Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

[LA RAM FAN]

Dingbat

those are always your great comebacks when you get your ass handed to you on a platter by people like Dugdale I see.

Its probably best though that you dont try.You would just humiliate and embarrass yourself like Frank did everytime Dugdale handed his ass to him on a platter and owned him.

Sorry, still a dingbat.

I rest my case.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Funny how Reagan apologists think he was one of the greatest presidents ever.Still more proof how corrupt he really was.Carter,when he got into office,he took steps to clean up the corruption going on in the CIA that went on under Nixon and then Ford,Ford in his last year in office made Bush sr the director of the CIA.Whne carter got in,he got rid of Bush and replaced him with Stansfield Turner and Carter started cleaning up the CIA getting rid of covert wars.Whne Reagan got in,he fired turner and hired Bill Casey and things went back to normal with the CIA in their clandestine wars.they were too happy to see Carter go.


Whne Bush Sr was the dirctor of the CIA.He appointed legendary CIA covert operations specialist Theodore Shackley as associate director of operations of the CIA.Shakley believed that Turner whom Carter appointed and replaced Bush with,devasted the agency pushing out hundreds of covert officers.many being former associates of Shackleys.

 

[Friends]

Trajan won't answer questions, Dante. He ran himself off a thread last night because he wouldn't or couldn't. He just can't stand being laughed at.

Now to the point. RR raised taxes three times, had an unemployment rate almost 1% higher than Obama, raised the deficit 16 times, cozied up to the Soviets, lied about Iran-Contra, and was responsible for hundreds of officers and thousands of NCOs leaving the service because of I-C.

What is it so-called conservatives today do not get about Reagan's Presidency at the time he served?

Most Republican activists who voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984 remembered the presidential election of 1964. They remembered how the hopes raised by the campaign of Barry Goldwater were painfully disappointed. President Johnson was elected by a landslide. The Democrats won two to one majorities in both houses of Congress. The Supreme Court was already liberal and about to become more so.

When a popular movement grew against Johnson it was to the left of him, and motivated by opposition to the War in Vietnam.

It must have seemed to ideological reactionaries that the United States had gone crazy.

When Ronald Reagan, a man as reactionary as Barry Goldwater, was elected and reelected movement reactionaries must have felt that they had died and gone to Heaven.

For these people the 1960s and 1970 had been a terrible mistake. They viewed Reagan as the contra Moses who was about to lead the Children of Israel back to the fleshpots of Egypt.

Social reactionaries wanted to restore the sexual and religious ethos of the 1950s. Economic reactionaries longed for the repeal of the New Deal.

Reagan did not do that because he did not have the support. As far as the religious right was concerned he did not have the inclination. Nevertheless, movement Republicans like to pretend that it almost happened, and would have if the Dream had not been betrayed by traitors from within, and liberal elitists from without. They like to pretend that it can still happen.

 

[Dante]

Trajan won't answer questions, Dante. He ran himself off a thread last night because he wouldn't or couldn't. He just can't stand being laughed at.

Now to the point. RR raised taxes three times, had an unemployment rate almost 1% higher than Obama, raised the deficit 16 times, cozied up to the Soviets, lied about Iran-Contra, and was responsible for hundreds of officers and thousands of NCOs leaving the service because of I-C.

What is it so-called conservatives today do not get about Reagan's Presidency at the time he served?

Most Republican activists who voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984 remembered the presidential election of 1964. They remembered how the hopes raised by the campaign of Barry Goldwater were painfully disappointed. President Johnson was elected by a landslide. The Democrats won two to one majorities in both houses of Congress. The Supreme Court was already liberal and about to become more so.

When a popular movement grew against Johnson it was to the left of him, and motivated by opposition to the War in Vietnam.

It must have seemed to ideological reactionaries that the United States had gone crazy.

When Ronald Reagan, a man as reactionary as Barry Goldwater, was elected and reelected movement reactionaries must have felt that they had died and gone to Heaven.

For these people the 1960s and 1970 had been a terrible mistake. They viewed Reagan as the contra Moses who was about to lead the Children of Israel back to the fleshpots of Egypt.

Social reactionaries wanted to restore the sexual and religious ethos of the 1950s. Economic reactionaries longed for the repeal of the New Deal.

Reagan did not do that because he did not have the support. As far as the religious right was concerned he did not have the inclination. Nevertheless, movement Republicans like to pretend that it almost happened, and would have if the Dream had not been betrayed by traitors from within, and liberal elitists from without. They like to pretend that it can still happen.

Most Republican activists who voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984 were working overtime taking over the party and cobbling together a new right wing movement. They joined forces with NH Governor, Meldrim Thompson, Manchester
Union Leader Publisher, William Loeb, Senator Jesse Jackson, NCPAC, Paul Weyrich, the Conservative Caucus, Howard Phllips and others...

 

[LA RAM FAN]

this thread has to be brought back since Frank is trolling with his avatar telling his blatant lies bastard reagan was the last real president we had when he was no different than all the other puppet presidents we have had since JFK-the LAST real president we had.Frank and the the reagan apologists had their asses handed to them on a platter throughout this whole thread evading facts changing the subject everytime.hee hee.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You can't revise what I lived through and be factious with your comments.

Just read what was written at the time. Memory serves you poorly

The liberal media wrote many lies on Reagan those who had to live through Reagan era know better.

those who lived through the reagan era remember how he betrayed the middle and lower class familys.

 

[whitehall]

The short answer...the Clinton sexual predator administration. The pretty wife of one of the FBI most wanted fugitives flashed the Arkansas inbred Bubba and ....presto....Jon Rich was no longer a fugitive.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

this thread has to be brought back since Frank is trolling with his avatar telling his blatant lies bastard reagan was the last real president we had when he was no different than all the other puppet presidents we have had since JFK-the LAST real president we had.Frank and the the reagan apologists had their asses handed to them on a platter throughout this whole thread evading facts changing the subject everytime.hee hee.

Fuck off. I lost track of this thread because I have better things to do than correct every lie about Reagan.

Reagan cut taxes. Fact. The people who say Reagan raised taxes are just fucking morons

 

[Jroc]

this thread has to be brought back since Frank is trolling with his avatar telling his blatant lies bastard reagan was the last real president we had when he was no different than all the other puppet presidents we have had since JFK-the LAST real president we had.Frank and the the reagan apologists had their asses handed to them on a platter throughout this whole thread evading facts changing the subject everytime.hee hee.

Fuck off. I lost track of this thread because I have better things to do than correct every lie about Reagan.

Reagan cut taxes. Fact. The people who say Reagan raised taxes are just fucking morons

The Reagan haters are just that haters. Liberals revise history to soot their agenda...they haft to

 

[Jroc]

Just read what was written at the time. Memory serves you poorly

The liberal media wrote many lies on Reagan those who had to live through Reagan era know better.

those who lived through the reagan era remember how he betrayed the middle and lower class familys.

People actually moved up under Reagan unlike this pathetic poor excuse for a president we have now

 

[Jroc]

REAGAN’S ECONOMIC SUCCESS
Reagan conservative policies amounted to the most successful economic experiment in world history:
•20 million new jobs were created.
•Unemployment fell to 5.3% by 1989.
•The top income tax rate was cut from 70% to 28%.
•The Reagan Recovery took off once the tax rate cuts were fully phased in.
•Total federal spending declined to 21.2% of GDP in 1989 (even with the Reagan defense buildup, which won the Cold War.)
•Eliminated price controls on oil and natural gas. Production soared, and aided by a strong dollar the price of oil declined by more than 50%.
•Real per-capita disposable income increased by 18% from 1982 to 1989 (meaning the American standard of living increased by almost 20% in just 7 years.)
•The poverty rate declined every year from 1984 to 1989, dropping by one-sixth from its peak.
•The stock market more than tripled in value from 1980 to 1990 (a larger increase than in any previous decade.)
•The Reagan recovery started in official records in November 1982, and lasted 92 months without a recession until July 1990 (when the tax increases of the 1990 budget deal killed it.)
•During this 7-year recovery, the economy grew by almost one-third (equivalent of adding the entire economy of West Germany to the U.S. economy.)
•In 1984 alone real economic growth boomed by 6.8%, the highest in 50 years.
•The inflation from 1980 (in the Carter era) was reduced from 13.5% to 3.2% by 1983.
(The contractionary, tight-money policies needed to kill this inflation inexorably created the steep recession of 1981 to 1982, which is why Reagan did not suffer politically catastrophic blame for that recession.)
•The Reagan Recovery kicked off a historic 25-year economic boom (with short recessions in 1990 and 2001.)
•The period from 1982 to 2007 is the greatest period of wealth creation in the history of the planet. In 1980, the net worth–assets minus liabilities–of all U.S. households and business was $25 trillion in today’s dollars. By 2007, net worth was just shy of $57 trillion. Adjusting for inflation, more wealth was created in America in the 25-year boom than in the previous two hundred years.

Reaganomics Vs. Obamanomics: Facts And Figures - Forbes

 

[Lumpy 1]

The liberal media wrote many lies on Reagan those who had to live through Reagan era know better.

those who lived through the reagan era remember how he betrayed the middle and lower class familys.

People actually moved up under Reagan unlike this pathetic poor excuse for a president we have now

Yes indeed... I blame their parents..

 

[editec]

Reagan is the gift that keeps on giving.. His accomplishments annoy lefties to this day, 25 years after leaving office.

You have been tragically misinformed, lad.

Your country needs you to EDUCATE YOURSELF.!

Here's a good place to START learning some REAL ECONOMIC HISTORY about Reagan the DEFICIT SPENDING BIG GOVERNMENT ADVOCATE


The DEFORMATION OF CAPITALISM

When dissecting Washington politics and Wall Street deal-making Stockman naturally draws on his experience as the director of the Office of Management and Budget under Ronald Reagan and his many years as an investment banker and private equity investor, and in so doing he reflects on much of his own professional life with commendable candor.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Just read what was written at the time. Memory serves you poorly

The liberal media wrote many lies on Reagan those who had to live through Reagan era know better.

those who lived through the reagan era remember how he betrayed the middle and lower class familys.

Bullshit

 

[Dot Com]

come on Raygun fluffers. Raygun wrote the book on tripling the national debt & selling arms to terrists. My question is: who planted the fake narrative about how he was w/o fault (to put it mildly) I wouldn't expect for Frank to be a lemming but thats what he appears to be in this case

You people (conservatives) are going to have to go back further in time to find a repub President who has accomplishments (besides bankrupting another nation [USSR] a nanosecond before we bankrupted ourselves).

 

[Jroc]

come on Raygun fluffers. Raygun wrote the book on tripling the national debt & selling arms to terrists. My question is: who planted the fake narrative about how he was w/o fault (to put it mildly) I wouldn't expect for Frank to be a lemming but thats what he appears to be in this case

Yeah maybe Reagan should have made deals with the Soviet empire to keep 10s of millions under the thumb of the eastern block. You're an idiot, Trillions of dollars in New wealth was created as a result of Reagan's policies, as a result people moved up the income ladder. Future presidents benefited from the peace dividend after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Reagan cut government and could have cut a lot more if it where not for the libs in both parties

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Reagan is the gift that keeps on giving.. His accomplishments annoy lefties to this day, 25 years after leaving office.

You have been tragically misinformed, lad.

Your country needs you to EDUCATE YOURSELF.!

Here's a good place to START learning some REAL ECONOMIC HISTORY about Reagan the DEFICIT SPENDING BIG GOVERNMENT ADVOCATE


The DEFORMATION OF CAPITALISM

When dissecting Washington politics and Wall Street deal-making Stockman naturally draws on his experience as the director of the Office of Management and Budget under Ronald Reagan and his many years as an investment banker and private equity investor, and in so doing he reflects on much of his own professional life with commendable candor.

what else would you expect from someone with this user name meathead.thats pretty much what his brain is same as his feloow troll lover crusader frank.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The liberal media wrote many lies on Reagan those who had to live through Reagan era know better.

those who lived through the reagan era remember how he betrayed the middle and lower class familys.

People actually moved up under Reagan unlike this pathetic poor excuse for a president we have now

lies as always from the paid zionist shill.you zionist shills are so stupid you dont even try to hide it that you are a zionist shill that has penetrated this site going out of your way to advertise your support the atrocities of israel.

your as sloppy as the CIA is with their lies they tell the american people in their controlled media.

the truth about reagan.

FOR THE LEFT: Reagan's Betrayal of the Middle Class Comes to Full Fruition

How the GOP betrayed the White American Middle Class? | YAHOO THOM

 

[LA RAM FAN]

come on Raygun fluffers. Raygun wrote the book on tripling the national debt & selling arms to terrists. My question is: who planted the fake narrative about how he was w/o fault (to put it mildly) I wouldn't expect for Frank to be a lemming but thats what he appears to be in this case

You people (conservatives) are going to have to go back further in time to find a repub President who has accomplishments (besides bankrupting another nation [USSR] a nanosecond before we bankrupted ourselves).

those are pesky facts they are obviously ignorant about,.they were obviously not around back then during the reagan years.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

REAGAN’S ECONOMIC SUCCESS
Reagan conservative policies amounted to the most successful economic experiment in world history:
•20 million new jobs were created.
•Unemployment fell to 5.3% by 1989.
•The top income tax rate was cut from 70% to 28%.
•The Reagan Recovery took off once the tax rate cuts were fully phased in.
•Total federal spending declined to 21.2% of GDP in 1989 (even with the Reagan defense buildup, which won the Cold War.)
•Eliminated price controls on oil and natural gas. Production soared, and aided by a strong dollar the price of oil declined by more than 50%.
•Real per-capita disposable income increased by 18% from 1982 to 1989 (meaning the American standard of living increased by almost 20% in just 7 years.)
•The poverty rate declined every year from 1984 to 1989, dropping by one-sixth from its peak.
•The stock market more than tripled in value from 1980 to 1990 (a larger increase than in any previous decade.)
•The Reagan recovery started in official records in November 1982, and lasted 92 months without a recession until July 1990 (when the tax increases of the 1990 budget deal killed it.)
•During this 7-year recovery, the economy grew by almost one-third (equivalent of adding the entire economy of West Germany to the U.S. economy.)
•In 1984 alone real economic growth boomed by 6.8%, the highest in 50 years.
•The inflation from 1980 (in the Carter era) was reduced from 13.5% to 3.2% by 1983.
(The contractionary, tight-money policies needed to kill this inflation inexorably created the steep recession of 1981 to 1982, which is why Reagan did not suffer politically catastrophic blame for that recession.)
•The Reagan Recovery kicked off a historic 25-year economic boom (with short recessions in 1990 and 2001.)
•The period from 1982 to 2007 is the greatest period of wealth creation in the history of the planet. In 1980, the net worth–assets minus liabilities–of all U.S. households and business was $25 trillion in today’s dollars. By 2007, net worth was just shy of $57 trillion. Adjusting for inflation, more wealth was created in America in the 25-year boom than in the previous two hundred years.

Reaganomics Vs. Obamanomics: Facts And Figures - Forbes

more lies from the zionist shill.