Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

[LA RAM FAN]

Sure lets talk about history,and a dead guy,lots more fun than talking about the present,and future.

DC is broken from the top down,and people like the OP love to piss for distance over opinions,priceless!

amazing how the reaganuts retreat to talking about the current clown in office we have when the truth about reagans corruption emerges.

It never occurs to them that this is the HISTORY section or the same posters that talk about reagans corruption talk about how Obama is corrupt as well in other sections.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The fact is, you guys have made up a mythical Reagan

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The fact that Reagan still wraps liberals around the axle is all the proof you need to know how great he was. It won't deflect anything away from the failed Obama administration.

The more time they spend bashing Reagan, the less time they have polishing their favorite turd. But I can understand why the later is tiresome.

So history question. How many convicted felons in the Reagan administration, and how many convicted felons in the Obama administration?

Lots of the Reagan gang were indicted on felonies but ended up with pleading down to misdemeanors. Example: Sec. of Interior James Watt, indicted on 41 felony counts related to collecting half million bucks in kick-backs. Pleaded down to a single misdemeanor for a 5 years probation sentence. Also, lots of pardons handed out. If you ask for indictments, convictions and pardons you can get to over 3 dozen crooks and crimminals in the Reagan adminstration, which is the all time historical record that gives the Reagan administration the most corrupt in American history title.

thats why they wont read this link i have posted HUNDREDS of times that Im sure YOU have read since it talks about those pesky little facts.

http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/Reagan.html

Thats why they wont read Bunchs book either since it exposes members that served in congress back then who later in the 90's,told media sources they wanted to impeach reagan back then for his treason he committed with Iran Contra but they did not go ahead with it because they didnt want to put americans through another watergate.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Democrats believe that Eastern Europeans miss living under Soviet Communism.

Some of them do, given the fact that some countries have voted the Communists or the parties that succeeded them back into power.

Why do you think Putin is so popular in Russia?

Because he ran the KGB and rigged election like he was a Chicago Alderman

 

[LA RAM FAN]

here we go.proof the ecomony was worse off under Reagan than it was under Carter.

FOR THE LEFT: Reagan's Betrayal of the Middle Class Comes to Full Fruition

How the GOP betrayed the White American Middle Class? | YAHOO THOM

Consortiumnews.com

Robert L. Borosage: The Reagan Ruins

BeggarsCanBeChoosers.com: How Ronald Reagan Unwittingly Laid the Groundwork for the Death of Capitalism

Ronald Reagan's War on Labor (Labor) by Dick Meister

MYTH
Carter ruined the economy; Reagan saved it

friends post here post # 523 nails it as well.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/histo...onservatives-revisonist-history-101-a-35.html

there it is in black and white.the proof in the pudding that the economy was far worse under reagan than it was on Carter.Carter did not betray the lower and middle class familys like Reagan did.

oh and for all the reagnuts on here too lazy to read through those links,here is a video with ACTUAL NEWS SOURCES back from the 1980's from the LAMESTREAM MEDIA you guys worship as the truth,even THEY reported back then in the 80's how Reagans policys betrayed the lower and middle class familys. dont know why i bother posting this video since none of you reaganuts will watch it the way your so much in denial only seeing what you WANT to see.

thats why none of you will read Bunchs book TEARING DOWN THE MYTH since he uses actual media sources from the 80's in his book. instead,all you trolls do,is attack the messenger-me and call me names knowing your cornered and have lost the debate.

here is that video FROM THE 80'S.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKi04yijjS4]RIG-anomics: GOP Ignores Ronald Reagan's Trickle-Down Economics Failures - YouTube[/ame]

Oh and another fact you trolls ignored previously,Carter actually tried to do something about the corrupt CIA that runs this country now. what did reagan do? He fired carters appointee Stansfield Turner who cleaned up and reformed the CIA and brought in william casey and who got the CIA back to their evil ways again with covert operations that are still going on now.

i knew this would be a waste of time posting it.the reagan worshippers ran way with their tail between their legs just like I said they would when confronted with this video. and as always.like clockwork of course,have no comments how reagan let the CIA go back to their corrupt ways again "which is why the world is in the mess it is today because of them." how he got them back to their corrupt ways again firing carters appointee stansfiled turner who cleaned up the CIA and reformed them,then Reagan fires him bringing in willaim casey,who got them back to their covert operations and dirty secret wars again.never fails,they always turn tail and run everytime and just fire back with childish insults.

The reaganut worshippers wont watch this video of course just like they wont watch the one above since it exposes what a traiter ronnie was to the american people with The october surprise delaying the release of the hostages so he could look like a hero and win the election from carter. i guess its not good enough either for them that Barbara Honneger, an aide for the Reagan white house,who wrote a book about it all called THE OCTOBER SURPRISE coming acrosss documents of all of it,and is seen in the front cover photo with Bush and reagan,she of course isnt credible either.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So history question. How many convicted felons in the Reagan administration, and how many convicted felons in the Obama administration?

Lots of the Reagan gang were indicted on felonies but ended up with pleading down to misdemeanors. Example: Sec. of Interior James Watt, indicted on 41 felony counts related to collecting half million bucks in kick-backs. Pleaded down to a single misdemeanor for a 5 years probation sentence. Also, lots of pardons handed out. If you ask for indictments, convictions and pardons you can get to over 3 dozen crooks and crimminals in the Reagan adminstration, which is the all time historical record that gives the Reagan administration the most corrupt in American history title.

thats why they wont read this link i have posted HUNDREDS of times that Im sure YOU have read since it talks about those pesky little facts.

Reagan's was the most corrupt administration in the lifetime of most Americans

Thats why they wont read Bunchs book either since it exposes members that served in congress back then who later in the 90's,told media sources they wanted to impeach reagan back then for his treason he committed with Iran Contra but they did not go ahead with it because they didnt want to put americans through another watergate.

Liberals like Christ?

LOL

That's where I should get my information about Reagan.

Wow

Just ******* Wow!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh right.

Bush took that SR-71 to meet with Iran even though the CIA staged the Hostage taking in the first place and all Bush had to do was place a call to the Iran CIA Station Chief and Say "Let them go"

 

[JoeB131]

Democrats believe that Eastern Europeans miss living under Soviet Communism.

Some of them do, given the fact that some countries have voted the Communists or the parties that succeeded them back into power.

Why do you think Putin is so popular in Russia?

Because he ran the KGB and rigged election like he was a Chicago Alderman

Right. Because you find it impossible to believe that people you don't like win fair elections.

But what Bush did in 2000 was totally acceptable.

 

[Iceweasel]

So history question. How many convicted felons in the Reagan administration, and how many convicted felons in the Obama administration?

We don't know yet.

Lots of the Reagan gang were indicted on felonies but ended up with pleading down to misdemeanors.

Indictments are not convictions and pleading down may not mean guilt either.

In the last rating of presidents by historians, Reagan was rated 18th best out of 43 presidents.

What's your source? Mother Earth Jones? Wikipedia? You can pick historians to come up with any figures you want. However...

Lincoln Resumes Position as Americans' Top-Rated President
According to a Feb. 9-11, 2007, Gallup Poll, Lincoln is back at No. 1 with Americans. Still, he holds this position based on responses from a fairly small percentage of the public. Eighteen percent of Americans today name Lincoln as the greatest U.S. president. He is closely followed by Reagan, with 16%, and John F. Kennedy, with 14%. Bill Clinton (13%) and Franklin D. Roosevelt (9%) round out the top five.

 

[Dot Com]

the raygun myth must be busted. (It already has but the raygun fluffers just don't want to admit it )
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Tear-Down-This-Myth-Right-Wing/dp/1416597638/ref=tmm_pap_title_0]Tear Down This Myth: The Right-Wing Distortion of the Reagan Legacy: Will Bunch: 9781416597636: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]

It's no accident that today when you see a chart of income inequality in America, it starts in 1980, the year that Reagan was elected to his first term. His steep reduction in top income rates sparked the huge gaps between CEO pay and what the average worker makes, his crushing of the air traffic controllers union launched an era of declining fortunes for blue-collar workers, his deregulation of the savings and loan industry was a multi-billion-dollar boondoggle, and his similar laizzez-faire attitude toward Wall Street inspired some great movies but marked the dawn of an era of insider trading and swindles that went largely unchecked until it finally took America to the brink in 2008.

 

[bedowin62]

the raygun myth must be busted. (It already has but the raygun fluffers just don't want to admit it )
Tear Down This Myth: The Right-Wing Distortion of the Reagan Legacy: Will Bunch: 9781416597636: Amazon.com: Books

It's no accident that today when you see a chart of income inequality in America, it starts in 1980, the year that Reagan was elected to his first term. His steep reduction in top income rates sparked the huge gaps between CEO pay and what the average worker makes, his crushing of the air traffic controllers union launched an era of declining fortunes for blue-collar workers, his deregulation of the savings and loan industry was a multi-billion-dollar boondoggle, and his similar laizzez-faire attitude toward Wall Street inspired some great movies but marked the dawn of an era of insider trading and swindles that went largely unchecked until it finally took America to the brink in 2008.

the Reagan years were better than the obama years; after Reagan turned around the RECESSION HE INHERITED FROM CARTER
libs are losers who lie to themselves

GDP at this point in Reagan's second term was 7% or higher

ur a joke

 

[bedowin62]

When President Reagan entered office in 1981, he faced actually much worse economic problems than President Obama faced in 2009. Three worsening recessions starting in 1969 were about to culminate in the worst of all in 1981-1982, with unemployment soaring into double digits at a peak of 10.8%. At the same time America suffered roaring double-digit inflation, with the CPI registering at 11.3% in 1979 and 13.5% in 1980 (25% in two years). The Washington establishment at the time argued that this inflation was now endemic to the American economy, and could not be stopped, at least not without a calamitous economic collapse.


All of the above was accompanied by double -igit interest rates, with the prime rate peaking at 21.5% in 1980. The poverty rate started increasing in 1978, eventually climbing by an astounding 33%, from 11.4% to 15.2%. A fall in real median family income that began in 1978 snowballed to a decline of almost 10% by 1982. In addition, from 1968 to 1982, the Dow Jones industrial average lost 70% of its real value, reflecting an overall collapse of stocks.

 

[Iceweasel]

it's no accident that today when you see a chart of income inequality in america, it starts in 1980

lol.

 

[Iceweasel]

When President Reagan entered office in 1981, he faced actually much worse economic problems than President Obama faced in 2009. Three worsening recessions starting in 1969 were about to culminate in the worst of all in 1981-1982, with unemployment soaring into double digits at a peak of 10.8%. At the same time America suffered roaring double-digit inflation, with the CPI registering at 11.3% in 1979 and 13.5% in 1980 (25% in two years). The Washington establishment at the time argued that this inflation was now endemic to the American economy, and could not be stopped, at least not without a calamitous economic collapse.

And many of us remember those days, Carter's Misery Index and double digit inflation, etc. but are supposed to believe modern day net-tards instead.

 

[JoeB131]

When President Reagan entered office in 1981, he faced actually much worse economic problems than President Obama faced in 2009. Three worsening recessions starting in 1969 were about to culminate in the worst of all in 1981-1982, with unemployment soaring into double digits at a peak of 10.8%. At the same time America suffered roaring double-digit inflation, with the CPI registering at 11.3% in 1979 and 13.5% in 1980 (25% in two years). The Washington establishment at the time argued that this inflation was now endemic to the American economy, and could not be stopped, at least not without a calamitous economic collapse.

And many of us remember those days, Carter's Misery Index and double digit inflation, etc. but are supposed to believe modern day net-tards instead.

Reagan beat inflation by causing a recession and crushing the middle class.

It was a case of the "cure" being worse than the disease, really.

 

[Papageorgio]

When President Reagan entered office in 1981, he faced actually much worse economic problems than President Obama faced in 2009. Three worsening recessions starting in 1969 were about to culminate in the worst of all in 1981-1982, with unemployment soaring into double digits at a peak of 10.8%. At the same time America suffered roaring double-digit inflation, with the CPI registering at 11.3% in 1979 and 13.5% in 1980 (25% in two years). The Washington establishment at the time argued that this inflation was now endemic to the American economy, and could not be stopped, at least not without a calamitous economic collapse.

And many of us remember those days, Carter's Misery Index and double digit inflation, etc. but are supposed to believe modern day net-tards instead.

Reagan beat inflation by causing a recession and crushing the middle class.

It was a case of the "cure" being worse than the disease, really.

He was elected during a recession, how did he create one, and which one?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

When President Reagan entered office in 1981, he faced actually much worse economic problems than President Obama faced in 2009. Three worsening recessions starting in 1969 were about to culminate in the worst of all in 1981-1982, with unemployment soaring into double digits at a peak of 10.8%. At the same time America suffered roaring double-digit inflation, with the CPI registering at 11.3% in 1979 and 13.5% in 1980 (25% in two years). The Washington establishment at the time argued that this inflation was now endemic to the American economy, and could not be stopped, at least not without a calamitous economic collapse.

And many of us remember those days, Carter's Misery Index and double digit inflation, etc. but are supposed to believe modern day net-tards instead.

Reagan beat inflation by causing a recession and crushing the middle class.

It was a case of the "cure" being worse than the disease, really.

Is that when you and RDean were Republicans?

 

[Toro]

When President Reagan entered office in 1981, he faced actually much worse economic problems than President Obama faced in 2009. Three worsening recessions starting in 1969 were about to culminate in the worst of all in 1981-1982, with unemployment soaring into double digits at a peak of 10.8%. At the same time America suffered roaring double-digit inflation, with the CPI registering at 11.3% in 1979 and 13.5% in 1980 (25% in two years). The Washington establishment at the time argued that this inflation was now endemic to the American economy, and could not be stopped, at least not without a calamitous economic collapse.

And many of us remember those days, Carter's Misery Index and double digit inflation, etc. but are supposed to believe modern day net-tards instead.

Reagan beat inflation by causing a recession and crushing the middle class.

It was a case of the "cure" being worse than the disease, really.

Reagan did not cause a recession.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

the raygun myth must be busted. (It already has but the raygun fluffers just don't want to admit it )
Tear Down This Myth: The Right-Wing Distortion of the Reagan Legacy: Will Bunch: 9781416597636: Amazon.com: Books

It's no accident that today when you see a chart of income inequality in America, it starts in 1980, the year that Reagan was elected to his first term. His steep reduction in top income rates sparked the huge gaps between CEO pay and what the average worker makes, his crushing of the air traffic controllers union launched an era of declining fortunes for blue-collar workers, his deregulation of the savings and loan industry was a multi-billion-dollar boondoggle, and his similar laizzez-faire attitude toward Wall Street inspired some great movies but marked the dawn of an era of insider trading and swindles that went largely unchecked until it finally took America to the brink in 2008.

they cover their eyes everytime you post that link.It does no good.I have posted that link here myself HUNDREDS of times with no comment about it except pitiful one liners.

they wont read that book to that link of yours even though he uses actual sources from the 1980's,because they know as well as you and i do,that they only see what they WANT to see.

they wont read links,they wont watch videos,they wont read books,you would have better luck talking to a brick wall then you would with these pitiful lying trolls.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Noam Chomsky-Whom I am not a fan of at all matter of fact,even HE comes forth and tells the truth about Reagan here in this video-that they wont watch since he calls him out for the traiter he is telling the TRUTH how he betrayed the middle class familys.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8g_XE4oZqU]Noam Chomsky on Reagan's Distorted Legacy, Wisconsin Protests & Obama's Activist Crackdown. 2 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

oh and he is not being biased here either because in this video below,he attacks Obama as well for doing the same thing Reagan did.I thought I would bring that fact up since the reaganuts here always retreat to Obama and his betrayal of america anytime people come on here and trash fellow traiter reagan.