your claim wasn't about the establishment, it was about Trump supporters. No, the populous has rebelled against these system players once a viable outsider came along.

BTW, calling out "Trumpbots" just cos you're a Hillbot doesn't mean a damn thing.

My comment was about republicans before Trump came along. You know, those people who believed the free market was the holy land. Before Trump convinced you all that it was ok to embrace socialism and taught you to seek your safe space within fair markets. Why is that so difficult for you to grasp.

And I don't support Hillary, I support Stein. It's the reason for my interest in this thread.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

My comment was about republicans before Trump came along. You know, those people who believed the free market was the holy land. Before Trump convinced you all that it was ok to embrace socialism and taught you to seek your safe space within fair markets. Why is that so difficult for you to grasp.
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'Trump is about socialism'. And he's 'convincing us of it.' Look if you want to say Trump is going to put inhibitors into the market, then that's fine. But that's not socialism. What you speak of is world market regulations. And if Trump supporters were socialists, fringe supporters would be much more likely to go Stein than Johnson. I know that's not at all the case.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

And I don't support Hillary, I support Stein. It's the reason for my interest in this thread.

And I believe that is easily the wisest and only choice for real progressives. Personally, I feel it's a bit pie in the sky at this point (what the GP stands for). But it's not the adulterated crap that is Hillary Clinton.

 

[Tehon]

Your lack of understanding explains why we have Trump in the running. Uppity classifications

The divide between Clinton/Trump is real. You basically asserted there is not difference.

No I didn't. I said there is no difference between Hillary and what you call establishment republicans. What Trumpbots were in their previous life.

Indeed, there is a dem/gop establishment as far as representation goes. But your claim wasn't about the establishment, it was about Trump supporters. No, the populous has rebelled against these system players once a viable outsider came along.

BTW, calling out "Trumpbots" just cos you're a Hillbot doesn't mean a damn thing.

My comment was about republicans before Trump came along. You know, those people who believed the free market was the holy land. Before Trump convinced you all that it was ok to embrace socialism and taught you to seek your safe space within fair markets. Why is that so difficult for you to grasp.

And I don't support Hillary, I support Stein. It's the reason for my interest in this thread.

'Trump is about socialism'. And he's 'convincing us of it.' Look if you want to say Trump is going to put inhibitors into the market, then that's fine. But that's not socialism. What you speak of is world market regulations. And if Trump supporters were socialists, fringe supporters would be much more likely to go Stein than Johnson. I know that's not at all the case.

I was trying to use language you would understand. You people used to see socialism in everything that wasn't free market idealism before you adopted Bernie's platform.

 

[Tehon]

And I don't support Hillary, I support Stein. It's the reason for my interest in this thread.

And I believe that is easily the wisest and only choice for real progressives. Personally, I feel it's a bit pie in the sky at this point (what the GP stands for). But it's not the adulterated crap that is Hillary Clinton.

Yes, I can see how it is viewed as pie in the sky, but I have no other options at this point and I believe in those pie in the sky reforms.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I was trying to use language you would understand. You people used to see socialism in everything that wasn't free market idealism before you adopted Bernie's platform.

Trump has adopted Bernie's platform? No, that's the Dems. They basically adopted much of his platform to try and retain Bernie voters. The Bernie voters Trump attempts to get are the ones who believe the system is rigged. But they're not doing it through adopting some sort of socialist platform.

I'll give you this. You're not completely wrong. Repubs in large part have accepted socialism to a significant degree. They're not talking about banning Social Security and welfare and medicare. So, it's a mixed bag. But this election isn't really about these definitions you present. It's about taking back democracy, which has clearly been hijacked.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

And I don't support Hillary, I support Stein. It's the reason for my interest in this thread.

And I believe that is easily the wisest and only choice for real progressives. Personally, I feel it's a bit pie in the sky at this point (what the GP stands for). But it's not the adulterated crap that is Hillary Clinton.

Yes, I can see how it is viewed as pie in the sky, but I have no other options at this point and I believe in those pie in the sky reforms.

And I commend you for sticking to the change you want to see and not being swayed by someone you know will continue the corruption. As for my take on it, I don't like socialism b/c I'm a believer of earning your keep and not living in a big safety net world. But that's not to say I don't see benefits to it if properly implemented. The problem is that the socialistic rigors we now have are based on enriching power players. At least there's a case for the GP that their platform is unpolluted. If I were a progressive, I think there's only one choice: Jill Stein. And on a personal aside, she strikes me as a fine lady.

 

[Tehon]

I was trying to use language you would understand. You people used to see socialism in everything that wasn't free market idealism before you adopted Bernie's platform.

Trump has adopted Bernie's platform? No, that's the Dems. They basically adopted much of his platform to try and retain Bernie voters. The Bernie voters Trump attempts to get are the ones who believe the system is rigged. But they're not doing it through adopting some sort of socialist platform.

I'll give you this. You're not completely wrong. Repubs in large part have accepted socialism to a significant degree. They're not talking about banning Social Security and welfare and medicare. So, it's a mixed bag. But this election isn't really about these definitions you present. It's about taking back democracy, which has clearly been hijacked.

It's about taking back democracy, which has clearly been hijacked.

You are being played the fool. More like it's about handing Hillary the keys to the white house.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I was trying to use language you would understand. You people used to see socialism in everything that wasn't free market idealism before you adopted Bernie's platform.

Trump has adopted Bernie's platform? No, that's the Dems. They basically adopted much of his platform to try and retain Bernie voters. The Bernie voters Trump attempts to get are the ones who believe the system is rigged. But they're not doing it through adopting some sort of socialist platform.

I'll give you this. You're not completely wrong. Repubs in large part have accepted socialism to a significant degree. They're not talking about banning Social Security and welfare and medicare. So, it's a mixed bag. But this election isn't really about these definitions you present. It's about taking back democracy, which has clearly been hijacked.

It's about taking back democracy, which has clearly been hijacked.

You are being played the fool. More like it's about handing Hillary the keys to the white house.

That's a nice bottom line if that's how you see it. But you make no case for it; so, I would be delving into conjecture to even argue your conclusion. If you believe the conspiracy bla bla bla, then fine. But it's readily apparent, the corruption just in our voting system. That has been on display. That's no conspiracy. This has been the case on both sides. Maybe, you're cynical and think it won't be changed all the same; but my point is that Trump/Sanders supporters are being a voice to that end.