Ready for some fake job numbers? Trump installs his Yes-Man in BLS

[HikerGuy83]

I see we have another moron here.

You should be able to spot one given that you are one.

 

[Delldude]

Yep. When do you think that happened?

Small rounding errors?

Here:

Under McEntarfer, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) consistently published overly optimistic jobs numbers — only for those numbers to be quietly revised later:

• Today, BLS had to revise down May and June jobs reports by a combined 258,000 jobs. These previous faulty jobs reports enabled the Federal Reserve to continue its disastrous policy of keeping interest rates high.
• • On June 6, The New York Times reported: “A solid jobs report for May has reinforced the Federal Reserve’s stance that it can take its time before restarting interest rate cuts.
  • On July 3, The New York Times reported that the June jobs report “fortifies the Federal Reserve’s case that it does not need to be in a hurry to lower borrowing costs.”
• Last year, BLS revised down the benchmark payroll growth for the year ending in March 2024 by 818,000 jobs — the second-largest benchmark revision on record.
• • The Daily Caller: “Including monthly revisions, the Biden administration overstated the number of jobs in the U.S. economy by 1.18 million in the year through March, accounting for approximately 36% of the 3.24 million jobs initially claimed, according to data from the BLS calculated by the Daily Caller News Foundation”
• 
  
• In July 2024, BLS revised jobs added in May of that year down by 54,000 jobs, and the jobs added in April down by 57,000 jobs.
• 
  
• In April 2024, BLS revised the jobs added in February of that year down — then further revised the number down the following month.
• 
  
• In February 2024, BLS revised the jobs added in December of the prior year down by 43,000 jobs and the jobs added in January of that year down by 124,000 jobs.
• 
  
• Bloomberg, 11/15/24: “Two key Senate Republicans excoriated the US government statistics agency responsible for monthly employment reports, saying recent large-scale revisions to initial figures show its ‘continued failures’ in producing crucial economic data … A preliminary annual revision to the jobs data, made in August, suggested job growth in the 12 months through March will be marked down by more than 800,000 — the largest downward revision since 2009 — making waves in financial markets and on Capitol Hill. The final data is due early next year.”
• 
  
• Bloomberg, 6/6/24: “Data published Wednesday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics suggest payrolls might have grown about 60,000 less per month on average last year than the roughly 250,000 run-rate derived from the agency’s monthly employment report.”
• 
  
• The Heritage Foundation, 5/3/2024: “The BLS provides monthly estimates for the number of nonfarm payrolls across the country through a survey of over 600,000 businesses. According to that data, payrolls increased by 640,000 in the third quarter of last year … But now, the BLS has published its Business Employment Dynamics, or BED, report from that same period, and it shows a drop in private payrolls of 192,000. That’s a mammoth difference of 832,000 for the months of July, August and September.”

During McEntarfer’s tenure, BLS was consistently plagued by technical errors and leaks of sensitive information:

• The Washington Post, 8/28/24: “The Bureau of Labor Statistics said Wednesday that a technical issue caused delays last week in the scheduled release of jobs data that carried major implications for the economy and the presidential election. Outside parties, the BLS said, then got the data because of a lack of communication within the agency over how to respond to public inquiries … The episode is at least the third in a series of missteps this year that critics argue may undermine faith in the agency.”
• 
  
• The Washington Post, 8/28/24: “Last week’s episode involved data closely watched by economists, Wall Street traders, and Federal Reserve officials who are keeping close tabs on employment as they prepare to cut interest rates. The lapse happened just days before the Fed sent its strongest signal yet that it was time to take pressure off the economy, in large part because officials fear that the labor market is softening — so financial markets were anticipating the release even more than usual.”
• 
  
• The Washington Post, 8/28/24: “The job revisions for last year and early 2024 appeared on a government website about a half-hour after their scheduled release time. But despite the delay, a handful of financial firms were able to obtain the information — which showed the largest downward revision to annual job creation in 15 years — before it was posted publicly. The gaffe appeared to run counter to the nonpartisan statistical agency’s long-standing policies intended to prevent individual stakeholders, particularly financial traders, from gaining any edge by ensuring that information is made widely accessible to everyone at the same time.”
• 
  
• House Committee on Education and the Workforce, 12/10/24:
• • “In March [2024], news reports revealed a BLS economist shared nonpublic information with several Wall Street firms.”
  • 
    
  • “On May 15[, 2024], BLS accidentally loaded data files to its website 30 minutes prior to the scheduled release time of the consumer price index.”
  • 
    
  • “On August 21[, 2024], while the public waited for the release of the job numbers, some Wall Street firms got a head start as BLS released the numbers to firms that spoke to the agency by phone, potentially giving them an unfair advantage.”
  • 
    
  • “On August 26[, 2024], Chairwoman Foxx and Health, Employment, Labor, and Pensions Subcommittee Chairman Bob Good (R-VA) called out the Biden-Harris administration for exaggerating job growth when revised BLS numbers proved an overestimate of more than 800,000 jobs.”
  • 
    
  • “On September 25[, 2024], to hold BLS accountable for its inability to ensure data is released uniformly and on time, Foxx and Good demanded answers from the Biden-Harris administration.”
  • 
    
  • “On October 25[, 2024], after BLS ignored the congressional request and additional disturbing reports surfaced in the press about BLS actions the day of the job numbers release on [August 21, 2024], the Committee reupped its oversight inquiry and sent a follow-up letter to BLS.”

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Small rounding errors?

Here:

Under McEntarfer, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) consistently published overly optimistic jobs numbers — only for those numbers to be quietly revised later:

• Today, BLS had to revise down May and June jobs reports by a combined 258,000 jobs. These previous faulty jobs reports enabled the Federal Reserve to continue its disastrous policy of keeping interest rates high.
• • On June 6, The New York Times reported: “A solid jobs report for May has reinforced the Federal Reserve’s stance that it can take its time before restarting interest rate cuts.
  • On July 3, The New York Times reported that the June jobs report “fortifies the Federal Reserve’s case that it does not need to be in a hurry to lower borrowing costs.”
• Last year, BLS revised down the benchmark payroll growth for the year ending in March 2024 by 818,000 jobs — the second-largest benchmark revision on record.
• • The Daily Caller: “Including monthly revisions, the Biden administration overstated the number of jobs in the U.S. economy by 1.18 million in the year through March, accounting for approximately 36% of the 3.24 million jobs initially claimed, according to data from the BLS calculated by the Daily Caller News Foundation”
• 
  
• In July 2024, BLS revised jobs added in May of that year down by 54,000 jobs, and the jobs added in April down by 57,000 jobs.
• 
  
• In April 2024, BLS revised the jobs added in February of that year down — then further revised the number down the following month.
• 
  
• In February 2024, BLS revised the jobs added in December of the prior year down by 43,000 jobs and the jobs added in January of that year down by 124,000 jobs.
• 
  
• Bloomberg, 11/15/24: “Two key Senate Republicans excoriated the US government statistics agency responsible for monthly employment reports, saying recent large-scale revisions to initial figures show its ‘continued failures’ in producing crucial economic data … A preliminary annual revision to the jobs data, made in August, suggested job growth in the 12 months through March will be marked down by more than 800,000 — the largest downward revision since 2009 — making waves in financial markets and on Capitol Hill. The final data is due early next year.”
• 
  
• Bloomberg, 6/6/24: “Data published Wednesday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics suggest payrolls might have grown about 60,000 less per month on average last year than the roughly 250,000 run-rate derived from the agency’s monthly employment report.”
• 
  
• The Heritage Foundation, 5/3/2024: “The BLS provides monthly estimates for the number of nonfarm payrolls across the country through a survey of over 600,000 businesses. According to that data, payrolls increased by 640,000 in the third quarter of last year … But now, the BLS has published its Business Employment Dynamics, or BED, report from that same period, and it shows a drop in private payrolls of 192,000. That’s a mammoth difference of 832,000 for the months of July, August and September.”

During McEntarfer’s tenure, BLS was consistently plagued by technical errors and leaks of sensitive information:

• The Washington Post, 8/28/24: “The Bureau of Labor Statistics said Wednesday that a technical issue caused delays last week in the scheduled release of jobs data that carried major implications for the economy and the presidential election. Outside parties, the BLS said, then got the data because of a lack of communication within the agency over how to respond to public inquiries … The episode is at least the third in a series of missteps this year that critics argue may undermine faith in the agency.”
• 
  
• The Washington Post, 8/28/24: “Last week’s episode involved data closely watched by economists, Wall Street traders, and Federal Reserve officials who are keeping close tabs on employment as they prepare to cut interest rates. The lapse happened just days before the Fed sent its strongest signal yet that it was time to take pressure off the economy, in large part because officials fear that the labor market is softening — so financial markets were anticipating the release even more than usual.”
• 
  
• The Washington Post, 8/28/24: “The job revisions for last year and early 2024 appeared on a government website about a half-hour after their scheduled release time. But despite the delay, a handful of financial firms were able to obtain the information — which showed the largest downward revision to annual job creation in 15 years — before it was posted publicly. The gaffe appeared to run counter to the nonpartisan statistical agency’s long-standing policies intended to prevent individual stakeholders, particularly financial traders, from gaining any edge by ensuring that information is made widely accessible to everyone at the same time.”
• 
  
• House Committee on Education and the Workforce, 12/10/24:
• • “In March [2024], news reports revealed a BLS economist shared nonpublic information with several Wall Street firms.”
  • 
    
  • “On May 15[, 2024], BLS accidentally loaded data files to its website 30 minutes prior to the scheduled release time of the consumer price index.”
  • 
    
  • “On August 21[, 2024], while the public waited for the release of the job numbers, some Wall Street firms got a head start as BLS released the numbers to firms that spoke to the agency by phone, potentially giving them an unfair advantage.”
  • 
    
  • “On August 26[, 2024], Chairwoman Foxx and Health, Employment, Labor, and Pensions Subcommittee Chairman Bob Good (R-VA) called out the Biden-Harris administration for exaggerating job growth when revised BLS numbers proved an overestimate of more than 800,000 jobs.”
  • 
    
  • “On September 25[, 2024], to hold BLS accountable for its inability to ensure data is released uniformly and on time, Foxx and Good demanded answers from the Biden-Harris administration.”
  • 
    
  • “On October 25[, 2024], after BLS ignored the congressional request and additional disturbing reports surfaced in the press about BLS actions the day of the job numbers release on [August 21, 2024], the Committee reupped its oversight inquiry and sent a follow-up letter to BLS.”

The head of that department should have been more on the ball. It also appears they have partisans in that agency, just like they did in all of the other agencies. I wonder how much money those leakers got?

 

[Marener]

Small rounding errors?

Here:

Under McEntarfer, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) consistently published overly optimistic jobs numbers — only for those numbers to be quietly revised later:

• Today, BLS had to revise down May and June jobs reports by a combined 258,000 jobs. These previous faulty jobs reports enabled the Federal Reserve to continue its disastrous policy of keeping interest rates high.
• • On June 6, The New York Times reported: “A solid jobs report for May has reinforced the Federal Reserve’s stance that it can take its time before restarting interest rate cuts.
  • On July 3, The New York Times reported that the June jobs report “fortifies the Federal Reserve’s case that it does not need to be in a hurry to lower borrowing costs.”
• Last year, BLS revised down the benchmark payroll growth for the year ending in March 2024 by 818,000 jobs — the second-largest benchmark revision on record.
• • The Daily Caller: “Including monthly revisions, the Biden administration overstated the number of jobs in the U.S. economy by 1.18 million in the year through March, accounting for approximately 36% of the 3.24 million jobs initially claimed, according to data from the BLS calculated by the Daily Caller News Foundation”
• 
  
• In July 2024, BLS revised jobs added in May of that year down by 54,000 jobs, and the jobs added in April down by 57,000 jobs.
• 
  
• In April 2024, BLS revised the jobs added in February of that year down — then further revised the number down the following month.
• 
  
• In February 2024, BLS revised the jobs added in December of the prior year down by 43,000 jobs and the jobs added in January of that year down by 124,000 jobs.
• 
  
• Bloomberg, 11/15/24: “Two key Senate Republicans excoriated the US government statistics agency responsible for monthly employment reports, saying recent large-scale revisions to initial figures show its ‘continued failures’ in producing crucial economic data … A preliminary annual revision to the jobs data, made in August, suggested job growth in the 12 months through March will be marked down by more than 800,000 — the largest downward revision since 2009 — making waves in financial markets and on Capitol Hill. The final data is due early next year.”
• 
  
• Bloomberg, 6/6/24: “Data published Wednesday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics suggest payrolls might have grown about 60,000 less per month on average last year than the roughly 250,000 run-rate derived from the agency’s monthly employment report.”
• 
  
• The Heritage Foundation, 5/3/2024: “The BLS provides monthly estimates for the number of nonfarm payrolls across the country through a survey of over 600,000 businesses. According to that data, payrolls increased by 640,000 in the third quarter of last year … But now, the BLS has published its Business Employment Dynamics, or BED, report from that same period, and it shows a drop in private payrolls of 192,000. That’s a mammoth difference of 832,000 for the months of July, August and September.”

During McEntarfer’s tenure, BLS was consistently plagued by technical errors and leaks of sensitive information:

• The Washington Post, 8/28/24: “The Bureau of Labor Statistics said Wednesday that a technical issue caused delays last week in the scheduled release of jobs data that carried major implications for the economy and the presidential election. Outside parties, the BLS said, then got the data because of a lack of communication within the agency over how to respond to public inquiries … The episode is at least the third in a series of missteps this year that critics argue may undermine faith in the agency.”
• 
  
• The Washington Post, 8/28/24: “Last week’s episode involved data closely watched by economists, Wall Street traders, and Federal Reserve officials who are keeping close tabs on employment as they prepare to cut interest rates. The lapse happened just days before the Fed sent its strongest signal yet that it was time to take pressure off the economy, in large part because officials fear that the labor market is softening — so financial markets were anticipating the release even more than usual.”
• 
  
• The Washington Post, 8/28/24: “The job revisions for last year and early 2024 appeared on a government website about a half-hour after their scheduled release time. But despite the delay, a handful of financial firms were able to obtain the information — which showed the largest downward revision to annual job creation in 15 years — before it was posted publicly. The gaffe appeared to run counter to the nonpartisan statistical agency’s long-standing policies intended to prevent individual stakeholders, particularly financial traders, from gaining any edge by ensuring that information is made widely accessible to everyone at the same time.”
• 
  
• House Committee on Education and the Workforce, 12/10/24:
• • “In March [2024], news reports revealed a BLS economist shared nonpublic information with several Wall Street firms.”
  • 
    
  • “On May 15[, 2024], BLS accidentally loaded data files to its website 30 minutes prior to the scheduled release time of the consumer price index.”
  • 
    
  • “On August 21[, 2024], while the public waited for the release of the job numbers, some Wall Street firms got a head start as BLS released the numbers to firms that spoke to the agency by phone, potentially giving them an unfair advantage.”
  • 
    
  • “On August 26[, 2024], Chairwoman Foxx and Health, Employment, Labor, and Pensions Subcommittee Chairman Bob Good (R-VA) called out the Biden-Harris administration for exaggerating job growth when revised BLS numbers proved an overestimate of more than 800,000 jobs.”
  • 
    
  • “On September 25[, 2024], to hold BLS accountable for its inability to ensure data is released uniformly and on time, Foxx and Good demanded answers from the Biden-Harris administration.”
  • 
    
  • “On October 25[, 2024], after BLS ignored the congressional request and additional disturbing reports surfaced in the press about BLS actions the day of the job numbers release on [August 21, 2024], the Committee reupped its oversight inquiry and sent a follow-up letter to BLS.”

And you think this is somehow politically biased?

Or is it what happens when someone is understaffed and underfunded?

 

[Marener]

The head of that department should have been more on the ball. It also appears they have partisans in that agency, just like they did in all of the other agencies. I wonder how much money those leakers got?

What makes you think they are “partisans”?

 

[Delldude]

And you think this is somehow politically biased?

800,000 over estimates more than once? Yes.

Or is it what happens when someone is understaffed and underfunded?

These figures were under your Pedo Joe.

 

[Delldude]

The head of that department should have been more on the ball. It also appears they have partisans in that agency, just like they did in all of the other agencies. I wonder how much money those leakers got?

Most career fed employees are dems.

 

[Marener]

800,000 over estimates more than once? Yes.

The revision was released in August 2024. Trump lied when he said it was after the election.

How did that help Biden and Harris?

 

[imawhosure]

Trump just fired the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics because the jobs report didn’t flatter him…
and now he’s hand-picking a Heritage Foundation loyalist who’s been trashing the agency for years to take over. This isn’t about “honest numbers,” it’s about rigging the scoreboard before the next game.

If you thought government stats were supposed to be nonpartisan, buckle up. we’re about to watch the BLS turned into a propaganda machine.

Trump to nominate longtime skeptic of Bureau of Labor Statistics as new agency head

Trump's naming of conservative economist E.J. Antoni comes after he fired the previous BLS commissioner, claiming without evidence that the July jobs report was "rigged."

www.nbcnews.com

You have to admire the way you project about something you know nothing about, lol. That is the LEFTIST MODUS APERENDI------>tell lies or projections, hope nobody notices that it is OPINION and not fact, and when caught with your pants around your ankles, call a FRIENDLY MOD like DON'T TAZ ME BRO to protect you from the evil conservatives, lolol.

QUESTION---------->If DON'T TAZ ME BRO had a sock.......not saying he/she/zee/dumbshit does, who do you think that would be-)

You want to play guess the sock? PM me-)

 

[Delldude]

The revision was released in August 2024. Trump lied when he said it was after the election.

How did that help Biden and Harris?

Revised downward Nov 2024, days before the election..............

 

[Marener]

Revised downward Nov 2024, days before the election..............

August 21, 2024.

2024 Preliminary Benchmark Revision

2024 Preliminary Benchmark Revision

www.bls.gov

Trump lied when he said it was after the election.

You lied when you said it was days before the election, which is a weird lie because it STILL doesn’t help Biden.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The government lies.

Surprise!

 

[MisterBeale]

The government lies.

Surprise!

Odd how most of the forum agrees with this, but only when their party is not in power.

 

[Delldude]

August 21, 2024.

2024 Preliminary Benchmark Revision

2024 Preliminary Benchmark Revision

www.bls.gov

Trump lied when he said it was after the election.

You lied when you said it was days before the election, which is a weird lie because it STILL doesn’t help Biden.

Hal says you are a liar..........and we already knew that.

• August 2024: The BLS released a preliminary annual revision in August 2024, showing that the US economy added 818,000 fewer jobs than initially reported for the year ended March 2024. This occurred before the 2024 election and was widely reported at the time as reflecting a weaker economy. Trump himself commented negatively on this revision at the time, notes the AP.
• 
  
• November 2024: Just days before the election, the final jobs report for October showed a significant slowdown in hiring, adding only 12,000 workers to nonfarm payrolls. This was the smallest monthly gain in nearly four years at that time, and Trump used it to criticize his opponents.
• 
  
• February 2025: Months after the election, the final benchmark revision was released, revising hiring down by 598,000, lower than the preliminary figure from August 2024. The Houston Chronicle states that the BLS attributed this difference between the initial and final revisions to information received from US tax returns.

 

[Marener]

• August 2024: The BLS released a preliminary annual revision in August 2024, showing that the US economy added 818,000 fewer jobs than initially reported for the year ended March 2024. This occurred before the 2024 election and was widely reported at the time as reflecting a weaker economy. Trump himself commented negatively on this revision at the time, notes the AP.

This is exactly what I said. Trump lied. You lied.

November 2024: Just days before the election, the final jobs report for October showed a significant slowdown in hiring, adding only 12,000 workers to nonfarm payrolls. This was the smallest monthly gain in nearly four years at that time, and Trump used it to criticize his opponents.

You’ll notice that’s not a revision. That’s just the regular jobs report coming out when jobs reports usually come out. You’ll also notice it’s a bad jobs report released days before the election.

It was also revised up the next month.

So you lied again.

February 2025: Months after the election, the final benchmark revision was released, revising hiring down by 598,000, lower than the preliminary figure from August 2024. The Houston Chronicle states that the BLS attributed this difference between the initial and final revisions to information received from US tax returns.

Taken together, it’s completely impossible to see this as an attempt to help Biden. If that were your frame of mind, you’d assume they were trying to hurt him.

 

[Delldude]

You lied when you said it was days before the election

• November 2024: Just days before the election, the final jobs report for October showed a significant slowdown in hiring, adding only 12,000 workers to nonfarm payrolls. This was the smallest monthly gain in nearly four years at that time, and Trump used it to criticize his opponents.

Trump lied when he said it was after the election.

February 2025: Months after the election, the final benchmark revision was released, revising hiring down by 598,000, lower than the preliminary figure from August 2024. The Houston Chronicle states that the BLS attributed this difference between the initial and final revisions to information received from US tax returns.

So you lied again.

You’ll also notice it’s a bad jobs report released days before the election.

Dude, you need help for mental issues..................that's not up for argument, liar.

 

[Marener]

November 2024: Just days before the election, the final jobs report for October showed a significant slowdown in hiring, adding only 12,000 workers to nonfarm payrolls. This was the smallest monthly gain in nearly four years at that time, and Trump used it to criticize his opponents.

That’s not a revision.

February 2025: Months after the election, the final benchmark revision was released, revising hiring down by 598,000, lower than the preliminary figure from August 2024. The Houston Chronicle states that the BLS attributed this difference between the initial and final revisions to information received from US tax returns.

That’s not 800,000 jobs.

Explain how any of these items helps Biden or Harris. They don’t. You’re full of shit.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

What makes you think they are “partisans”?

The Socratic debate method?

 

[Delldude]

Explain how any of these items helps Biden or Harris. They don’t. You’re full of shit.

LOL.......never said it did or didn't.

You made several blatant lies about what Trump said at several different times, I just showed how you were pedaling outright lies, as usual.

 

[Marener]

You made several blatant lies about what Trump said at several different times, I just showed how you were pedaling outright lies, as usual.

He’s proof he lied.

Trump twists timeline of BLS job data revision

To justify firing the head of the nonpartisan Bureau of Labor Statistics, President Donald Trump has said several times that the agency withheld data unfavorable to President Joe Biden until it was too late to affect voting in 2024. He’s wrong.

www.politifact.com

Can you admit it?