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never fear willow, with your proven skills, you will never go hungry, right slut?
what has my being a slut have to do with revolution?? dingdong?
oh when and if it starts you will never go hungry because you will either blow or screw your way into a free meal, but only in a conservative way don't you know, Perfect LOL
I am one of the fortunate ones, in that I am 66 and can still work at a strenous job in a steel mill.
I am one of the fortunate ones, in that I am 66 and can still work at a strenous job in a steel mill.
I am one of the unfortunate ones, as I do not have a steel mill in my town in which to work.
And rightfully so, as they were robbed their entire working life of that money.Kex, bingo - especially now- the baby boomers who are retiring or about to retire would be on them like stink on shit
Yes, absolutely. No question about it.
The age should be raised to 72 or 75. Maybe not this year, but gradually over the next 10 years.
This has to happen. The country has literally tens of trillions of dollars of liabilities for government programs, including social security. Eventually, social security will go bankrupt if it isn't dramatically reformed. And the easiest way to reform it is to raise the retirement age.
Toro, do you have any estimates for how much raising the retirement age would save the budget?
Yes. It would be a good idea for two reason. One, it would save money. Two, it would keep people in the job force...and since we as a country are upside down in terms of population age (more old than young) in the long run this would be helpful.Would you support raising the retirement age to collect social security benefits?
If so, to what age?
what if your job is a physical one that tears your ankles and knees and back down.....and doing that job when you are 70 is kinda unrealistic?.....
Its unrealistic at 60 too, isn't it?
EDIT - I get it. I know that physical labor is hard. But the current system simply is not sustainable. It must be reformed.
You see Toro what you don't understand is that Americans BELIEVE in the "Get Rich QUICK scheme" They always have and they ALWAYS WILL. For FAR TOO MANY 8% won't be enough they will WANT and will be PROMISED 12% and you KNOW what will happen to those people. They will hit 75 and find out they have NOTHING and you will have LOTS of old people DYING in the streets! Knowing this do you think privatizing is such a good idea?
No, do not raise the retirement age.
Make all income liable to the 6.2% Social Security tax that comes out of my paycheck. Then you do not need to raise the retirement age.
I am one of the fortunate ones, in that I am 66 and can still work at a strenous job in a steel mill. Most of my peers cannot do that because of the natural aging process.
The very wealthy gained that wealth on the backs of the men that actually man the factory floor. They will not miss a single meal for having to pay the same tax that I do. And they insure their own security. One might remember that this is a rather well armed nation on an individual basis, and if the people see the very wealthy still living high on the hog when the rest are fighting for food and a roof over their head, there will be some "up against the wall" actions. Review the reasons behind the French and Bolshevik Revolutions.
After reading through this nuttiness. I'd actually want to see any of your representatives try and raise the retirement age requirement. So we can see all the fiscal conservatives and the idiots who are about to lose their seat.
Yes, absolutely. No question about it.
The age should be raised to 72 or 75. Maybe not this year, but gradually over the next 10 years.
This has to happen. The country has literally tens of trillions of dollars of liabilities for government programs, including social security. Eventually, social security will go bankrupt if it isn't dramatically reformed. And the easiest way to reform it is to raise the retirement age.
Toro, do you have any estimates for how much raising the retirement age would save the budget?
Sorry to burst the bubble...but it wouldn't save the budget a damn dime...in fact it would cause more deficits. The EXCESS money collected by Social Security is "borrowed" from the SSA and placed in the general fund to be spent as Congress sees fit.....which means more of the same ol' stuff we see happening today.
and in case anyone's wondering the full retirement age HAS been raised already on people born in 1961 and above, incrementally like the posters here suggested. At 62 people born after 1960 collect REDUCED benefits. It's no longer 62/65 for them.
Toro, do you have any estimates for how much raising the retirement age would save the budget?
Sorry to burst the bubble...but it wouldn't save the budget a damn dime...in fact it would cause more deficits. The EXCESS money collected by Social Security is "borrowed" from the SSA and placed in the general fund to be spent as Congress sees fit.....which means more of the same ol' stuff we see happening today.
and in case anyone's wondering the full retirement age HAS been raised already on people born in 1961 and above, incrementally like the posters here suggested. At 62 people born after 1960 collect REDUCED benefits. It's no longer 62/65 for them.
I think the Feds owe the SS about 3 trillion that they have spent on other things.
That is one of the biggest issues with SS. The govt not wanting to qay the money back.
And I believe they will have to start paying it back in about 10 years or so.
Yes, absolutely. No question about it.
The age should be raised to 72 or 75. Maybe not this year, but gradually over the next 10 years.
This has to happen. The country has literally tens of trillions of dollars of liabilities for government programs, including social security. Eventually, social security will go bankrupt if it isn't dramatically reformed. And the easiest way to reform it is to raise the retirement age.
what if your job is a physical one that tears your ankles and knees and back down.....and doing that job when you are 70 is kinda unrealistic?.....
Its unrealistic at 60 too, isn't it?
EDIT - I get it. I know that physical labor is hard. But the current system simply is not sustainable. It must be reformed.