Reagan & Conservatives -- Revisonist History 101

[Dante]

[MENTION=34777]Meathead[/MENTION]

No, your dumbing down is apparent and not only with your tenuous grasp of history. To wit:

For decades it was called Washington National Airport; it was renamed in 1998 to honor former U.S. President Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an example of dumbing down. You can't deny it, too obvious. Sorry.

A genuine dumb ass is one that goes on the attack and calls others dumb armed with nothing more than wikipedia for a source. National Airport was always National Airport until 1987 when the Washington Metropolitan Airports Authority was established.
Anyhow, here is a more reliable source:

History

What is so difficult with Washington National becoming Ronald Reagan Washington National? WTF is it you don't understand?

Even being dumbed down by elementary public education is no excuse at this level of simplicity.

Oh the irony! The irony.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

...and strategic defense initiative worked.

NOt really.

Unless by working, you mean making billions for defense contractors for a system that didn't work.

Heck, they couldn't even knock down slow moving SCUDs in Gulf War I.

yep it defenetely worked for ronnie in that aspect serving the defense contracters.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Dad you never answered my question here which is have you seen this two hour video THE OBAMA DECEPTION? you should watch it because there is one part in there that refers to JFK and explains in detail with proof contrary to what the reaganut worshippers believe,that JFK was our last GREAT president we had.

JFK was our last GREAT president we had but carter was our last GOOD president we had.we were actually taking positive steps under carters leadership when he was in office on getting back to being a free country again and having civil libertys as well honored.

That all changed with Reagan and with every president since him,they all turned it up a notch what he got started.he was the original grandfather of all these presidents since him taking us down that path towards a facist dictatership.Like I said before,thats just another example of how when a good president that comes along,he doesnt get to serve in office very long.

Dad since I obviously cant get an answer from you on this video,I'm going to assume you are a fan of Obama? which I fail to understand why since he is a facist dictater who has copied everything that reagan the grandfather of it all got started.

We have 2 choices when voting for Prez, bad and MUCH worse. I tend to vote bad

Do I wish he was a REAL liberal versus second best conservative Prez since Ike (only Bill was better)? Yes


UNTIL WE GET FINANCE REFORM, MONEY OUT OF POLITICS, WE WILL NOT HAVE A 'GOOD CHOICE' TO CHOOSE FROM!

very true. If you watch that video you will understand that JFK was our last REAL president we had.real because unlike every president since him,he wasnt a puppet for the establishment.Unlike every president since him,he followed the constitution and served the people instead of the bankers and paid the price for doing so on nov 22nd 1963.You dont do what they tell you to do,they off you. He wasnt part of the country club that our current president and his buddy Bush and Clinton are. you're right that until we get money out of politics,we will never have a good choice to choose from again.

You'll never see a president anything like him again.as long as money is involved,we will never have a good choice again just like we havent for the past 50 years.Its gotten worse with each president since then and will only continue as long as we have this corrupt two party system and not a third party one who gets elected that is not backed by money, unfortunatley,i have hard time believing that will ever happen.not til the sheople get off their asses and fight to take their country back from the bankers running the country.

see you cant just say- i will vote for the lesser evil of the two because by resigning to that,you are contributing to the problem because you are STILL voting for evil.your choices are always hitler or stalin.either way your screwed with either one of them in office.so since they never give you a good choice to whom to vote for since they are always backed by money,its a complete waste of time voting.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Well, SDI worked well enough to not be a failure, but that isn't really the point. Dante does have a kernel of truth that Reagan's actions really did appall the extreme right and what would be the neocons. Reagan didn't make any secret that he loathed nuclear weapons. (that was much of the joke when he said on tv, not knowing the cameras were on, 'the bombing commences in ... minutes.")

Reagan was a liberal in terms of he shared the founders view that mankind inevitably was in an upward spiral towards personal liberation. His religious views weren't all that different from Deists. The notion that freedom was secured via mutually assured destruction of human kind was abhorrent. But, he was such a staunch anti-communist, the RW didn't go there. Moreover, Goldwater had been maligned by the Daisy commercial by LBJ. Frankly, Goldwater was less a menace to unleash the holocaust than LBJ.

The impact of SDI was that Reagan and Gorby both knew the soviet generals would have to respond to an arms race, and the soviets couldn't afford it. (Neither could we, but so much) Whether the damn thing could stop 50-75-90% of warheads wasn't really the point. The Soviets needed a lot more missles, that was the point.

By the mid 80s it was clear that the Soviet economy wasn't able to allocate capital quickly enough to compete in a post-technological world. Reagan always distrusted the CIA analysis of their economy. While the Soviets probably did grow gnp faster than we in the early 60s, there was no way they could compete in 1984. As the saying went, if they can't provide citizens tampons, they are a third world country with nukes.

So, into his second term, having achieved a fair degree of conventional arms parity, and with a idealist distrust of MAD, and the economic evidence that his faith in neoliberal economics (Thatcherism) was justified, the old guy was a lot freer to be Reagan. And Dante's right, there were political commentators on the right who weren't as great visionaries as Reagan, who didn't get that.

But, the economic views of Commanding Heights sort balance out Will and the gang.

You meant to say Reagan's (one sided) Keynesian policies where he ramped up spending created an economy that did slightly better than the stagnant 1970's? He did this at the same time he cut revenues to the treasury and taxes on the rich. Tripled US debt



SDI WORKED? Under Reagan? Got a link?


This was the first successful test of the U.S. missile defense system in four attempts dating back to December, 2008.

Of the 16 tests of this defense system held thus far, eight hit the target and eight missed it.

The system was declared operational 10 years ago and has cost a total of $40 billion. It dates back to President Reagan’s “Star Wars” concept.

The defending missile is supposed to hit the incoming missile in mid-air. Like all the previous tests, this one was carefully staged.

Those launching the intercepting missile knew the target’s exact dimensions, its time of launch, its trajectory, and its speed.

This information would not be available in time of war.

News & Views: Missile defense hits its target

exactly. also the religious views that were told to us by the controlled media and what they ACTUALLy were are like night and day.The religious views of reagan that were crammed down our throuts were that he has a god fearing christian.he fooled people very well in that by wanting prayer in school.But this was the REAL Ronnies religious views.

Ronald Reagan: No Hero

Much of the activity of the Reagan years can be explained by the fact that Ronnie and Nancy were devout supporters of Satanists. So devout that they insisted the head of the satanic Temple of Set, Colonel Michael Aquino, visit the White House wearing his satanic high-priest robe. With Reagan's support Aquino was able to get Satanism recognized as a protected religious belief in the military. Aquino was investigated by the military as well as the San Francisco Police Dept. when children identified him as head of a "Devil Worship Club" that ritually molested, murdered and cannibalized children. The court document notes that several members of the Army thought there was probable cause to "Title" Aquino with offenses of indecent acts with a child, sodomy, conspiracy, kidnapping, and false swearing - but the case was dismissed under pressure from the highest levels.

Daughter Maureen Reagan was close to Larry King, head of the failed Franklin Community Credit Union, Republican darling and leader of a child abduction, pornography and prostitution ring. Larry King was well known in the 1980's for his lavish parties attended by Republican power-elite. Less well known was the fact that some of his events came with party favors of child sex-slaves. King was involved with the satanic CIA child abduction and mind control program that kidnapped Johnny Gosch while he was delivering newspapers.

The June 29, 1989 Washington Times ran an article under the headlines of "Homosexual Prostitution Probe Ensnares Official of Bush, Reagan,'' with the kicker "Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.'' The article said that "A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close ties to Washington's political elite."

When the FBI and Omaha police refused to investigate allegations against King, the Nebraska State Legislature conducted an investigation that uncovered a satanic criminal trail that led to the what longtime CIA Director William Colby called "the highest levels." Fifteen of the people involved in the investigation died under mysterious circumstance, included William Colby - who was acting as a consultant to the investigation. King was ultimately convicted of fraud for his part in the theft of over $40 million from the credit union and served five years in prison but was never convicted of his more heinous offences.

The Republican party kept King in its innermost circle even after his indictment. He sang the Star Spangled Banner at the Republican National Convention in 1988 while under investigation. It wasn't until his arrest that the Republican party finally turned its back on him.

In 1998 & 1999, a U.S. District Court in Lincoln, Nebraska, heard testimony in the case of Paul A. Bonacci v. Lawrence E. King in which Bonacci charged that he had been ritualistically abused by the defendant, as part of a nationwide pedophile ring liked to powerful political figures in Washington and to elements of the U.S. military and intelligence establishment. Judge Warren K. Urbom ordered King, in Federal prison at the time, to pay $1 million in damages to Bonacci, in what Bonacci's attorney John DeCamp said was a clear signal that "the evidence presented was credible."

America's worst financial disaster since the Great Depression occured under Reagan with the collapse of the Savings & Loan system. Nearly $500 billion was looted from thousands of Savings & Loans by a criminal ring that included the Mafia, CIA and the Bush family. Neil Bush was involved in the collapse of Silverado Savings & Loan but never served any jail time. By the time the Federal government and elite is done milking the scam further, US taxpayers will have paid well over a trillion dollars.

The full extent of Reagan's crimes may never be known because George W. Bush issued an executive order which countermands the 1978 Presidential Records Act and prevents the release of 68,000 pages of Reagan era documents. Given that Reagan lacked the intelligence to carry out some of the more elaborate crimes, the records are likely to shed light on the true role of the Bush crime family.

Let us remember Reagan as he really was...

Liar
Thief
Mass murderer
Supporter of abortion
War criminal
Traitor of the American people
Destroyer of freedom
Destroyer of the environment
Corporate whore
Supporter of Satanists and child murderers
While Reagan may have not been entirely aware of what he was doing and how his decisions would impact the world, he was also much more sinister than the media has portrayed him.

this link here is along read but it exposes the REAL ronald reagan though.its well worth the read.

http://truthseeker24info.blogspot.com/2009/01/ronald-reagan.html

whats really funny though is the foolish sheep who hate obama so much but love reagan.Like alex jones says so well in this link,Obama has done everything that reagan did.reagan was a far better actor though so he fooled people better than obozo does.

http://www.infowars.com/the-great-reagan-legacy/

 

[LA RAM FAN]

hey dad take a look at this actual photo in this link.The reaganut worshippers act like that link was neevr posted everytime i post it because it exposes how reagan was a member of that evil organization bohemian grove with an actual photo taken of him and fellow friend and other fellow mass murderer dick nixon.


Summer, 1967 at Owls Nest Camp with two future U.S. presidents. Around the table, left to right: Preston Hotchkis, Ronald Reagan, Harvey Hancock (standing), Richard Nixon, Glenn T. Seaborg, Jack Sparks, (unidentified individual), Frank Lindine, and Edwin W. Pauley.



Alex Jones: Dark Secrets ? Inside Bohemian Grove! Satanism & The Western Ruling Elites! « Socio-Economics History Blog

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Who cares if SDI worked. Reagan was a master at playing the card, and damned if it didn't work. He scared the living shit out of the Soviets and drove another nail into their coffin.

The man certainly led a charmed political life. As governor of California and as POTUS, he could do little wrong. Almost 30 years after his death, he is viewed by 35% of Americans as the best post-WWII leader. Read 'em and weep suckers!

Um, no, not really.

The USSR fell because of the same reason all other empires fall. The ruling nation no longer saw a benefit to having an empire, and the ruled no longer saw a benefit to being ruled.

But please believe it was because the DoorMat of Europe wanted to throw off the communists for big corporations.

there MEATHEADS drugged up brain at work again.the name meathead fits him to a tee.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Did you then vote Dem?

Mostly, try to vote the most liberal candidate I can

Conservative policy NEVER works for ANYONE but the 1%ers

What a dope you are.....bet you hear that a lot.


1. Under Reagan, the debt went up $1.7 trillion, from $900 billion to $2.6 trillion.
2. But….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion
3. Reagan's near-trillion-dollar bulge in defense spending transformed the global balance of power in favor of capitalism. Spurring a stock-market, energy, venture-capital, real-estate and employment boom, the Reagan tax-rate cuts and other pro-enterprise policies added some $17 trillion to America's private-sector assets, dwarfing the trillion-dollar rise in public-sector deficits and creating 45 million net new jobs at rising wages and salaries.

George Gilder: The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan - WSJ

Reaganomics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.” http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm


“As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.”
US Department of the Treasury


The benefits from Reaganomics:
a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) FDsys - Browse ERP
f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116


b. and c. Kiva - Kiva Lending Team: Team Ron Paul, Hulk Hogan, Jesus of Nazareth, Chuck Norris, Ronald Reagan, John Wayne, Thomas Jefferson, Alex Jones, Peyton Manning, The Tuskegee Airmen, Schiff, REAL Americans, and George W. Bush

priceless.the troll uses WIKIPEDIA,a place that has a long history of being innacurate as her source.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Who cares if SDI worked. Reagan was a master at playing the card, and damned if it didn't work. He scared the living shit out of the Soviets and drove another nail into their coffin.

The man certainly led a charmed political life. As governor of California and as POTUS, he could do little wrong. Almost 30 years after his death, he is viewed by 35% of Americans as the best post-WWII leader. Read 'em and weep suckers!

A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration. The campaign was led by Grover Norquist and his “Ronald Reagan Legacy Project,” along with corporate-funded propaganda mills like Heritage and American Enterprise Institute that underwrote hundreds of flattering books to create a mythic hero and perpetual tax-cutter.


...Did Reagan end the Cold War? Immediately after the Berlin Wall fell, a USA Today survey found that only 14% of respondents believed that. Historians mostly credit forty years of “Containment” by eight U.S. presidents.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

meatheads drugged up MEATHEAD brain and the rest of the reaganut worshippers got their asses handed to them on a platter from you.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Mostly, try to vote the most liberal candidate I can

Conservative policy NEVER works for ANYONE but the 1%ers

Okay...so since Reagan ran up the deficit, expanded the drug war, and ignored the rule of law, you decided to vote for the most liberal candidates.

Do you fail to see how dumb that is?

Didn't read the other comments and use context huh? I said I voted Ronnie 'Cut and Run' Reagan twice THEN grew a brain, and started voting the most liberal. I was 19 my first GOP vote, 23 my last...

yeah somehow he missed that.lol

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Mostly, try to vote the most liberal candidate I can

Conservative policy NEVER works for ANYONE but the 1%ers

What a dope you are.....bet you hear that a lot.


1. Under Reagan, the debt went up $1.7 trillion, from $900 billion to $2.6 trillion.
2. But….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion
3. Reagan's near-trillion-dollar bulge in defense spending transformed the global balance of power in favor of capitalism. Spurring a stock-market, energy, venture-capital, real-estate and employment boom, the Reagan tax-rate cuts and other pro-enterprise policies added some $17 trillion to America's private-sector assets, dwarfing the trillion-dollar rise in public-sector deficits and creating 45 million net new jobs at rising wages and salaries.

George Gilder: The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan - WSJ

Reaganomics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.” http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm


“As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.”
US Department of the Treasury


The benefits from Reaganomics:
a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) FDsys - Browse ERP
f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116


b. and c. Kiva - Kiva Lending Team: Team Ron Paul, Hulk Hogan, Jesus of Nazareth, Chuck Norris, Ronald Reagan, John Wayne, Thomas Jefferson, Alex Jones, Peyton Manning, The Tuskegee Airmen, Schiff, REAL Americans, and George W. Bush

Yes, Reagan was the ONY Prez to triple the US debt. First Prez to take US from a creditor nation to debtor nation.

Reagan opposed the Civil Rights Act, which he said he would have voted against, and publically supported the South African apartheid regime

If government employment under Mr. Obama had grown at Reagan-era rates, 1.3 million more Americans would be working as schoolteachers, firefighters, police officers, etc., than are currently employed in such jobs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/opinion/krugman-states-of-depression.html?_r=4&hp&

These lack of correlation between lower taxes and increased economic growth flies in the face of the assumptions of many. But upon a closer look, it’s easy to understand why higher taxes can actually encourage more investment in the economy.

Many Reagan apologists claim that these tax cuts created the robust economy that followed. However this ignores ignores the effects of the Federal Reserve’s lowering of interest rates. Reagan also increased military spending and ran up the federal deficit (the combined effect of tax cuts and increased spending). In other words, Reagan did exactly what Republican pundits who praise him are currently criticizing Obama for. Reagan advocates claim his tax cuts bolstered the economy while ignoring the lowered interest rates and increased deficit spending (kind of like an ongoing stimulus package).


http://www.factandmyth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/reagan-deficit-stimulus.gif



http://www.factandmyth.com/taxes/tax-decreases-do-not-increase-revenue

and dont forget how he betrayed americans shipping jobs overseas as well.

sure is fun watching you hand the reaganut worshippers their asses to them on a platter.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Mostly, try to vote the most liberal candidate I can

Conservative policy NEVER works for ANYONE but the 1%ers

What a dope you are.....bet you hear that a lot.


1. Under Reagan, the debt went up $1.7 trillion, from $900 billion to $2.6 trillion.
2. But….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion
3. Reagan's near-trillion-dollar bulge in defense spending transformed the global balance of power in favor of capitalism. Spurring a stock-market, energy, venture-capital, real-estate and employment boom, the Reagan tax-rate cuts and other pro-enterprise policies added some $17 trillion to America's private-sector assets, dwarfing the trillion-dollar rise in public-sector deficits and creating 45 million net new jobs at rising wages and salaries.

George Gilder: The Real Reagan Lesson for Romney-Ryan - WSJ

Reaganomics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.” http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm


“As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.”
US Department of the Treasury


The benefits from Reaganomics:
a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) FDsys - Browse ERP
f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116


b. and c. Kiva - Kiva Lending Team: Team Ron Paul, Hulk Hogan, Jesus of Nazareth, Chuck Norris, Ronald Reagan, John Wayne, Thomas Jefferson, Alex Jones, Peyton Manning, The Tuskegee Airmen, Schiff, REAL Americans, and George W. Bush

The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan


A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration. The campaign was led by Grover Norquist and his “Ronald Reagan Legacy Project,” along with corporate-funded propaganda mills like Heritage and American Enterprise Institute that underwrote hundreds of flattering books to create a mythic hero and perpetual tax-cutter.




They singled out Reagan’s 1981 tax cut that lowered top marginal rates from 70% to 28% as the basis for the campaign, leaving out the inconvenient reality that he subsequently raised taxes eleven times, according to former Republican Senator Alan Simpson who “was there.”

The plutocrats idolize Reagan because he cut taxes on the wealthy -- on income, capital gains, interest, and dividends -- and increased taxes on working people, including raising the self-employment (SECA) tax rate by 60%. He made major cuts in Medicaid, food stamps, aid to families with dependent children (AFDC), and school lunch programs. Mark Hertsgaard (On Bended Knee: the Press and the Reagan Presidency) called it arguably the “single greatest government-led transfer of wealth in history, and in the direction of the top two percent;” the number of families living below the poverty line increased by one-third under Reagan



The result is an enduring, entitled class of individuals who believe that work should be taxed, but wealth should not, and probably, like Reagan that ‘The homeless are homeless because they want to be homeless.’ They control the Republican Party.


Their revisionist history makes Reagan into a small-government fiscal conservative, but he actually grew the government by 53% (Mises Institute), increasing military expenditures by 27% and creating another new department, Veterans’ Affairs. He never submitted a balanced budget and ended up tripling the national debt to $3 trillion. His S&L bailout cost 2.4 times more to fix (relative to GDP) than Bush’s financial crisis. The Washington Post reported in Reagan's last year that "In less than a decade, the world's largest creditor nation has become its leading debtor….”



Never mentioned in the current hagiography is that he amnestied 3 million illegal aliens; that among his most important advisers was an astrologer (Joan Quigley) whom Nancy consulted daily about major decisions; and that he regularly fabricated stories, including about personally “liberating” Nazi concentration camps (he never left California).



Other inconvenient facts about Reagan have disappeared into the memory hole: he provided aid to Saddam Hussein after his unprovoked attacked on Iran and despite Saddam’s known use of chemical weapons; he funneled money and arms to the Islamist mujahidin fighters in Afghanistan who later morphed into al Qaeda; his sending Marines ashore in Lebanon led to the deaths of 241 Marines; and, he invaded tiny Grenada on the flimsiest of pretenses.

Reagan illegally traded weapons to Iran for American hostages (which led to more Americans being kidnapped) and repeatedly lied about it.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

cant say it enough,sure is fun watching you had the reaganut worshippers their asses to them on a platter/.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Petition seeks to rename Ronald Reagan airport after Tim Howard | TheHill

President Reagan seems to be becoming part of American humor. The brunt of a joke.

the ones awake and not in denial are slowly waking up.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

A Gallup poll taken in 1992 found that Ronald Reagan was the most unpopular living president apart from Nixon, and ranked even below Jimmy Carter; just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Reagan while Carter was viewed favorably by 63 percent of Americans.

This was before the Hollywood-style re-write of Reagan’s presidency that created the fictional character portrayed during Reagan’s 100th birthday celebration. The campaign was led by Grover Norquist and his “Ronald Reagan Legacy Project,” along with corporate-funded propaganda mills like Heritage and American Enterprise Institute that underwrote hundreds of flattering books to create a mythic hero and perpetual tax-cutter.


...Did Reagan end the Cold War? Immediately after the Berlin Wall fell, a USA Today survey found that only 14% of respondents believed that. Historians mostly credit forty years of “Containment” by eight U.S. presidents.


Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan

Your source is even less credible than yourself. He talks about polls that he can't link doubting, no doubt, that idiots would link his articles to those who could actually think for themselves.

The failure is just as much yours as the fool you linked.

Failures really don't like Reagan, and I can't imagine why.

Three Gallup ratings in 1990, 1992, and 1993 showed Reagan's job approval rating in the 50% to 54% range

Ronald Reagan From the People?s Perspective: A Gallup Poll Review


However, Reagan, Ford, Carter, and George H.W. Bush have enjoyed substantial increases in public approval since leaving office, particularly when they have stayed out of partisan politics.

Kennedy Still Highest-Rated Modern President, Nixon Lowest



Poppy Bush’s approval rating hit a low of 29 percent in midsummer 1992, a steep decline of 60 percent in 16 months.

5 Presidents With the Biggest Approval Rating Declines | Listosaur | Hungry for Knowledge


NOW USING YOUR BRAIN, IS IT LESS LIKELY OR MORE LIKELY THAT THE FACT IS REAGAN WAS LIKED LESS THAN EVEN CARTER IN 1992, BEFORE THE MYTHICAL REMAKING OF HIM BY RIGHT WINGERS? LOL




By 1992, three years after he left the White House, Ronald Reagan was anything but a beloved former president. As a painful recession gripped the country, the public came to see the Reagan years — which featured a massive defense buildup, soaring deficits and even a stock market crash in 1987 — as the source of their economic woes. Running for president that year, Bill Clinton promised to enact a clean break from the “failed policies of Reagan and Bush.” As Reagan prepared to speak at the Republican National Convention in August, a Gallup poll found that just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of him. By contrast, Jimmy Carter, the man Reagan had defeated in a 44-state rout in 1980, was viewed favorably by 63 percent of the American public. The Reagan presidency stood in something approaching disrepute.

Today, though, you’d never know any of this happened. In the two decades since it bottomed out, Reagan’s image has been resurrected, thanks largely to a relentless campaign from conservative activists.


When Reagan was (much) less popular than Carter - Salon.com

Got to say it again because it is so much true.never gets old watching you hadn the reaganut trolls their asses to them on a platter. they can only sling shit in defeat like the monkey trolls they are.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Three Gallup ratings in 1990, 1992, and 1993 showed Reagan's job approval rating in the 50% to 54% range

Ronald Reagan From the People?s Perspective: A Gallup Poll Review


However, Reagan, Ford, Carter, and George H.W. Bush have enjoyed substantial increases in public approval since leaving office, particularly when they have stayed out of partisan politics.

Kennedy Still Highest-Rated Modern President, Nixon Lowest



Poppy Bush’s approval rating hit a low of 29 percent in midsummer 1992, a steep decline of 60 percent in 16 months.

5 Presidents With the Biggest Approval Rating Declines | Listosaur | Hungry for Knowledge


NOW USING YOUR BRAIN, IS IT LESS LIKELY OR MORE LIKELY THAT THE FACT IS REAGAN WAS LIKED LESS THAN EVEN CARTER IN 1992, BEFORE THE MYTHICAL REMAKING OF HIM BY RIGHT WINGERS? LOL




By 1992, three years after he left the White House, Ronald Reagan was anything but a beloved former president. As a painful recession gripped the country, the public came to see the Reagan years — which featured a massive defense buildup, soaring deficits and even a stock market crash in 1987 — as the source of their economic woes. Running for president that year, Bill Clinton promised to enact a clean break from the “failed policies of Reagan and Bush.” As Reagan prepared to speak at the Republican National Convention in August, a Gallup poll found that just 46 percent of Americans had a favorable view of him. By contrast, Jimmy Carter, the man Reagan had defeated in a 44-state rout in 1980, was viewed favorably by 63 percent of the American public. The Reagan presidency stood in something approaching disrepute.

Today, though, you’d never know any of this happened. In the two decades since it bottomed out, Reagan’s image has been resurrected, thanks largely to a relentless campaign from conservative activists.


When Reagan was (much) less popular than Carter - Salon.com

Do you honestly think posting the same Salon article not once but twice is going to legitimize it or make you seem any more credible? Desperate historical revision was for the likes of the peasant population of post-Red October Russia.

Still, as with the likes of Camp, I despair the dumbing down of America.

Got it, Giving you CREDIBLE links having Gallup polls showing 50% approval ratings for Ronnie and 29% for Bush, doesn't allow you to believe Reagan hit 46% favorable ratings, just before the GOP Convention in 1992? As the US economy was tanking? lol

He isnt called meathead for no reason.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You got no room to talk about dumbing down. It was originally named National Airport and built by FDR. It became Washington National when Reagan gave up federal government ownership of the airport and became named Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport under Clinton. It is usually referred to as simply Reagan International.
It was never referred to as the Washington, D.C. International Airport.

No, your dumbing down is apparent and not only with your tenuous grasp of history. To wit:

For decades it was called Washington National Airport; it was renamed in 1998 to honor former U.S. President Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an example of dumbing down. You can't deny it, too obvious. Sorry.

A genuine dumb ass is one that goes on the attack and calls others dumb armed with nothing more than wikipedia for a source. National Airport was always National Airport until 1987 when the Washington Metropolitan Airports Authority was established.
Anyhow, here is a more reliable source:

History

 

[LA RAM FAN]

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Blacks did much better with Reagan as President than with Obama

Now you just need to convince blacks of that.

Of course, you'll claim something about them being on a "Plantation" or some such shit.

unlike your typical right wing red state voter, who is poorer than shit.

Blacks did so well under reagan that he made them all go poor in africa opposing the bill congress drew up to give them aid. crusader retard always helps prove what a lunatic he is with his own points.

http://www.salon.com/2011/02/05/ronald_reagan_apartheid_south_africa/#

 

[zen]

I actually went to polls and voted "None of the Above" for several elections after Reagan...I don't sit them out, I go and let my disenchantment be heard...

I believe in Progress, Frank, but I'm no Progressive. Your knee-jerk assumption that anyone who doesn't admire Reagan must be a socialist is asinine...I am a small "d" small "r" democratic republican. I believe, as did our republican founders, that all human beings have a right to live their lives immune from domination, protected from domination outside the law (government's first duty) and protected from domination within the law by limits placed on the power of government.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I actually went to polls and voted "None of the Above" for several elections after Reagan...I don't sit them out, I go and let my disenchantment be heard...

I believe in Progress, Frank, but I'm no Progressive. Your knee-jerk assumption that anyone who doesn't admire Reagan must be a socialist is asinine..





You got to remember,as lunatic as the ramblings are of the other reaganut worshippers,Franks are 100 times more so in the fact he is a distant cousin of his.Thats why he takes it so personal more so than the others when you say ONE THING negative about him. going into meltdown mode throwing temper tantrems about it.He obviously has a lot of blood pressure pills handy when that happens to avoid going to the hospital and having heart attacks.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Well, SDI worked well enough to not be a failure, but that isn't really the point. Dante does have a kernel of truth that Reagan's actions really did appall the extreme right and what would be the neocons. Reagan didn't make any secret that he loathed nuclear weapons. (that was much of the joke when he said on tv, not knowing the cameras were on, 'the bombing commences in ... minutes.")

Reagan was a liberal in terms of he shared the founders view that mankind inevitably was in an upward spiral towards personal liberation. His religious views weren't all that different from Deists. The notion that freedom was secured via mutually assured destruction of human kind was abhorrent. But, he was such a staunch anti-communist, the RW didn't go there. Moreover, Goldwater had been maligned by the Daisy commercial by LBJ. Frankly, Goldwater was less a menace to unleash the holocaust than LBJ.

The impact of SDI was that Reagan and Gorby both knew the soviet generals would have to respond to an arms race, and the soviets couldn't afford it. (Neither could we, but so much) Whether the damn thing could stop 50-75-90% of warheads wasn't really the point. The Soviets needed a lot more missles, that was the point.

By the mid 80s it was clear that the Soviet economy wasn't able to allocate capital quickly enough to compete in a post-technological world. Reagan always distrusted the CIA analysis of their economy. While the Soviets probably did grow gnp faster than we in the early 60s, there was no way they could compete in 1984. As the saying went, if they can't provide citizens tampons, they are a third world country with nukes.

So, into his second term, having achieved a fair degree of conventional arms parity, and with a idealist distrust of MAD, and the economic evidence that his faith in neoliberal economics (Thatcherism) was justified, the old guy was a lot freer to be Reagan. And Dante's right, there were political commentators on the right who weren't as great visionaries as Reagan, who didn't get that.

But, the economic views of Commanding Heights sort balance out Will and the gang.

You meant to say Reagan's (one sided) Keynesian policies where he ramped up spending created an economy that did slightly better than the stagnant 1970's? He did this at the same time he cut revenues to the treasury and taxes on the rich. Tripled US debt



SDI WORKED? Under Reagan? Got a link?


This was the first successful test of the U.S. missile defense system in four attempts dating back to December, 2008.

Of the 16 tests of this defense system held thus far, eight hit the target and eight missed it.

The system was declared operational 10 years ago and has cost a total of $40 billion. It dates back to President Reagan’s “Star Wars” concept.

The defending missile is supposed to hit the incoming missile in mid-air. Like all the previous tests, this one was carefully staged.

Those launching the intercepting missile knew the target’s exact dimensions, its time of launch, its trajectory, and its speed.

This information would not be available in time of war.

News & Views: Missile defense hits its target

exactly. also the religious views that were told to us by the controlled media and what they ACTUALLy were are like night and day.The religious views of reagan that were crammed down our throuts were that he has a god fearing christian.he fooled people very well in that by wanting prayer in school.But this was the REAL Ronnies religious views.

Ronald Reagan: No Hero

Much of the activity of the Reagan years can be explained by the fact that Ronnie and Nancy were devout supporters of Satanists. So devout that they insisted the head of the satanic Temple of Set, Colonel Michael Aquino, visit the White House wearing his satanic high-priest robe. With Reagan's support Aquino was able to get Satanism recognized as a protected religious belief in the military. Aquino was investigated by the military as well as the San Francisco Police Dept. when children identified him as head of a "Devil Worship Club" that ritually molested, murdered and cannibalized children. The court document notes that several members of the Army thought there was probable cause to "Title" Aquino with offenses of indecent acts with a child, sodomy, conspiracy, kidnapping, and false swearing - but the case was dismissed under pressure from the highest levels.

Daughter Maureen Reagan was close to Larry King, head of the failed Franklin Community Credit Union, Republican darling and leader of a child abduction, pornography and prostitution ring. Larry King was well known in the 1980's for his lavish parties attended by Republican power-elite. Less well known was the fact that some of his events came with party favors of child sex-slaves. King was involved with the satanic CIA child abduction and mind control program that kidnapped Johnny Gosch while he was delivering newspapers.

The June 29, 1989 Washington Times ran an article under the headlines of "Homosexual Prostitution Probe Ensnares Official of Bush, Reagan,'' with the kicker "Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.'' The article said that "A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close ties to Washington's political elite."

When the FBI and Omaha police refused to investigate allegations against King, the Nebraska State Legislature conducted an investigation that uncovered a satanic criminal trail that led to the what longtime CIA Director William Colby called "the highest levels." Fifteen of the people involved in the investigation died under mysterious circumstance, included William Colby - who was acting as a consultant to the investigation. King was ultimately convicted of fraud for his part in the theft of over $40 million from the credit union and served five years in prison but was never convicted of his more heinous offences.

The Republican party kept King in its innermost circle even after his indictment. He sang the Star Spangled Banner at the Republican National Convention in 1988 while under investigation. It wasn't until his arrest that the Republican party finally turned its back on him.

In 1998 & 1999, a U.S. District Court in Lincoln, Nebraska, heard testimony in the case of Paul A. Bonacci v. Lawrence E. King in which Bonacci charged that he had been ritualistically abused by the defendant, as part of a nationwide pedophile ring liked to powerful political figures in Washington and to elements of the U.S. military and intelligence establishment. Judge Warren K. Urbom ordered King, in Federal prison at the time, to pay $1 million in damages to Bonacci, in what Bonacci's attorney John DeCamp said was a clear signal that "the evidence presented was credible."

America's worst financial disaster since the Great Depression occured under Reagan with the collapse of the Savings & Loan system. Nearly $500 billion was looted from thousands of Savings & Loans by a criminal ring that included the Mafia, CIA and the Bush family. Neil Bush was involved in the collapse of Silverado Savings & Loan but never served any jail time. By the time the Federal government and elite is done milking the scam further, US taxpayers will have paid well over a trillion dollars.

The full extent of Reagan's crimes may never be known because George W. Bush issued an executive order which countermands the 1978 Presidential Records Act and prevents the release of 68,000 pages of Reagan era documents. Given that Reagan lacked the intelligence to carry out some of the more elaborate crimes, the records are likely to shed light on the true role of the Bush crime family.

Let us remember Reagan as he really was...

Liar
Thief
Mass murderer
Supporter of abortion
War criminal
Traitor of the American people
Destroyer of freedom
Destroyer of the environment
Corporate whore
Supporter of Satanists and child murderers
While Reagan may have not been entirely aware of what he was doing and how his decisions would impact the world, he was also much more sinister than the media has portrayed him.

this link here is along read but it exposes the REAL ronald reagan though.its well worth the read.

A Despository of Information: Ronald Reagan

whats really funny though is the foolish sheep who hate obama so much but love reagan.Like alex jones says so well in this link,Obama has done everything that reagan did.reagan was a far better actor though so he fooled people better than obozo does.

» The Great Reagan Legacy? Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Hey Dad,this was the only post of mine I noticed you dit not comment on,did you read through it and the links as well? I know the reaganut worshippers wont so I hope you at least will.thanks.

 

[Dad2three]

You meant to say Reagan's (one sided) Keynesian policies where he ramped up spending created an economy that did slightly better than the stagnant 1970's? He did this at the same time he cut revenues to the treasury and taxes on the rich. Tripled US debt



SDI WORKED? Under Reagan? Got a link?


This was the first successful test of the U.S. missile defense system in four attempts dating back to December, 2008.

Of the 16 tests of this defense system held thus far, eight hit the target and eight missed it.

The system was declared operational 10 years ago and has cost a total of $40 billion. It dates back to President Reagan’s “Star Wars” concept.

The defending missile is supposed to hit the incoming missile in mid-air. Like all the previous tests, this one was carefully staged.

Those launching the intercepting missile knew the target’s exact dimensions, its time of launch, its trajectory, and its speed.

This information would not be available in time of war.

News & Views: Missile defense hits its target

exactly. also the religious views that were told to us by the controlled media and what they ACTUALLy were are like night and day.The religious views of reagan that were crammed down our throuts were that he has a god fearing christian.he fooled people very well in that by wanting prayer in school.But this was the REAL Ronnies religious views.

Ronald Reagan: No Hero

Much of the activity of the Reagan years can be explained by the fact that Ronnie and Nancy were devout supporters of Satanists. So devout that they insisted the head of the satanic Temple of Set, Colonel Michael Aquino, visit the White House wearing his satanic high-priest robe. With Reagan's support Aquino was able to get Satanism recognized as a protected religious belief in the military. Aquino was investigated by the military as well as the San Francisco Police Dept. when children identified him as head of a "Devil Worship Club" that ritually molested, murdered and cannibalized children. The court document notes that several members of the Army thought there was probable cause to "Title" Aquino with offenses of indecent acts with a child, sodomy, conspiracy, kidnapping, and false swearing - but the case was dismissed under pressure from the highest levels.

Daughter Maureen Reagan was close to Larry King, head of the failed Franklin Community Credit Union, Republican darling and leader of a child abduction, pornography and prostitution ring. Larry King was well known in the 1980's for his lavish parties attended by Republican power-elite. Less well known was the fact that some of his events came with party favors of child sex-slaves. King was involved with the satanic CIA child abduction and mind control program that kidnapped Johnny Gosch while he was delivering newspapers.

The June 29, 1989 Washington Times ran an article under the headlines of "Homosexual Prostitution Probe Ensnares Official of Bush, Reagan,'' with the kicker "Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.'' The article said that "A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close ties to Washington's political elite."

When the FBI and Omaha police refused to investigate allegations against King, the Nebraska State Legislature conducted an investigation that uncovered a satanic criminal trail that led to the what longtime CIA Director William Colby called "the highest levels." Fifteen of the people involved in the investigation died under mysterious circumstance, included William Colby - who was acting as a consultant to the investigation. King was ultimately convicted of fraud for his part in the theft of over $40 million from the credit union and served five years in prison but was never convicted of his more heinous offences.

The Republican party kept King in its innermost circle even after his indictment. He sang the Star Spangled Banner at the Republican National Convention in 1988 while under investigation. It wasn't until his arrest that the Republican party finally turned its back on him.

In 1998 & 1999, a U.S. District Court in Lincoln, Nebraska, heard testimony in the case of Paul A. Bonacci v. Lawrence E. King in which Bonacci charged that he had been ritualistically abused by the defendant, as part of a nationwide pedophile ring liked to powerful political figures in Washington and to elements of the U.S. military and intelligence establishment. Judge Warren K. Urbom ordered King, in Federal prison at the time, to pay $1 million in damages to Bonacci, in what Bonacci's attorney John DeCamp said was a clear signal that "the evidence presented was credible."

America's worst financial disaster since the Great Depression occured under Reagan with the collapse of the Savings & Loan system. Nearly $500 billion was looted from thousands of Savings & Loans by a criminal ring that included the Mafia, CIA and the Bush family. Neil Bush was involved in the collapse of Silverado Savings & Loan but never served any jail time. By the time the Federal government and elite is done milking the scam further, US taxpayers will have paid well over a trillion dollars.

The full extent of Reagan's crimes may never be known because George W. Bush issued an executive order which countermands the 1978 Presidential Records Act and prevents the release of 68,000 pages of Reagan era documents. Given that Reagan lacked the intelligence to carry out some of the more elaborate crimes, the records are likely to shed light on the true role of the Bush crime family.

Let us remember Reagan as he really was...

Liar
Thief
Mass murderer
Supporter of abortion
War criminal
Traitor of the American people
Destroyer of freedom
Destroyer of the environment
Corporate whore
Supporter of Satanists and child murderers
While Reagan may have not been entirely aware of what he was doing and how his decisions would impact the world, he was also much more sinister than the media has portrayed him.

this link here is along read but it exposes the REAL ronald reagan though.its well worth the read.

A Despository of Information: Ronald Reagan

whats really funny though is the foolish sheep who hate obama so much but love reagan.Like alex jones says so well in this link,Obama has done everything that reagan did.reagan was a far better actor though so he fooled people better than obozo does.

» The Great Reagan Legacy? Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Hey Dad,this was the only post of mine I noticed you dit not comment on,did you read through it and the links as well? I know the reaganut worshippers wont so I hope you at least will.thanks.

Read about a dozen books on the misery of Reagan/Reaganomics, I have a minor in history, I recognize the horrors of the conservatives/libertarians policies!