Racism isnt the problem holding blacks back

I've been following this particular issue for some time now and the correct assessment, aside from the loony Leftists like IQ2, Shitlips, etc. is that fatherless homes and increased illegitimacy rates are the leading factors here, but this also goes across all racial boundaries as I have seen whites in the same mess. Having said that, it should also be noted that prominent blacks who dare speak out about urban "hood" culture are branded as sellouts, race traitors, Uncle Toms/Aunt Jemimahs, etc. I remember some, including Denzel Washington (I think) speak out about this and they were pilloried by the very people they are pleading to.
The problem with you following it is the fact that I live as a black person, and your following it is not living it. It's really time whites shut up with their opinion unless that opinion can quantify the economic impact of lost income, and government polices that provided whites with economic assistance while denying blacks the same.

Whenever a white --- starts talking about what LBJ did, he shows just how much he doesn't know. And the sme thing goes for dumb right wing blacks who pander to white racists for approval.

All rise.

Tonights lesson:

White ---- need to STFU thinking their feelings can be used as facts.

So we see the standard idiocy here but LBJ and more idiocy cosigning it.

First off, it was a black woman that ended the man in the house welfare rule created by conservatives in the 1960's.

"Under the man-in-the-house rule, a child who otherwise qualified for welfare benefits was denied those benefits if the child's mother was living with, or having relations with, any single or married able-bodied male. The man was considered a substitute father, even if the man was not supporting the child.

Before 1968 administrative agencies in many states created and enforced the man-in-the-house rule. In 1968 the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the regulation as being contrary to the legislative goals of the Aid to Families of Dependent Children (AFDC) program."



The case ws King vs. Smith.

King vs. Smith was a Supreme Court decision that said Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) could not be withheld because of the presence of a "substitute father" who visited a family on weekends. This was a unanimus decisin made in 1968.

The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. White racism creates unemployed or underemployed black men who can't provide for their families.

White racism has resulted in the overincarceration of black men, and based on the percentage of exonerations, a whole lot of innocent black men sit in prison today instead of at home with their families.

Race and Wrongful Convictions in the United States 2022

Black people are 13.6% of the American population but 53% of the 3,200 exonerations listed in the National Registry of Exonerations. Judging from exonerations, innocent Black Americans are seven times more likely than white Americans to be falsely convicted of serious crimes.


Now I really think the white individual who started this thread and has created this garbage in many other threads needs to stop. Because:

The assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act passed by FDR provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children and no daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Aid to Dependent Children functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states with mothers’ aid laws that began in 1910.

The ADC plan was written by two ladies who had been former directors of what was at the time called the U.S. Children’s Bureau. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers had no support from a husband no matter how they got into that position. From the Children’s Bureau in 1910 until 1965, no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and created the disintegration of the white family. I read no lectures about the irresponsible white father. The program was not denigrated as something creating dependence on government; it was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children.

The Social Security Act of 1935, https://www.ssa.gov/history/35act.html

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Linda Gordon and Felice Batlan, The Legal History of the Aid to Dependent Children Program, Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

So again what we see here is the governments willingness to subsidize whites in order to help them survive while denying blacks the same chance, then once they do suddenly there hasy to be extra rules or that somehow the program is wrong. This is white racism and it has been a consistent problem for us a blacks folks and no white man can sit on his rear end behind a computer and think he can declre thatracismis nt the probem and therefore it is so. Nor can the same whites use utterances from bootlicking blacks thinking that vaidates their belief.

“As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past.”
-Walter Williams

In 1939, during this time of great black two-parent families, the poverty rate for employed married black couples was 89 percent. In 1959, the poverty rate for that same couple was 54.9 percent. These sky-high rates of poverty occurred during the time “conservatives” rant about. Today due to the “ liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare,” black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and less than one-third of what it was in those imaginary grand old glorious days of the two-parent black family.

Again, the unwed single mom and absent black father are not the root cause of problems in black communities.

Walter Williams, How Important Is Today’s Racial Discrimination?, Aug 14, 2019, Articles by Walter E. Williams /2019/08/14/how-important-is-todays-racial-discrimination-n2551543

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, pg.596 (1987)

U.S. Department of the Census, Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, Historical Poverty Tables: People and Families - 1959 to 2023

Here endeth the lesson.
 
Its single mothers who dont marry and the men who feel they dont have to be fathers. Single mothers are the main cause of poverty and crime.

Welfare destroyed the father in the black family by paying women more for every baby they have and stopping the payments if they married. Fathers were replaced by the state. We can thank democrats for this disaster.
Crime and murder in black culture is more than the entire country's and democrats cover it up. They just dont care. Murder is the leading cause of death among blacks. They are the second poorest group in America.
Blacks in the 50s and 60s were making great strides until the Democrat Great Society stopped them dead in their tracks.

So do they vote for democrats
Single parent households in low-income areas are one problem but so too is the inner-city negative culture that was developed and worse schools.
 
I always put Blacks being 'held back' to the decades of legislated discrimination that prevented them from amassing generational wealth whilst effectively confining them to inner cities.

Especially in a country that measures freedom by bank balance.
 
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The problem with you following it is the fact that I live as a black person, and your following it is not living it. It's really time whites shut up with their opinion unless that opinion can quantify the economic impact of lost income, and government polices that provided whites with economic assistance while denying blacks the same.

Whenever a white --- starts talking about what LBJ did, he shows just how much he doesn't know. And the sme thing goes for dumb right wing blacks who pander to white racists for approval.

All rise.

Tonights lesson:

White ---- need to STFU thinking their feelings can be used as facts.

So we see the standard idiocy here but LBJ and more idiocy cosigning it.

First off, it was a black woman that ended the man in the house welfare rule created by conservatives in the 1960's.

"Under the man-in-the-house rule, a child who otherwise qualified for welfare benefits was denied those benefits if the child's mother was living with, or having relations with, any single or married able-bodied male. The man was considered a substitute father, even if the man was not supporting the child.

Before 1968 administrative agencies in many states created and enforced the man-in-the-house rule. In 1968 the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the regulation as being contrary to the legislative goals of the Aid to Families of Dependent Children (AFDC) program."



The case ws King vs. Smith.

King vs. Smith was a Supreme Court decision that said Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) could not be withheld because of the presence of a "substitute father" who visited a family on weekends. This was a unanimus decisin made in 1968.

The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. White racism creates unemployed or underemployed black men who can't provide for their families.

White racism has resulted in the overincarceration of black men, and based on the percentage of exonerations, a whole lot of innocent black men sit in prison today instead of at home with their families.

Race and Wrongful Convictions in the United States 2022

Black people are 13.6% of the American population but 53% of the 3,200 exonerations listed in the National Registry of Exonerations. Judging from exonerations, innocent Black Americans are seven times more likely than white Americans to be falsely convicted of serious crimes.


Now I really think the white individual who started this thread and has created this garbage in many other threads needs to stop. Because:

The assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act passed by FDR provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children and no daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Aid to Dependent Children functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states with mothers’ aid laws that began in 1910.

The ADC plan was written by two ladies who had been former directors of what was at the time called the U.S. Children’s Bureau. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers had no support from a husband no matter how they got into that position. From the Children’s Bureau in 1910 until 1965, no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and created the disintegration of the white family. I read no lectures about the irresponsible white father. The program was not denigrated as something creating dependence on government; it was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children.

The Social Security Act of 1935, https://www.ssa.gov/history/35act.html

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Linda Gordon and Felice Batlan, The Legal History of the Aid to Dependent Children Program, Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

So again what we see here is the governments willingness to subsidize whites in order to help them survive while denying blacks the same chance, then once they do suddenly there hasy to be extra rules or that somehow the program is wrong. This is white racism and it has been a consistent problem for us a blacks folks and no white man can sit on his rear end behind a computer and think he can declre thatracismis nt the probem and therefore it is so. Nor can the same whites use utterances from bootlicking blacks thinking that vaidates their belief.

“As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past.”
-Walter Williams

In 1939, during this time of great black two-parent families, the poverty rate for employed married black couples was 89 percent. In 1959, the poverty rate for that same couple was 54.9 percent. These sky-high rates of poverty occurred during the time “conservatives” rant about. Today due to the “ liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare,” black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and less than one-third of what it was in those imaginary grand old glorious days of the two-parent black family.

Again, the unwed single mom and absent black father are not the root cause of problems in black communities.

Walter Williams, How Important Is Today’s Racial Discrimination?, Aug 14, 2019, Articles by Walter E. Williams /2019/08/14/how-important-is-todays-racial-discrimination-n2551543

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, pg.596 (1987)

U.S. Department of the Census, Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, Historical Poverty Tables: People and Families - 1959 to 2023

Here endeth the lesson.
Great lesson

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Its single mothers who dont marry and the men who feel they dont have to be fathers. Single mothers are the main cause of poverty and crime.

Welfare destroyed the father in the black family by paying women more for every baby they have and stopping the payments if they married. Fathers were replaced by the state. We can thank democrats for this disaster.
Crime and murder in black culture is more than the entire country's and democrats cover it up. They just dont care. Murder is the leading cause of death among blacks. They are the second poorest group in America.
Blacks in the 50s and 60s were making great strides until the Democrat Great Society stopped them dead in their tracks.

So do they vote for democrats

So why are there so many single mothers?
 
Another white, privileged Marxist enters the chat to shift the blame to a political party he opposes.

Renounce your white liberal privilege, or continue being a racist.
White privileged liberals and the black community itself are responsible for holding the black community back and have been since the 60's. But they cannot accept responsibility for their actions, so it's all Trump's fault.
 
White privileged liberals and the black community itself are responsible for holding the black community back and have been since the 60's. But they cannot accept responsibility for their actions, so it's all Trump's fault.

Nonsense.

Racism existed.

After slavery was abolished some people in positions of power, especially in the Deep South, but even in the north and elsewhere, tried to stop black people from progressing. We know it happened.

We can see in Detroit that black people got jobs, but were never allowed to get the good jobs.

They were put in areas where poor people were and education was poor and opportunities were difficult.
 
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So why are there so many single mothers?
So many black single mothers whose children create 53% of all murder. The cause is the Welfare state passed under Johnson by democrats. Single mothers got paid more for every child and if they married the payments stopped. Democrats subsidized single mothers an advocate these broken families even today. A male child raised without a father doesnt now how to be husband and increases crime. The lack of a father creates a thug culture of violent male gangs
 
Single parent households in low-income areas are one problem but so too is the inner-city negative culture that was developed and worse schools.
Single mothers are also the cause of low income and poverty
 
So many black single mothers whose children create 53% of all murder. The cause is the Welfare state passed under Johnson by democrats. Single mothers got paid more for every child and if they married the payments stopped. Democrats subsidized single mothers an advocate these broken families even today. A male child raised without a father doesnt now how to be husband and increases crime. The lack of a father creates a thug culture of violent male gangs

Well, there are certain things we know are more likely to create problematic adults or teenagers.

Being brought up by a single parent is going to cause stress on parenting. Being brought up by a mother working three jobs and never having time to see their kid is going to make that worse. But that's what a lot of poor people end up going through.

The gangs step in, because there are male role models for kids.

The welfare system probably didn't help, but it wasn't the cause of the problem. People could have lived together and not been married and still got the payments, but if you make society break down, it's very difficult to build it back up again.

If you're a single parent and you have a kid and that's all they know, what kind of a parent are they most likely to be? The US has had generation after generation reinforcing this, and the politicians sit back and don't do anything about it.

Then they blame the poor people for making it happen.

We know how we could change this

Look at London. After 18 years of the Tories up to 1997 Labour were elected. They reduced crime, they increased after school programs, they got kids off the streets, they improved education, they made things happen. Then the Tories got back in in 2010 and destroyed it all again and crime is taking off in the UK again, and the breakdown of the family is happening again.
 
Well, there are certain things we know are more likely to create problematic adults or teenagers.

Being brought up by a single parent is going to cause stress on parenting. Being brought up by a mother working three jobs and never having time to see their kid is going to make that worse. But that's what a lot of poor people end up going through.

The gangs step in, because there are male role models for kids.

The welfare system probably didn't help, but it wasn't the cause of the problem. People could have lived together and not been married and still got the payments, but if you make society break down, it's very difficult to build it back up again.

If you're a single parent and you have a kid and that's all they know, what kind of a parent are they most likely to be? The US has had generation after generation reinforcing this, and the politicians sit back and don't do anything about it.

Then they blame the poor people for making it happen.

We know how we could change this

Look at London. After 18 years of the Tories up to 1997 Labour were elected. They reduced crime, they increased after school programs, they got kids off the streets, they improved education, they made things happen. Then the Tories got back in in 2010 and destroyed it all again and crime is taking off in the UK again, and the breakdown of the family is happening again.
The lack of a father who is the moral example in the family increases may problems in male.. I cited the research and as family therapist I can confirm this.
During the 50s and 60s blacks made great and strides had intact families and low crime. The Great Society stopped that dead in its tracks. Thats the key that created the problems we see today. They dont live together unmarried. The choice is not to marry and keep the benefits coming.
Well, there are certain things we know are more likely to create problematic adults or teenagers.

Being brought up by a single parent is going to cause stress on parenting. Being brought up by a mother working three jobs and never having time to see their kid is going to make that worse. But that's what a lot of poor people end up going through.

The gangs step in, because there are male role models for kids.

The welfare system probably didn't help, but it wasn't the cause of the problem. People could have lived together and not been married and still got the payments, but if you make society break down, it's very difficult to build it back up again.

If you're a single parent and you have a kid and that's all they know, what kind of a parent are they most likely to be? The US has had generation after generation reinforcing this, and the politicians sit back and don't do anything about it.

Then they blame the poor people for making it happen.

We know how we could change this

Look at London. After 18 years of the Tories up to 1997 Labour were elected. They reduced crime, they increased after school programs, they got kids off the streets, they improved education, they made things happen. Then the Tories got back in in 2010 and destroyed it all again and crime is taking off in the UK again, and the breakdown of the family is happenin

Well, there are certain things we know are more likely to create problematic adults or teenagers.

Being brought up by a single parent is going to cause stress on parenting. Being brought up by a mother working three jobs and never having time to see their kid is going to make that worse. But that's what a lot of poor people end up going through.

The gangs step in, because there are male role models for kids.

The welfare system probably didn't help, but it wasn't the cause of the problem. People could have lived together and not been married and still got the payments, but if you make society break down, it's very difficult to build it back up again.

If you're a single parent and you have a kid and that's all they know, what kind of a parent are they most likely to be? The US has had generation after generation reinforcing this, and the politicians sit back and don't do anything about it.

Then they blame the poor people for making it happen.

We know how we could change this

Look at London. After 18 years of the Tories up to 1997 Labour were elected. They reduced crime, they increased after school programs, they got kids off the streets, they improved education, they made things happen. Then the Tories got back in in 2010 and destroyed it all again and crime is taking off in the UK again, and the breakdown of the family is happening again.
You crime problem is caused by immigration. Americas crime problem is caused by democrats crime and social policies and the open border. The left loves criminals and dont care about victims
 

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LBJ was the ultimate "Systemic Racist". He used the power of the government to control the Black population and harvest their votes. Even he would be amazed at how successful his efforts were.
Not really. He called it!
"We'll have those ******* voting Democrat for 200 years".
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The New York Times did a thorough report on a Harvard/Stanford study on racism's impact on black Americans and boys in particular that is worth a read unless you are just going to hold on to your racist assumptions instead of being willing to learn. The Visualization charts are brilliant.


The study, based on anonymous earnings and demographic data for virtually all Americans now in their late 30s, debunks a number of other widely held hypotheses about income inequality. Gaps persisted even when black and white boys grew up in families with the same income, similar family structures, similar education levels and even similar levels of accumulated wealth.

The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research.

If this inequality can’t be explained by individual or household traits, much of what matters probably lies outside the home — in surrounding neighborhoods, in the economy and in a society that views black boys differently from white boys, and even from black girls.

“One of the most popular liberal post-racial ideas is the idea that the fundamental problem is class and not race, and clearly this study explodes that idea,” said Ibram Kendi, a professor and director of the Antiracist Research and Policy Center at American University. “But for whatever reason, we’re unwilling to stare racism in the face.”
 
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The lack of a father who is the moral example in the family increases may problems in male.. I cited the research and as family therapist I can confirm this.
During the 50s and 60s blacks made great and strides had intact families and low crime. The Great Society stopped that dead in its tracks. Thats the key that created the problems we see today. They dont live together unmarried. The choice is not to marry and keep the benefits coming.



You crime problem is caused by immigration. Americas crime problem is caused by democrats crime and social policies and the open border. The left loves criminals and dont care about victims

Thing is that welfare exists in other countries and they're not as messed up as the US. The US is messed up for a reason.
 
Thing is that welfare exists in other countries and they're not as messed up as the US. The US is messed up for a reason.
The issue is crime single mothers and black culture caused by democrat policies. It makes no difference what happens in other countries.
 
Zero intellectual curiosity from the right on anything. They literally just shoot from their racist hip.
 
Its single mothers who dont marry and the men who feel they dont have to be fathers. Single mothers are the main cause of poverty and crime.

Welfare destroyed the father in the black family by paying women more for every baby they have and stopping the payments if they married. Fathers were replaced by the state. We can thank democrats for this disaster.
Crime and murder in black culture is more than the entire country's and democrats cover it up. They just dont care. Murder is the leading cause of death among blacks. They are the second poorest group in America.
Blacks in the 50s and 60s were making great strides until the Democrat Great Society stopped them dead in their tracks.

So do they vote for democrats

Black illegitimacy is 70% or better. You can’t have a civilized neighborhood with that going on.
 
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