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[AntonToo]

Yes, I do. What was happening in Donbass was genocide.

If it was "genocide" against ethnic Russians then it would be happening all over Ukraine not somehow only in places where people were violently taking over and putting Russian flags on Ukranian gov buildings.

Ukranian government and millitary of course had every right and reason to fight back against lawless, violent separatists.

What you are posting is transparently stupid, counterfactual, Russian state propaganda. Get it dupe?

 

[Zavulon]

If it was "genocide" against ethnic Russians then it would be happening all over Ukraine not somehow only in palces where people were violently taking over and putting Russian flags on Ukranian gov buildings.

Really? Genocide is genocide, even if you starting commiting it where people are fighting for their natural rights and leave frightened, meekly part of them for future. "We'll hang them later" as Boris Filatov said.

 

[AntonToo]

Really? Genocide is genocide, even if you starting commiting it where people are fighting for their natural rights

Lets just test your mindless propanda for basic consistency:

When Chechens (who actually were indiginous people in the region) wanted to separate from Russia and have their own country, that was "people fighting for their natural rights" and Russia was committing "genocide" against ethnic Chechens.

Correct?

 

[Zavulon]

Lets just test your propganda for basic consistency.

When Chechya (who actually were indiginous people in the region) wanted to separate from Russia that was "people fighting for their natural rights" and Russia was committing "genocide" by bombing them.

Correct?

Yep. Some of the Western freaks were stupid enough to say that, but they didn't have guts to prove their point of view militarily. And, of course, it was before 911, which proved that the Russians were right, fighting against Islamic terrorism.

 

[AntonToo]

Yep. Some of the Western freaks were stupid enough to say that, but they didn't have guts to prove their point of view militarily. And, of course, it was before 911, which proved that the Russians were right, fighting against Islamic terrorism.

So your answer is NO - when Russia was carpet bombing Chechen controlled cities, along with women and children who happen to be there, that was definetly not genocide.

So tell me again - what made Ukranian millitary bombing violent separatists in Donbas who were taking over Ukranian cities a "genocide"? And in what way were people with guns violently taking over Ukranian cities not terrorists?

What exactly makes you think that it was specifcially about ethnicity as opposed to reasonable, lawful enforcement of Ukranine's territorial integrity that the rest of the world saw it as?

 

[Zavulon]

So your answer is NO - when Russia was carpet bombing Chechen controlled cities, along with women and children who happen to be there, that was definetly not genocide.

Yes, sure. It wasn't. And later Chechens agreed with the statement that it is much better to live in Russian Federation rather then die for independence of Ichkeria.

So tell me again - what made Ukranian millitary bombing violent separatists in Donbas who were taking over Ukranian cities a "genocide"?

They are killing Russians. Russians lives matter. Actually, only Russian lives matter.

And in what way were people with guns violently taking over Ukranian cities not terrorists?

A platoon or even a company simply can't take over a city without total and absolute support of local population, local police and local military.

What exactly makes you think that it was specifcially about ethnicity as opposed to straight forward, lawful enforcement of Ukranine's territorial integrity that the rest of the world saw it as?

Because the very first "legal" act of the Junta was cancelling the law about regional languages and, therefore - start of discrimination of Russian people. And, abused and discriminated people of Crimea, Donbass and other regions have the right to declare independence and fight to defend it.

And no, if the Junta was illegal (and it was) than all their acts, including start of military operation in Donbass were illegal. Say nothing about such trifle as Ukrainian constitution, which directly restricted the usage of AFU against Ukrainian people (including separatists).

 

[AntonToo]

Because the very first "legal" act of the Junta was cancelling the law about regional languages and, therefore - start of discrimination of Russian people.

Dummy, did you check the timeline on that?

Explosions in Donbass began in April 2014 and most of the pre-2022-invasion conflict casualties happened before 2017 law you are talking about.

Casualties in Donbass fell off dramatically after 2017 and you could count deaths on hands for 2019-2021.

 

[AntonToo]

They are killing Russians. Russians lives matter. Actually, only Russian lives matter.

Russians were killing separatist Chechens and you say that was well justified, Chechen lives do not matter.

And that bolded part? Thats your your true Russhist biggot essense showing.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Can you imagine being a Title Company in Donbas?

 

[Litwin]

As well as Russian Empire and Great Duchy of Moscow, and Duchy (edit for you : The Novgorod Republic) of Novgorod, and KYIvan Rus, and Lithuania, and Sweden and many other countries.
Actually, many Russians are Finns.

non of them attacks Finland today , ONLY your ulus DO SO ...

BREAKING:The Finnish Coast Guard has boarded the putin´s shadow fleet vessel ”Eagle S”. The vessel’s captain is the main suspect. MAGA&COMMIES , WHY ?

MAGA&COMMIES , WHY Finland is not afraid of escalation? Well done Finland! Free World stands with you! The Finnish Coast Guard has boarded the putin´s shadow fleet vessel ”Eagle S”. The vessel’s captain is the main suspect of yesterday’s attack on the undersea power cable Estlink 2...

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[Zavulon]

non of them attacks Finland today , ONLY your ulus DO SO ...

BREAKING:The Finnish Coast Guard has boarded the putin´s shadow fleet vessel ”Eagle S”. The vessel’s captain is the main suspect. MAGA&COMMIES , WHY ?

MAGA&COMMIES , WHY Finland is not afraid of escalation? Well done Finland! Free World stands with you! The Finnish Coast Guard has boarded the putin´s shadow fleet vessel ”Eagle S”. The vessel’s captain is the main suspect of yesterday’s attack on the undersea power cable Estlink 2...

www.usmessageboard.com

Today we are not attacking Finland, yet. But yes. They joined NATO, so, they will pay for it.

 

[Litwin]

Today we are not attacking Finland, yet. But yes. They joined NATO, so, they will pay for it.

Oxymoron - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

ps No, Ivan, you are gonna pay , more than you have paid in 1917 and 1991...

 

[Litwin]

Russians were killing separatist Chechens and you say that was well justified, Chechen lives do not matter.

And that bolded part? Thats your your true Russhist biggot essense showing.

 

[AntonToo]

No. NATO just hired Ukrainians to kill Russians.

If only you had any ******* clue. Suggestion that Ukranians were hired to kill Russians...by Russians invading Ukraine is straight insane.


NATO itself as an orgnization hasn't contributed much of ANYTHING to Ukraine, as it's not a member.

50+ Individual countries are sending material help to Ukraine, some of them are in NATO, others are not.

But only AFTER Russian full scale invasion was beat back around Kiev did Ukraine start to recieve serious millitary hardware. At the onset of the invasion all Ukrane had was soviet leftovers and a some handheld anti-tank RPGs.

 

[Litwin]

Tires!? So much needed on the front !

 

[Litwin]

…so Putin attacked Ukraine to kill his exports and boost American ones?

Seriously dumbass?

They love putin and his politics, why they're complaining then? And who is guilty? NATO/Soros of course!

 

[Zavulon]

If only you had any ******* clue. Suggestion that Ukranians were hired to kill Russians...by Russians invading Ukraine is straight insane.


NATO itself as an orgnization hasn't contributed much of ANYTHING to Ukraine, as it's not a member.

50+ Individual countries are sending material help to Ukraine, some of them are in NATO, others are not.

But only AFTER Russian full scale invasion was beat back around Kiev did Ukraine start to recieve serious millitary hardware. At the onset of the invasion all Ukrane had was soviet leftovers and a some handheld anti-tank RPGs.

Ok. NATO+ members raised and supported Ukrainian Nazies exactly to kill Russians. For starters - local Russians, but with the perspective to deploy NATO forces there (especially US ballistic missiles) and then - kill Russians in Russian Federation itself. As they call it "decolonisation of Russia".

NATO members are gambling their very existence not because they love Ukraine (they don't). Not because they need Ukrainian resources (thorough they are important, but right now Ukraine is a pure economic leak). They support Kievan regime because they use it against Russia. Europeans do what they always do - they are trying to invade Russia, murder all Russians and took Russian resources.

 

[Litwin]

 

[AntonToo]

Ok. NATO+ members raised and supported Ukrainian Nazies exactly to kill Russians

You sound mindfucked, there are no prominent Nazi politicians or Nazi political parties in Ukraine. Are there a few ultra-nationalist grunts in Ukraine? Sure, but like anywhere else hey have little to no power in Ukraine's governing.

Russia? Russia had some prominent Nazis. Like founder of Wagner:

And to repeat again, there was no bloodshed in Eastern Ukraine untill armed Russian citizens, with Russian government support, came to take over Ukranian cities. NONE.

So your story about how the conflict was caused by some sort of Nazis is of course a bunch of stupid, counterfactual propaganda.

 

[AntonToo]

NATO members are gambling their very existence

NATO countries gambling existance? I think whatever is left of your brain is gambling it's existance by vodka overindulgence.

Putin doesn't have much reguard for his people's lives but he is very pragmatic when it comes to preserving his own skin and regime. Nothing about his Ukranian misadventures is going to suddenly make him risk making Moscow a nuclear wasteland.