Randy Weaver, R.I.P. Ruby Ridge is not Forgotten

[Rigby5]

The federal police are not police? Why do you guys want to defund the police?

There are not supposed to be any federal police.
They are not authorized by the Constitution.
The DEA, BATF, Homeland Security, etc. are all totally illegal.
That also applies to the FDA and CDC.
If we want federal health agencies, we need to make an amendment for them.

 

[Rigby5]

The shotguns?

Yes, I know they were illegal...



That may be your opinion, but your opinion doesn't matter. The law stated differently.

What Weaver should've done was surrender. He chose to fight, though, and his family was killed as a direct result of that decision...

Wrong.
He was asked to cut down a shotgun barrel to 17.75", which is perfectly legal.
The barrel could have been used for something like avalanche control for all he knew.
Or before assembly, a muzzle choke could have been threaded on.
Doing the cutting is not at all illegal.

And he did try to surrender.
The FBI started the shooting, killing his wife who was just holding the door open.
She was unarmed.

 

[Canon Shooter]

He was asked to cut down a shotgun barrel to 17.75", which is perfectly legal.

Really? That's interesting, especially when you consider that Weaver was found guilty of the original weapons charge, which was the attempted sale of two illegally sawed off shotguns...

The barrel could have been used for something like avalanche control for all he knew.

He was asked to cut down a shotgun barrel to 17.75", which is perfectly legal.

Avalanche control is a science.

Weaver never really struck me as a "scientist" kinda' guy:

And he did try to surrender.

Really? And at what point did that occur?

No, in fact he refused to surrender to the Marshals serving the arrest warrant. He didn't surrender until three days into the incident.

The warrant for his arrest was due to his failure to appear. He knew he was required to be in court and he blew it off; his choice. Well, choices have consequences, and his consequences proved to be dire. Had Weaver surrendered, his son wouldn't have been killed. His wife wouldn't have been killed. But his refusal to surrender set in motion a series of events which resulted in the deaths of his family members...

The FBI started the shooting, killing his wife who was just holding the door open.

Do you just make this shit up as you go along?

The first shots fired that day were at US Marshals, as they surveyed the property, by Kevin Harris and Weaver's son Sammy...

She was unarmed.

Yeah, that sucks. But given the fact that the Weaver's were armed and engaged in hostilities towards authorities, it's not surprising. You know, she could've surrendered, as well, but chose not to.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...