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[AntonToo]

Define mass murdering, then. I can't rule out that there were a bunch of bastards who robbed or killed civilians.

Edit. It was in a war zone, I meant.

Widespread murders based on Russian ethnicity in cities under Ukranian control, outside of warzone.

 

[ESay]

Widespread murders based on Russian ethnicity in cities under Ukranian control, outside of warzone.

No.

 

[Litwin]

As if Buryatia is disagree. They have pretty good money, either, and, of course,

ivan, you are lying again :

reality :

About Free Buryatia Foundation by Vladimir Budaev, one of FBF founders​

 

[Zavulon]

No.

What about SBU and "Ukrainian activists" kidnapping and murdering civilians for "separatism", and/or "justification of Russian aggression"? What about forced Ukrainisation? Do you know or heard about people who were arrested/disappeared/murdered ?

 

[Zavulon]

ivan, you are lying again :

reality :

About Free Buryatia Foundation by Vladimir Budaev, one of FBF founders​

No, you are lying. "Data" (actually piece of crap) from may, 2022?
The total population of Buryatia (with babies, women and oldmen), is lesser than 1 mln.

 

[ESay]

What about SBU and "Ukrainian activists" kidnapping and murdering civilians for "separatism", and/or "justification of Russian aggression"? What about forced Ukrainisation? Do you know or heard about people who were arrested/disappeared/murdered ?

There are laws in Ukraine that I would call oppressive. But they are not directed specifically on 'Russian ethnicity'. There isn't and never was ethnic cleansing or genocide of Russians in Ukraine. But there was genocide of Ukrainians at some point in the past. Quite strange, isn't it.

 

[Zavulon]

There are laws in Ukraine that I would call oppressive.

Yep. "We don't kill Russians, we kill separatists". "We don't opress Ukrainian Orthodox Church, because its not a church, but department of FSB". "We don't steal property of Russians, those are internal sanctions". It's stupid and hypocritical lie, and you know it.

But they are not directed specifically on 'Russian ethnicity'. There isn't and never was ethnic cleansing or genocide of Russians in Ukraine. But there was genocide of Ukrainians at some point in the past. Quite strange, isn't it.

And "Holodomor was specifically Soviet anti-Ukrainian genocide". It is also a lie, and you know it.

 

[ESay]

Yep. "We don't kill Russians, we kill separatists". "We don't opress Ukrainian Orthodox Church, because its not a church, but department of FSB". "We don't steal property of Russians, those are internal sanctions". It's stupid and hypocritical lie, and you know it

The question was about 'mass murders being based on Russian ethnicity'. Don't try to spin your arse.

And "Holodomor was specifically Soviet anti-Ukrainian genocide". It is also a lie, and you know it

Not specifically anti-Ukrainian. The famine also was in the Volga basin and Kazakhstan. 'Specifically' or not, the policy of Stalin led to deaths of millions of people.

 

[Zavulon]

The question was about 'mass murders being based on Russian ethnicity'. Don't try to spin your arse.

Typical hypocrisy. They start with those who fight for their rights and only then they send meekly crowd in death camps. Kievan regime is discriminative, abusive and anti-Russian. And the murders of "separatists" were massive enough (enough to provoke Russian response).
Russia is going to eliminate Kievan regime before they build death camps.

Not specifically anti-Ukrainian. The famine also was in the Volga basin and Kazakhstan. 'Specifically' or not, the policy of Stalin led to deaths of millions of people.

Ok. Yes, the policy of Stalin led to deaths of millions of people, but it saved hundreds millions of people. All those victims were justified by the result - the victory over European nazies and almost eighty years of peace.

 

[ESay]

Typical hypocrisy. They start with those who fight for their rights and only then they send meekly crowd in death camps. Kievan regime is discriminative, abusive and anti-Russian. And the murders of "separatists" were massive enough (enough to provoke Russian response).
Russia is going to eliminate Kievan regime before they build death camps

And? One abusive regime (in Moscow) is trying to replace another one (in Kiev). The both are worth each other.

Ok. Yes, the policy of Stalin led to deaths of millions of people, but it saved hundreds millions of people. All those victims were justified by the result - the victory over European nazies and almost eighty years of peace

Some people think that the victims of Donbas war were also justified. And it gave Ukraine the time to rebuild its army and prevent it from falling to the Putin regime. Accept this then, and stop bitching.

 

[Litwin]

 

[Zavulon]

And? One abusive regime (in Moscow) is trying to replace another one (in Kiev). The both are worth each other.

Of course no. Regime in Moscow is pro-Russian, and regime in Kiev is anti-Russian. That's the most important difference.

Some people think that the victims of Donbas war were also justified. And it gave Ukraine the time to rebuild its army and prevent it from falling to the Putin regime. Accept this then, and stop bitching.

I do accept it. A wolf, killing children of my family, definitely has his own reasons to do so. But it doesn't change the necesserity of my actions for protection of my people.

 

[Zavulon]

Both numbers (especially the first one) are simply not true. What is even more important - if there will be no enough volonteers, there always can be the second wave of mobilisation. +500K in few weeks its not really difficult.

 

[Litwin]

 

[ESay]

Of course no. Regime in Moscow is pro-Russian, and regime in Kiev is anti-Russian. That's the most important difference

Doesn't matter at all.

 

[Zavulon]

Doesn't matter at all.

May be, it doesn't matter for you, but it does matter for me. I prefer regime which defends me, not trying to kill me.

 

[ESay]

May be, it doesn't matter for you, but it does matter for me. I prefer regime which defends me, not trying to kill me.

Who cares what you prefer?

 

[Zavulon]

Who cares what you prefer?

Putin (his team) do. Actually, if Ukrainians (or Americans) want to keep something of "their" state, they should care too.

 

[ESay]

Putin (his team) do. Actually, if Ukrainians (or Americans) want to keep something of "their" state, they should care too.

One oppressive regime may change another one. Who cares.

 

[Zavulon]

One oppressive regime may change another one. Who cares.

Even from your point of view, there should be a difference between oppresive regime, sending you in trenches on more or less certain death, and oppresive regime which gives you an opportunity to fly away in Canada (or sending you in filtration camp, which you'll have all chances to pass through).