Racism: The biggest fraud ever?

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I'm 65 years old. I met exactly 2 white supremacist's in my entire life. 2. That is it, 2. The bigger issue is: Imaginary monsters under the bed that the liberals use to justify their far larger hate of whites to validate their anti white pogroms and anti truth censorship.

I guess you've never taken a philosophy class? Contrary to what you believe you are not the center of the earth, everything does not revolve around you, and lack of evidence of something is not evidence that the something doesn't exist.

In other words, your 'personal anecdotal experiences' count for little to nothing as proof of the existence or non-existence of racism nor white supremacy.

Can you even define fraud? And what in your mind distinguishes a garden variety white racist from a white supremacist?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The USA was created to be and continues to be a place ruled by White Supremacy.
Read our Constitution if you don't believe me.

And the declaration of causes as to why Texas seceded from the Union:

Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated States to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility [sic] and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings.​

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She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery--the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits--a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. [snipped]​

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We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."​

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DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC​

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[Lisa558]

The USA was created to be and continues to be a place ruled by White Supremacy.
Read our Constitution if you don't believe me.

OMG. The more extreme your comments, the more ridiculous you sound.

There are very few White Supremacists, and they are on the fringe with no power. If we are ruled by White Supremacy, then why are 2/3rds of black students admitted to colleges they wouldn’t ordinarily qualify for, but are ushered in due to their race, while whites with much superior scores and grades are rejected to make room for lesser qualified blacks?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

OMG. The more extreme your comments, the more ridiculous you sound.

There are very few White Supremacists, and they are on the fringe with no power.

What do you call a person who believes black people are inferior to whites?

The whole state of Texas left the Union (among others) because they weren't being allowed to freely engage in their white supremacy beliefs and practices

Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated States to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility [sic] and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings.​

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She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery--the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits--a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. [snipped]​

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We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."​

DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC​

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[Lisa558]

What do you call a person who believes black people are inferior to whites?

a racist.

and to your stuff below, you’re back to history. We are talking about NOW. The fact that you all have to keep going back to historical racism shows how it doesn’t exist anymore, and hasn’t for generations, on a systemic level.

The whole state of Texas left the Union (among others) because they weren't being allowed to freely engage in their white supremacy beliefs and practices

Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated States to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility [sic] and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings.​

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She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery--the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits--a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. [snipped]​

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We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."​

DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC​

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[Ms. Turquoise]

I guess so. Were you trying to make a point?

Yes, I am making a point. White on White crime needs to be discussed more. Especially when it's on a large scale like the Russia/Ukraine issue.

 

[Lisa558]

Yes, I am making a point. White on White crime needs to be discussed more. Especially when it's on a large scale like the Russia/Ukraine issue.

Black on black crime needs to be recognized as the main cause of black murders, and stop making a big lie about the white police. The BLM instigated billions of dollars of damage, dozens of murders, arson, assault, etc., through hundreds of cities for months on end, virtually ignoring where the real problem lies: the black underclass killing each other.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

a racist.

and to your stuff below, you’re back to history. We are talking about NOW. The fact that you all have to keep going back to historical racism shows how it doesn’t exist anymore, and hasn’t for generations, on a systemic level.

Racism and White Supremacy do still exist. Your self imposed blinders prevent you from seeing it.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

Black on black crime needs to be recognized as the main cause of black murders, and stop making a big lie about the white police. The BLM instigated billions of dollars of damage, dozens of murders, arson, assault, etc., through hundreds of cities for months on end, virtually ignoring where the real problem lies: the black underclass killing each other.

You don't even make sense. Please think about what you are saying before you post it.
Thank you.

 

[Lisa558]

Racism and White Supremacy do still exist. Your self imposed blinders prevent you from seeing it.

OK, and antisemitism exists too - perhaps to an even greater degree. You don’t hear us wailing about unfair treatment. We focus on things like getting a good education, not having babies before marriage, getting good jobs, and making a success of our lives. And we are doing that WITHOUT the benefit of Affirmative Action that would give us favoritism over better-qualified candidates.

You have a big problem with the black underclass. The videos of blacks looting, smashing jewelry store counters, and walking out with TVs, hooping and hollering like it’s a block party, isn’t helping negative attitudes toward blacks. Neither are these random assaults against Orthodox Jews, Asians, and that poor woman on the subway.

You’d do your people better by concentrating on correcting that behavior with stiff jail time, and yet the left is going in the opposite direction - making shoplifting OK, reducing felonies to misdemeanors, reducing bond for violent behavior, everything to make it EASIER for blacks to commit crimes.

You really need to admit that the black subclass is not immune from criticism when they behave so abysmally.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

OK, and antisemitism exists too - perhaps to an even greater degree. You don’t hear us wailing about unfair treatment. We focus on things like getting a good education, not having babies before marriage, getting good jobs, and making a success of our lives. And we are doing that WITHOUT the benefit of Affirmative Action that would give us favoritism over better-qualified candidates.

You have a big problem with the black underclass. The videos of blacks looting, smashing jewelry store counters, and walking out with TVs, hooping and hollering like it’s a block party, isn’t helping negative attitudes toward blacks. Neither are these random assaults against Orthodox Jews, Asians, and that poor woman on the subway.

You’d do your people better by concentrating on correcting that behavior with stiff jail time, and yet the left is going in the opposite direction - making shoplifting OK, reducing felonies to misdemeanors, reducing bond for violent behavior, everything to make it EASIER for blacks to commit crimes.

You really need to admit that the black subclass is not immune from criticism when they behave so abysmally.

Your ignorance and racist attitude has earned you a place on my IGNORE list.
Enjoy!

 

[Lisa558]

Your ignorance and racist attitude has earned you a place on my IGNORE list.
Enjoy!

Nothing racist about pointing out the bad behavior of the black subclass. Are we not allowed to criticize ANYTHING criminals do if they’re black?

You keep screaming racism and ignore the very behavior among the black subclass that is leading to negative attitudes. The fact is that 13% of the population is committing more than half the violent crime, and stating so is not racist.

 

[Lisa558]

When leftists race in to defend black criminals by yelling “racist” at any anyone who points out that there is indeed a problem among the black underclass, they are emboldening the criminal behavior. In a way, it’s almost like giving you permission by saying, don’t worry….any whites who complain about your behavior will be put in their place.

And let’s not forget the Baltimore mayor’s instructions to the police to let the thugs “have space to destroy.” That’s out-and-out permission.

 

[task0778]

Yes, I am making a point. White on White crime needs to be discussed more. Especially when it's on a large scale like the Russia/Ukraine issue.

Okay, tell me what white on white crime has to do with racism. Cuz I'm not seeing whatever you're talking about.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

Okay, tell me what white on white crime has to do with racism. Cuz I'm not seeing whatever you're talking about.

The person I was responding to had mentioned Black on Black crime. So, I asked if Vladimir Putin attacking Ukraine was White on White crime.

 

[AZrailwhale]

What do you call a person who believes black people are inferior to whites?

The whole state of Texas left the Union (among others) because they weren't being allowed to freely engage in their white supremacy beliefs and practices

Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated States to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility [sic] and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings.​

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She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery--the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits--a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. [snipped]​

[snipped]​

We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."​

DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC​

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Every single person alive in the western world in 1860 absolutely KNEW that all minorities were inferior to whites. They were as sure of that as they were that the sky was blue and they breathed air. Even the most rabid abolitionist was absolutely sure that blacks were inferior to whites. Abolitionists just thought slavery was wrong and wanted it ended. Almost all people of all races now believe that the races are equal in intelligence and ability and both failures and extreme successes are the result of personal decisions and individual abilities.
Only idealogues on both extremes believe differently, you, Paul, Mariam and IM2 are on one end of that spectrum and the KKK and similar dying organizations are on the other. You all have more in common with each other than with mainstream American society.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Yes, I am making a point. White on White crime needs to be discussed more. Especially when it's on a large scale like the Russia/Ukraine issue.

Whites don't blame white on white crime on anything except the greed and general evil of white criminals. people like you blame black on black crime on evil whites. That's the difference.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Racism and White Supremacy do still exist. Your self imposed blinders prevent you from seeing it.

Racism and black supremacy still exist, and you are a perfect example of that. For what it's worth, in my opinion, black racism and black supremacy are a growing problem.

 

[Lisa558]

Whites don't blame white on white crime on anything except the greed and general evil of white criminals. people like you blame black on black crime on evil whites. That's the difference.

And that is a difference that posters like Vine and some others don’t get. When I brought up that blacks in poverty are in that position because of their own life choices, just as whites are - and not racism - she called me a racist because I was focusing on blacks. The difference is that whites are not blaming their poverty on racism.

On a side note, this new pattern of screeching “White Supremacist!!” at every white person who disagrees with the leftist agenda of applying different standards to people based on race - our former governor suggested a higher pay scale for black teachers, someplace in California is suggesting a higher grade for blacks whose work is equivalent to whites, etc., - really needs to stop.

 

[Persuader]

Nothing racist about pointing out the bad behavior of the black subclass. Are we not allowed to criticize ANYTHING criminals do if they’re black?

You keep screaming racism and ignore the very behavior among the black subclass that is leading to negative attitudes. The fact is that 13% of the population is committing more than half the violent crime, and stating so is not racist.

It is actually worse than that....almost all black violent crimes like rape and murdeer are committd by young black males who compose only approx. 2.5 percent of the total pop.

Aka...2.5% of the total pop. committs over half of all violent crimes in America.....those in power do not want to hear that and if they do....they ignore it.