Rand Paul doubles down on big, beautiful bill criticism after Trump slam

[Billiejeens]

Ok prove your statement using the past three cuts. If I’m not mistaken, all three led to increased revenue to the treasury.

They all do, always.
(there is a point where that would not happen, but we aren't close yet.)

 

[mudwhistle]

Cutting taxes...does not increase revenues....unless you cook the books (2017) and then bring all that money back home only to invest it in stock buybacks...whew....

Cutting taxes increases revenues in more than one way.
#1 is by giving us more of our own money to increase consumer spending, which helps increase jobs in THIS country. Not overseas, which causes the economy and the GDP to increase.
When government keeps more of our money, they only help the economy when they spend it inside the USA.
But when they're constantly send our money overseas, they essentially hurt our economy by helping foreign country's economies.
That's how economics works, or didn't you learn that in school?

 

[mudwhistle]

Ron Paul was the biggest fraud ever.

He just stands in the way of bill passage to get favors for KY.

There comes a time when all you're doing is getting in the way of progress.
That's Rand Paul's specialty.

 

[mudwhistle]

It would if not for never ending debt ceiling increases and the corresponding kabuki theater.

That's beside the point.

I think DOGE proved that the more money you give congress, the more money they waste on stupid shit that does nothing to improve the economy.

 

[Marener]

Ok prove your statement using the past three cuts. If I’m not mistaken, all three led to increased revenue to the treasury.

Tax revenue goes up basically every year, doesn’t it?

 

[pknopp]

Tax revenue goes up basically every year, doesn’t it?

As the Fed pumps more into the economy, revenue follows.

 

[Marener]

As the Fed pumps more into the economy, revenue follows.

That’s not the only reason the economy grows, obviously.

 

[Edgetho]

One thing is certain....Rand Paul won't be moved on this issue.
The more Trump trashes him, the more energy he gets:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5330468-rand-paul-doubles-down-on-big-beautiful-bill-criticism-after-trump-slam/

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) doubled down on his objections to President Trump’s House-passed “big, beautiful bill” in Tuesday comments.

Paul said he strongly opposes raising the debt ceiling, which would be hiked by $4 trillion under the current legislation. Lawmakers have speculated the increase could cause debt to swell by $30 trillion over the next decade.

“I want to see the tax cuts made permanent, but I also want to see the $5 trillion in new debt removed from the bill. At least 4 of us in the Senate feel this way,” Paul wrote in a Tuesday morning post on the social platform X.

Republicans have a majority in the upper chamber but can only afford to have three defections to ensure the bill’s passage.

Paul, alongside Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), Rick Scott (R-Fla.) and Mike Lee(R-Utah), has urged his colleagues to cut down on spending allotments to rein in the country’s debt.

This is one reason why I despise Liberturdians. They don't even understand what it is.

Did you ever wonder how we got to this sad state of affairs? Why we have disgusting human beings like The Bastard Son of Frank Marshall Davis, Sponge Brains Shits Pants, Bill The Rapist Clinton and Ubercvnt running the dimocrap/media party?

Simple. We had a weak POTUS one time named George HW Bush who made a silly promise, "Read My Lips, No New Taxes" and it was used against him when we had to send troops to the ME to protect our National Security interests in the Oil Fields. Desert Storm. Remember?

He got held up in Congress by dimocrap scum because he needed authorization and tax money to do it. dimocrap scum wouldn't authorize it unless he allowed them to raise taxes on The American People.

He caved. He shouldn't have, but he did. If it had been me, I would have dared dimocrap scum to abandon our troops in Saudi Arabia. Wonder how Americans would like that?? Not to mention the troops. They have guns. Big ones.

Anyway, Bush caved and his political opponents used it against him. Ross The Insane Pirogi had a personal dislike for Bush because of something to do with the Iran Hostage situation (another dimocrap scumbag FUCK UP) so he rain against him in the General Election.

The Insane Pirogi had no, ZERO, chance of winning but he COULD derail Bush. And he did. He took enough votes away from Bush to let Bill The Rapist Clinton and his totally worthless, complete piece of human ShIT, Ubercunt to ascend to an Office they had no business occupying.

The Insane Pirogi gave us Billary, who gave us The bastard Son of Frank Marshall Davis, who gave us Sponge Brains Shits Pants who gave us the FUCKING MESS we have today. It's called a 'cascade event'

Thank you very much Liberturdians. Bang Up job.

The very last person we should listen to -- Ever. About anything. Ever. Is a liberturdian. Or even the son of one.

Make The Perfect the enemy of The Good is stupid beyond belief. Rand Paul qualifies. He should go back to being a Pill Pusher

 

[j-mac]

Tax revenue goes up basically every year, doesn’t it?

I’m talking about revenue to the treasury. You’re trying to be clever without addressing my question to you.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Because the rich invest their money back into the economy which keads to more tax revenue

As do the poor and middle class. Yet its the middle class that get hit with taxes.

 

[Mac-7]

As do the poor and middle class. Yet its the middle class that get hit with taxes.

The poor and middle class bless their hearts can only use their money to consume

The wealthy have enough to invest in new products and jobs

 

[Marener]

I’m talking about revenue to the treasury. You’re trying to be clever without addressing my question to you.

Yes. I’m talking about revenue to the treasury too.

It goes up every year. The GDP grows. The population grows. Inflation grows. Every year tax revenue goes up.

How can you say a tax cut made revenue go up when it goes up every year anyway?

 

[Billiejeens]

I’m talking about revenue to the treasury. You’re trying to be clever without addressing my question to you.

Marener is a very dishonest poster

 

[Zincwarrior]

The poor and middle class bless their hearts can only use their money to consume

The wealthy have enough to invest in new products and jobs

The Middle Class can't save and invest in your world? Probably because they are taxed by the wealthy.

 

[kyzr]

Tax cuts don’t lead to greater revenue. It’s a myth you’ve been told.

Actually its a lie. When you borrow more to juice the economy to get more revenue you say its because of the tax cuts, when actually its due to more borrowing.

 

[Marener]

Actually its a lie. When you borrow more to juice the economy to get more revenue you say its because of the tax cuts, when actually its due to more borrowing.

This is childish. You’re borrowing more because you cut taxes and have less revenue. Deficit spending indeed juices the economy which is a big reason why everyone is afraid to stop doing it.

 

[kyzr]

Cutting taxes increases revenues in more than one way.
#1 is by giving us more of our own money to increase consumer spending, which helps increase jobs in THIS country. Not overseas, which causes the economy and the GDP to increase.
When government keeps more of our money, they only help the economy when they spend it inside the USA.
But when they're constantly send our money overseas, they essentially hurt our economy by helping foreign country's economies. That's how economics works, or didn't you learn that in school?

Cutting taxes just to borrow more is good politics but it is terrible economics, that is how we got a $36T Debt.
Cutting taxes only raises revenue if there is more borrowing.

 

[kyzr]

This is childish. You’re borrowing more because you cut taxes and have less revenue. Deficit spending indeed juices the economy which is a big reason why everyone is afraid to stop doing it.

True, but the bond rating agencies keep downgrading US debt.
Soon the dollar will collapse and then we'll all see what all that borrowing got us.

 

[j-mac]

Yes. I’m talking about revenue to the treasury too.

It goes up every year. The GDP grows. The population grows. Inflation grows. Every year tax revenue goes up.

How can you say a tax cut made revenue go up when it goes up every year anyway?

Well, some of that is true enough, it's not entirely true. Tax tables do go up, and from the middle, we always end up it seems paying more. BUT, In the world of those who have deductions, and stimulate the economy through investment, They're more likely to pay instead of looking for ways to legally hide the money....

Either way, tax cuts, especially to the middle, have positive benefits, with no detraction to revenues.

 

[Mac-7]

The Middle Class can't save and invest in your world? Probably because they are taxed by the wealthy.

They can and should but they need most of their income for current needs

The rich have enough money to impress in risky new ideas