Read 'em and weep: President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill approaches final vote

[BluesLegend]

Pelosi has to be FUMING at this point. Her nemesis has defeated her.

 

[Rigby5]

What’s bad in the bill?

The $2 trillion deficit.
The unnecessary military spending.
The health care cuts.
ICE increases that not only harm rights, but increase our chances of SS default and national bankruptcy.

 

[Rigby5]

Please tell me the BBB GUTS funding for asshole NPR? Did you know those lying A holes were still broadcasting that the Iran strikes would only set Iran back a few months, last Sunday long after that shit was debunked. Spending MY money to f'ing broadcast those lies.

Obviously Iran knew all about bunker busters, so tunneled deep enough and sideways enough so that they were immune to bunker busters.
It is impossible for the bunker busters to have caused any harm at all except to the distant entrances.

 

[Rigby5]

Tell us how it hurts us

In creasing the SALT cap means we have to spend more on useless weapons.

 

[BluesLegend]

Obviously Iran knew all about bunker busters, so tunneled deep enough and sideways enough so that they were immune to bunker busters.
It is impossible for the bunker busters to have caused any harm at all except to the distant entrances.

Riiiiight, where's your proof?

 

[jc456]

In creasing the SALT cap means we have to spend more on useless weapons.

For fk sake, tds

 

[Rigby5]

You failed to list anything that anyone was getting for free.

The main golden goose is military spending, that has always been highly inflated and yet actually totally unproductive and useless.
And example would be weapons only good for aggression, like bombers, aircraft carriers, hypersonics, etc.
Its the old $1000 toilet type padding.

 

[Rigby5]

What are we getting for free?

It is paid by the tax payers, so not "free" to us.
It is only "free" to the contractors who bilk us for bogus military spending.

 

[Rigby5]

You failed to list anything that anyone was getting for free.

Contractors who contributed to campaigns aways like excessive military spending that gives them free money.

 

[BluesLegend]

It's gloating time, hey Dems...

 

[Rigby5]

Riiiiight, where's your proof?

About 20 years ago I watched videos by Iran showing how foolish our threats were, since they not only can easily tunnel down deep enough to be invulnerable, but then they can also tunnel sideways in any direction or distance.
Since they put out this video, they obviously then are not going to build their enrichment facilities right under their entrances, and are not going to stop tunneling too soon.
I don't need more proof than that, since it would be essentially insane for them not to have made these sites invulnerable. It is so trivial to do.

 

[BluesLegend]

About 20 years ago I watched videos by Iran showing how foolish our threats were

You watched videos, 20 years ago, before bunker busters were developed...interesting.

 

[Rigby5]

For fk sake, tds

Sorry.
I assumed SALT was Strategic Arms Limitation Talks.
So I looked it up.
{...
Recent proposals aim to raise the SALT (State and Local Tax) deduction cap from $10,000 to $30,000 for households earning up to $400,000, amidst ongoing legislative negotiations.
...}
And I see nothing wrong with allowing people to write off taxes from what is then considered taxable profit.
If you do not allow taxes to be written off 100%, then you are essentially double taxing, which is illegal.

 

[jc456]

The main golden goose is military spending, that has always been highly inflated and yet actually totally unproductive and useless.
And example would be weapons only good for aggression, like bombers, aircraft carriers, hypersonics, etc.
Its the old $1000 toilet type padding.

Tds

 

[Rigby5]

You watched videos, 20 years ago, before bunker busters were developed...interesting.

Wrong.
Bunker busters were started in WWII in order to try to knock out the German submarine pens in Normandy.
And were a total failure.
The current bunder busters are not new, and more than 20 years old.

If you read up on Iran's enrichment facilities, they are intentionally in mountain areas that are solid rock, in order to greatly inhibit bunker busters.

 

[BluesLegend]

Wrong.
Bunker busters were started in WWII in order to try to knock out the German submarine pens in Normandy.
And were a total failure.
The current bunder busters are not new, and more than 20 years old.

If you read up on Iran's enrichment facilities, they are intentionally in mountain areas that are solid rock, in order to greatly inhibit bunker busters.

Tell us, did your roommates at the time you watched these videos claim to be Napolean and George Washington?

 

[leftwinger]

[/QUOTE]

Sorry.
I assumed SALT was Strategic Arms Limitation Talks.
So I looked it up.
{...
Recent proposals aim to raise the SALT (State and Local Tax) deduction cap from $10,000 to $30,000 for households earning up to $400,000, amidst ongoing legislative negotiations.
...}
And I see nothing wrong with allowing people to write off taxes from what is then considered taxable profit.
If you do not allow taxes to be written off 100%, then you are essentially double taxing, which is illegal.

The STD deduction is over $30K married joint now. You need high property and income to reach that level. So those are elite coastal DEMs mostly, they get a small amount more? Is it worth the hassle itemizing?

SALT is State & local taxes...not military.

 

[Rigby5]

They're the ones whose 401k and retirement plans are so dependent on a good market.

No one should put a retirement plan into a volatile and unpredictable entity like the stock market.
It is so easy to do a self-directed IRA LLC instead.
I invest entirely in real estate, and all you have to do is put in a down payment.
Essentially the renters buy you the properties.
And then they appreciate more than 10% annually as well.
Think about that.
If you put down $10k on a $100k property, in 40 years it will be worth 16 times more, (2 to the 4th), and you can sell it for $1.6 million.

 

[dblack]

Anyone here read the whole bill?

 

[Rigby5]

Tell us, did your roommates at the time you watched these videos claim to be Napolean and George Washington?

This is trivially simple.
Once the Iranians tunnel down below the surface, there is absolutely no way to know in which direction or distance Iran then continued tunneling before making their enrichment facilities.
So clearly is has to be impossible for the US to have been able to hit any actual enrichment facility.