Question for Left-Leaning Individuals: Democrats, Socialists, Liberals, Marxists, Communists, Big-Government, One-Worlders, Etc.

[martybegan]

The one very bad example you guys always use for this one is that we don't know a man is a man. You're such idiots.

It's actually a perfect example.

Substituting a collective false "reality" for actual reality.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I just did. Nothing on this "list" can be listed as an accomplishment.

Just some campaign staffer's wet dream.
Move along.

/——-/ Your opinion is not proof of anything other than your own opinion. Did you learn debating 101 in High School?

 

[Laslow]

I believe unions are important to having a middle class. Republicans are anti union.

I believe we need to go Green

I like pro choice

Democrats are more the party that looks out for labor. Republicans say uneducated blue collar whites are only worth $15 hr. Can't live on that.

Democrats properly regulate industry. Look how they lowered drug prices. You're welcome.

Infrastructure spendng

They support/defend social security and medicare.

Boy did Trump prove Thom Hartmann right

"You Can't Govern if You Don't Believe in Government"

In a May 25, 2001 interview, Grover Norquist told National Public Radio's Mara Liasson, "I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub." Norquist got his wish.

www.thomhartmann.com

I respect an honest answer to the question. I worry the green movement is a money siphoning scheme. I'd love for things to be pro environment, but I don't think that is what is really going on right now. Especially the EV car stuff. Creating the batteries is probably worse than just burning petrol. I'm also not so sure I support government fixing wages, though I will admit none of the doomsday things promised happened when Wal Mart went to 15 per hour. Infrastructure is just a code word for pork projects and slush funds. Republicans are big spenders now, and would never touch SS or medicaid.

It seems like you believe democrats still care about little people, and I'm not sure that has been true for some time. Current big spending republicans are about the same as classic democrats. Nobody cares about working people, but at least republicans aren't censoring, and using identity horsecrap. I also worry about the support of terrorists, crime in cities, and mandates and other uses of government force.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

After years of debating lefties, I still don't really know what motivates them to reach their conclusions. I feel that it's more their hatred for the right than it is a love for anything on the left. But I'm legitimately curious.

Game of Thrones

Lefty loves the feeling of absolute power, enhanced by illusions of moral superiority.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That question can always go two ways. I think the inventions of the free market have been super beneficial to society, in general. Automobiles, Computers, Architecture, Crop Production, etc. I think lowering taxes gives the working class more buying power: Homes, Cars, Food, Utilities, etc.

But I'd really like to see you provide a list of Liberal policies that you believe would benefit the populace, as a whole.

Saying That the Rich Create Jobs Is Like Saying That Vampires Create Blood

Practical scientists created all of America's wealth; Investor Supremacy is sucking it dry.

 

[Thinker101]

Because conservative policies, 1) Don't work (no success stories for over 4 decades), 2) Don't "conserve" anything. Not money. Not the environment. Not congenial relations between Americans.

Great, so you feel Conservatives need to "conserve" because it's part of their name. Well then, Democrats must be busy with "demo" on the economy and the whole fricken country...dumbass.

 

[Laslow]

How detailed do I need to go?

I don't believe in trickle down.

Here's the deal man. Get this through your skull. There will always be government intervention in the marketplace. All countries are run by governments and corporations have to abide by those countries regulations. This is good. The government should side with We The People. But Republicans don't side with the people. They always side with the rich.

And now we see why. We see Harlan Crow showering Clarence Thomas with gifts. And Clarence rules in favor of the rich and corporations every time.

Liberal judges are a great example of judges that rule in favor of We the People. Not Big Money Special Interests.

Liberals didn't pass Citizens United.

If you don't see the clear differences between the GOP and Democrats and if you don't favor the Democrats, you're either a rich son of a bitch or racist one. White racist. Of the poor and middle class Republicans are uneducated whites. That's Trump's base. Then there are the rich Republicans or RINO's who've always run your party until Trump.

BTW, Trump is a globalist deep state rino too. If they would have him. But he's uncooth.

Isn't trickle down just the nature of economic growth? I'm not sure I understand the supposed slander of this term. Wealth creates jobs, period. That is just how it works. You can try to force companies to be fair, but saying money doesn't flow from top down is bizaar. Republicans are supposed to side with working people, but that isn't true anymore. If siding with the people is direct tax money to people with no labor, that is a problem. We have people waiting in line for food now, and more people than ever get government assistance along with their jobs. I believe you started a thread on the alarming amount of people on government support.

 

[Laslow]

I am puzzled by the left's desire for the rich to do more. They hate business and corporations, and they say rich people need to do more, but this doesn't make much sense considering rich people pay most of all income taxes and businesses provide work and paychecks. I wonder if you guys could clarify exactly what it is you want the rich to do.

 

[jbander]

This is a legitimate question for anyone who considers himself/herself a "left-leaning" person.

I realize that not all left-leaning folks agree with each other on all issues. Same is true of Conservatives (although I believe that we're more willing to voice our disagreements than lefties are). But generally speaking, what is it about the left's ideology or philosophy that appeals to you the most? List a few things that you truly believe the left has right as opposed to the counterpoints offered by the right.

What a fricken idiot.

 

[Laslow]

What a fricken idiot.

What a gem of insight.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I respect an honest answer to the question. I worry the green movement is a money siphoning scheme. I'd love for things to be pro environment, but I don't think that is what is really going on right now. Especially the EV car stuff. Creating the batteries is probably worse than just burning petrol. I'm also not so sure I support government fixing wages, though I will admit none of the doomsday things promised happened when Wal Mart went to 15 per hour. Infrastructure is just a code word for pork projects and slush funds. Republicans are big spenders now, and would never touch SS or medicaid.

It seems like you believe democrats still care about little people, and I'm not sure that has been true for some time. Current big spending republicans are about the same as classic democrats. Nobody cares about working people, but at least republicans aren't censoring, and using identity horsecrap. I also worry about the support of terrorists, crime in cities, and mandates and other uses of government force.

/——/ GM is cutting production of EVs because nobody wants them.

 

[Lesh]

Support for minorities
Support for women
Support for the poor
Support for LGBT folks
Support for the middle class
And understanding that education is important
That Global climate change is real and important
A belief in the mechanisms of democracy
A belief in institutions of America
REAL respect for the rule of law
Real respect for the military

And that’s just off the top of my head

 

[Laslow]

Support for minorities
Support for women
Support for the poor
Support for LGBT folks
Support for the middle class
And understanding that education is important
That Global climate change is real and important
A belief in the mechanisms of democracy
A belief in institutions of America
REAL respect for the rule of law
Real respect for the military

And that’s just off the top of my head

Don't you guys try to cut the military every chance you get?
Other than abortion, how would you support women?
What special needs do minorities have?
The left has never supported rule of law. Criminals are tearing up cities with reckless abandon.
Belief in the institutions of America? Don't you guys think the constitution can be interpreted in whatever way meets your political aims?

 

[Rawley]

Not congenial relations between Americans.

LOL But Biden the uniter has us all singing Kumbaya together.

Except, of course, when he's calling half of the country scumbags

 

[Lesh]

Don't you guys try to cut the military every chance you get?
Other than abortion, how would you support women?
What special needs do minorities have?
The left has never supported rule of law. Criminals are tearing up cities with reckless abandon.
Belief in the institutions of America? Don't you guys think the constitution can be interpreted in whatever way meets your political aims?

You asked… I told you

I don’t expect you to like it

 

[sparky]

But generally speaking, what is it about the left's ideology or philosophy that appeals to you the most?

Well first off, you probably are aware you're asking about the ideology of a moving target Jackson

For ex., if one labels left liberals , then Nixon (whom was never thought one in his tenure), was one by today's standards

Yes , i know perspective can be an exhausting venture.....

~S~

 

[MinTrut]

This is a legitimate question for anyone who considers himself/herself a "left-leaning" person.

I realize that not all left-leaning folks agree with each other on all issues. Same is true of Conservatives (although I believe that we're more willing to voice our disagreements than lefties are). But generally speaking, what is it about the left's ideology or philosophy that appeals to you the most? List a few things that you truly believe the left has right as opposed to the counterpoints offered by the right.

People on the left don't start bait threads with the purpose of demeaning others.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Support for minorities
Support for women
Support for the poor
Support for LGBT folks
Support for the middle class
And understanding that education is important
That Global climate change is real and important
A belief in the mechanisms of democracy
A belief in institutions of America
REAL respect for the rule of law
Real respect for the military

And that’s just off the top of my head

/——/. How is allowing biological men to compete in women’s sports, and allowing biological men to use the women’s locker room supporting women? You’re just spouting platitudes.

 

[ActionJackson]

People on the left don't start bait threads with the purpose of demeaning others.

Another non-answer. My responses have been cordial and on the level, unless and until others become hostile (which is usually the case with lefties).

 

[ActionJackson]

What a fricken idiot.

^^ From someone too stupid to offer a legitimate response. Par for the course. ^^