Immanuel
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Immie
But you aren't taking capital out of the system and it is capital that creates jobs. This is the same argument the left used against free trade and it was a fallacy then and a fallacy now.
But, if you eliminate the company, you eliminate the capital. Those companies will disappear.
The competition is in the fact that if I (employer generally) don't like the services/costs offered by United Healthcare I can take my business to AETNA. Two years ago my employer had United Healthcare as its provider. Last year, AETNA offered us a better deal with rates and deductibles so we switched to AETNA. This year, United came back with competitive rates and now I am back with United. Next year? Will my employer have such a choice?
Not sure what you mean here. It is always, no matter what industry we are speaking of, the provider that determines the price. It is the purchaser that decides whether or not he/she is willing to pay that price. When I go to the store tomorrow for bread, the price is already set. I can pay that price or I can go down the street and see if the next store has a better price. I can't go into the first store and say, "Your bread is over priced and sliced to thick. I'll give you $0.50 for a loaf." I have to pay the price the store is asking or go without.
So, I'm not sure what you mean here.
Immie
True, if that is indeed what HR3200 does. Where does it say that though? Do you have a page number?
No page number and I have not read it in a while, but I think... think mind you, can't swear to it, that it was section 102.
Although, Plymco_Pilgrim was keeping a good watch on that bill. Betcha he can tell you exactly how many sentences down from the first page it is. Okay, maybe not sentences, but lines?
Immie
The question should be why would employers want to deal with this year after year? How did healthcare get so tied up with employment? I would think the employers would welcome the opportunity to be able to get out of healthcare problems and run their companies. It would be a boon to them and they could put more of their money into their business, rather than employee healthcare.
Except that they are not being given a way out. In fact, those who have now either chosen or been forced to drop their employee's coverage will be forced to either pick it up again or pay a fine aka tax, for not providing coverage.
I stated earlier that my employer cannot afford it, yet, he continues to insist that his company provides it to the employees. Many companies simply cannot afford it and have been forced out of the market to the detriment of the employees and every year more and more companies or being forced out.
Now, companies are going to be required to cover their employees or be taxed 8% of their payroll? Ouch! Small business is going to get creamed.
Immie