Read The Supreme Court Ruling On Presidential Immunity

[Dante]

Time enough has passed and reality is starting to break through the media shit storm -- we get what I've been talking about:

Trump wasn’t exonerated by the presidential immunity ruling, even though he says he was​

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday misrepresented in a social media post what the U.S. Supreme Court’s Monday ruling on presidential immunity means for his civil and criminal cases.

“TOTAL EXONERATION!” he wrote in the post on his Truth Social platform. “It is clear that the Supreme Court’s Brilliantly Written and Historic Decision ENDS all of Crooked Joe Biden’s Witch Hunts against me, including the WHITE HOUSE AND DOJ INSPIRED CIVIL HOAXES in New York.”

But none of Trump’s pending cases have been dismissed as a result of the ruling, nor have the verdicts already reached against him been overturned. The ruling does amount to a major victory for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, whose legal strategy has focused on delaying court proceedings until after the 2024 election.

Here’s a closer look at the facts.

FACT FOCUS: Trump wasn’t exonerated by the presidential immunity ruling, even though he says he was

 

[Dante]

I provided the entire decision......maybe read it if you wish to argue your point. Sorry if reality hurts your feelings.

I started this thread. Links to the decision are in the Opening Post

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Legal counsel wouldn't go along or they would quit.

They did not during his attempt to steal the election.

Just like Joe Biden and his memory? Bet that doesn't count.

Pretty much the same thing, though I am not sure Biden's doctor said he had the best memory of any president ever. Do you have a link to that?

Only in your head. Immediate congressional investigations.

Again, history says they will. Ask Rudy

 

[Delldude]

Leaving out words changes meanings.

bye

No words left out, liar.

If anyone distorted the facts, my man......it is you.

Taking your football and going home?

 

[Delldude]

I started this thread. Links to the decision are in the Opening Post

So you should have known what I was referring to then....like I said, I gave you credit for having read your own OP.....

The first and third paragraphs of the opinion and you didn't have a clue .....

 

[frigidweirdo]

There are two issues. One is how the decision affects the Trump current and future prosecutions, and the already decided cases.

The second issue is the decision itself and how it affects the Office of the Presidency, and in effect the Executive branch of government.

Much of what to me is of most interest and concern (not alarm), is how most of what is being written about and argued in media has yet to be tested in the courts. I suspect that at some future date the decision will be revisited and amended if not challenged as being constitutionally valid.

I have long held an opinion of being for a strong and robust Executive. What that means exactly would fill a whole nother thread,.

Dante

And people can see how it will impact future presidencies. And it isn't pretty.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Super powers are not Empires. And if they strive to be, fate awaits them. The world has crossed Bill Clinton's Bridge to the 21st Century.

Doesn't really matter. Superpowers are going to same way empires did. Power corrupts.

 

[Dante]

Motion To Dismiss Indictment Based on Presidential Immunity in No. 1 :23-cr-00257 (DC) , ECF Doc. 74, p. 9.

Trump argued that all of the indictment's allegations fell within the core of his official duties. Id. , at 27. And he contended that a President has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions performed within the outer perimeter of his official responsibilities, to ensure that he can undertake the especially sensitive duties of his office with bold and unhesitating action. Id. , at 14, 24.

No words left out, liar.

If anyone distorted the facts, my man......it is you.

Taking your football and going home?

Your comments with supposed quotations of exact wording:

Trump moved to dismiss the indictment
based on Presidential immunity, arguing that a President has absolute
immunity from criminal prosecution for actions performed within the
outer perimeter of his official responsibilities, and that the indict-
ment’s allegations fell within the core of his official duties

and btw: "The District Court denied the motion to dismiss, holding that “former Presidents do not possess absolute federal criminal immunity for any acts committed while in office." and the Roberts' opinion does not disagree there.

 

[Dante]

Doesn't really matter. Superpowers are going to same way empires did. Power corrupts.

Yes and no.

Super powers are what they are. They are not all that alike to Empires

 

[Dante]

And people can see how it will impact future presidencies. And it isn't pretty.

Not "will" but can - possibly.

 

[Dante]

So you should have known what I was referring to then....like I said, I gave you credit for having read your own OP.....

The first and third paragraphs of the opinion and you didn't have a clue .....

The problem is you are trying to score points. I have been trying to discuss the opinion. I have no urge or desire to try and turn a discussion of such a momentous decision into a pissing contest.

have a good day Mr. Dead-from-the-neck-up.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

So is he going to run it by lawyers like Rudy and Eastman?

Sorry. Rudy’s out .

 

[Delldude]

and btw: "The District Court denied the motion to dismiss, holding that “former Presidents do not possess absolute federal criminal immunity for any acts committed while in office." and the Roberts' opinion does not disagree there.

No kidding..............the tickler that you keep leaving out was 'official acts' as affirmed in the SCOTUS decision. So who is distorting the facts now, clown man?

The problem is you are trying to score points. I have been trying to discuss the opinion.

Not interested in scoring points, only pointing out you have been caught distorting the facts for your own political gain.

I have no urge or desire to try and turn a discussion of such a momentous decision into a pissing contest.

Maybe try and report the facts instead of distorting them for your own wanky pulling pleasure.

OBTW- bet you haven't realized that your page 32 waa-waa was about Trump claiming immunity for having criminal charges filed after being acquitted of charges during impeachment. He was no longer president. However, in an official act, Trump was answering and defending Himself in an impeachment, and being acquitted, then charged after leaving office, most likely falls under the immunity finding.

Suck it up *****.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Doesn't really matter. Superpowers are going to same way empires did. Power corrupts.

Seems so.
Seems there’s a limit to the human quest for power where it turns counter productive and becomes destructive unto itself.

Who knew?

It’s not like anyone has warned of such pitfalls.

 

[Dante]

No kidding..............the tickler that you keep leaving out was 'official acts'

Nope. Mentioned in my comments.

Again, as I've said,
The problem is you are trying to score points. I have been trying to discuss the opinion. I have no urge or desire to try and turn a discussion of such a momentous decision into a pissing contest.

have a good day Mr. Dead-from-the-neck-up.

 

[Delldude]

Nope. Mentioned in my comments.

Again, as I've said,
The problem is you are trying to score points. I have been trying to discuss the opinion. I have no urge or desire to try and turn a discussion of such a momentous decision into a pissing contest.

have a good day Mr. Dead-from-the-neck-up.

You've proven yourself wrong several times now..................and can't prove me wrong.

Pro Crusties done f**ked up.

 

[Dante]

You've proven yourself wrong several times now..................and can't prove me wrong.

Pro Crusties done f**ked up.

have a good day Mr. Dead-from-the-neck-up.

 

[Delldude]

have a good day Mr. Dead-from-the-neck-up.

And you can't stop replying.......LOL

Sorry if I showed you are a liar....................

 

[Delldude]

Kinda neat, call out Pro Crusties and he gets mad and goes away.

 

[Dante]

Kinda neat, call out Pro Crusties and he gets mad and goes away.

I know you get to keep people playing attention to you by trolling and playing games. It's okay. If that is what toots your horn?

go for it

just stop reaching out to me